Autopsy Round 21, 2024 : Hawks snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[Holy Rioli]

Lol I can see bummers somehow winning their last 3 to deny us even if we get ahead of Carlton somehow.

It's something like 200 points we need to make up on Carlton. Given they play eagles...we need to pump them by 60+ to have a chance....those r v long odds.

Our best bet was always getting ahead of giants given their draw but that ain't happening now.

we beat them by 55 and we move past them...then we get North and Richmond.

 

[Brownbird]

No doubt. Win that game and we were playing finals. It's still possible, depending on other results now, but we threw away an almost guaranteed finals berth. It was a very consequential and painful loss.

he did admit that both players AND COACHEs need to keep playing the team's way for 4 quarters ..... bit of an admission that going defensive etc ( and possibly taking Calsher off etc) early in the last was not it. Bit late now though, unfortunately.

 

[VernonSpots]

we beat them by 55 and we move past them...then we get North and Richmond.

Fair enuf, my math was wrong. Agree if we beat blues by 10 goals then we have a real shot to go past them. That is a big ask tho...beating them is the goal and score a bonus. We now also need Essendon to drop a game from here, which is still an ask as they will absolutely bank the Sums game at home who are a rabble.

 

[grumbleguts]

I've seen everything. One numpty on facebook is blaming Watson wearing different coloured shoes. "If I were coach, I would have sent him back to the change rooms"

 

[Flukey!]

Sorry if this is elsewhere in the thread



We got beaten by a better side according to Sam.

 

[Maybloomer]

I've seen everything. One numpty on facebook is blaming Watson wearing different coloured shoes. "If I were coach, I would have sent him back to the change rooms"

Tell the numpty that if he went back to the changeroom and changed, he'd still have odd coloured shoes on.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I've seen everything. One numpty on facebook is blaming Watson wearing different coloured shoes. "If I were coach, I would have sent him back to the change rooms"

It's like those that say the goal celebrations are a sign the players got too far ahead of themselves.

There wasn't a single wild goal celebration yesterday. The team knows when to put the head down.

 

[Hawkthorn33]

Yeah ruined my Sunday and was restless over night. Hate to think how the players feel. Will be better tomorrow. Haha.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one that's a little too invested in our Hawks. Still a great season of development whatever happens from here

 

[Hawksboy72]

You gotta ask when does CJ get dropped and what does he do? We have so many other great players in the waiting.

If we get either of Barrass or Battle..you'd think Weddle goes to a wing and with Mass on the other wing CJ maybe lost.

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[Dewyyyyy]

You must be new to this forum because I have expressed my concerns about Ward quite few times, not just yesterday. You seriously telling me to calm down? Did actually read my post? Evidently not

You seem reactionary. I haven’t seen your other posts about him no. But guessing that he isn’t good enough is pretty uneducated. Did you have the same concerns after his first couple seasons or only when he stagnated a little this year? Or what about the good performance against Collingwood?

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

It's like those that say the goal celebrations are a sign the players got too far ahead of themselves.

There wasn't a single wild goal celebration yesterday. The team knows when to put the head down.

I wonder if the cart was put before the horse. Perhaps a pre-emptive "you've had your fun, now it's time to be serious". We looked very 'flat' even in the 2nd when we started to get on top our play was restrained and methodical.

 

[DogDaySonny]

I wonder if the cart was put before the horse. Perhaps a pre-emptive "you've had your fun, now it's time to be serious". We looked very 'flat' even in the 2nd when we started to get on top our play was restrained and methodical.

Given the commentary team were watching the TV just like us, who knows what was happening off camera?

 

[Mopar Jason]

Coaches Votes
10 Jesse Hogan

23

Jesse Hogan

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

(GWS)
6 Lachie Whitfield

6

Lachie Whitfield

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.3

5star

M

6.3

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

411.8

5star

D

21.4

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

8.9

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.8

3star

MG

350.6

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

(GWS)
6 Jai Newcombe (HAW)
5 Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

25

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

(GWS)
2 Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

(GWS)
1 Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

(HAW)

 

[Lickmesocks]

I wonder if the cart was put before the horse. Perhaps a pre-emptive "you've had your fun, now it's time to be serious". We looked very 'flat' even in the 2nd when we started to get on top our play was restrained and methodical.

I noticed the Giants players after the game taking the pi55 out of our guys pretending to pose for pics and doing fake hand shakes and all laughing pretty hard.

Perhaps we have been told to drop the theatrics a bit?

 

[eldorado]

Perhaps we have been told to drop the theatrics a bit?

I wouldn't mind.

Pre-arranged 'trademark' celebrations are really utter wank.

 

[barbster]

I noticed the Giants players after the game taking the pi55 out of our guys pretending to pose for pics and doing fake hand shakes and all laughing pretty hard.

Perhaps we have been told to drop the theatrics a bit?

Let them enjoy their lucky 2 point win, it may be the last game they win this season. They have Bris, Freo and WB next three games.

 

[manB]

I still think its mistake to sub Dear. I understand, fatigue could be reason but he competes and does not allow intercept marks. Forward presence brings mosquito f leet in the game.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

I still think its mistake to sub Dear. I understand, fatigue could be reason but he competes and does not allow intercept marks. Forward presence brings mosquito f leet in the game.

Live and learn

 

[Blackhawk42]

Imagine if Bedford was still serving his suspension and Kingsley had let Buckley go to Paris to watch his Mrs compete...

Would have been a comfortable victory.

 

[peetoo]

I noticed the Giants players after the game taking the pi55 out of our guys pretending to pose for pics and doing fake hand shakes and all laughing pretty hard.

Perhaps we have been told to drop the theatrics a bit?

At least they’re not going the scratchy scratchy any more

 

[Blackhawk42]

Do the ladder predictor. It’s over.

It isn't. But we genuinely need some results to go our way for a change.

Port vs Freo and Dogs vs GWS are the results I have swinging everything.
Giants with some tough opponents on the run home.
Likewise Carlton.

 

[MistyAvalon]

so so sad...no more words

 

[TylerDurden]

Show this to the players. Let it burn.

 

[peetoo]

Show this to the players. Let it burn.

Funny how their win is ‘fantastic comeback’ and ours was ‘controversial win’. The wins were almost the same

 

[rjslcM]

Watch the play where Sicily got caught at the end. Tried to be the hero.
Jars was running past at full tilt. Give the handball and he either takes a flying shot or hits someone up.
Instead it was holding the ball.
Those kind of decisions need to burn.

I disagree, Jars also had someone right on his ass. Give the handball and he just as likely gets tackled. Sicily might have seen this and thought, ‘even if Impey is yelling at me that I’m hot, he is as well so there’s no point handballing it straight to someone who will likely be tackled, better that I try and shake my opponent and hit up someone else’

Hardwick did very well to take control of the ball in the moment just prior to that but if we’re talking about little decisions, then a better decision would have been to handball it to Cmac on his right rather than a long looping handball to Sicily where defenders could make up ground on him underneath it.