Autopsy Round 23, 2024: Hawks smack Tigers

[Sixpence]

I think the Hawks are starting tire.

Bit of an odd thing to say when we've just won 4 out of the last 5 games by over 60 points.

 

[flamin_heck]

I think the Hawks are starting tire. Bring in a few fresh legs (CJ,?) next week v North. The following break will be perfect timing. Then look out.

You may be proven to be right, id argue theres nothing to really base that opinion off though- we played a game against the bottom side and had it stitched up in the first quarter. Days injury in the players psyche reminding them that the prize wasn’t yesterday but in the weeks to come.

It actually reminded me of the Hawks circa 2015, kill the game early and coast. It’s what good teams do. They looked a little bored to me to be honest.

 

[Maybloomer]

You may be proven to be right, id argue theres nothing to really base that opinion off though- we played a game against the bottom side and had it stitched up in the first quarter. Days injury in the players psyche reminding them that the prize wasn’t yesterday but in the weeks to come.

It actually reminded me of the Hawks circa 2015, kill the game early and coast. It’s what good teams do. They looked a little bored to me to be honest.

It's more of a frustration than a concern but when the Hawks have their opponents on the ropes and are under no pressure, it's when the sloppiness steps in and Sicily is the main culprit but shots at goals suffer too. Around-the-corner kicks when they're not required.

It'll probably happen again next week but not in the big games, they won't have the time or freedom to be cute. Full credit to Sam and the team, they switched back on when it was needed.

 

[Brownbird]

You have nailed it and I agree. I can see us losing a final because of nerves in front of goal.

Ginni and Wizard have lost all confidence with a basic drop punt. You can see it in there faces when they have a shot from 40 directly in front. The wizard runs outside of gate 5 and back onto the ground before kicking it. Ginni has zero penetration in his drop punt. ( I can’t recall if it is his right or left knee that had a crack in it) but perhaps this is affecting his set shots.

They both would prefer to be kicking the ball around the corner and as we have seen with Mckay and Curnow in big games this falls apart under pressure.

i was more concerned that Cholly seems to have lost some confidence in his set shots on goal in the last few matches - he was passing off (not very well, either ) yesterday when he would have confidently nailed them back in the middle of the year. Hope the coaches compare videos of his technique and see what might have changed a few degrees or so in something he does.

 

[Newmo89]

Newmo89 got any intel on Day + Scrim outside of what the media already has already said that is? Oh FWIW you're our media

Scrimshaw with a dislocated left pinky from what I could gather in the rooms - he will be a test for this weekend, depending on scans. Day is a wait and see post scans - that it wasn't a break is a good sign, but damage to muscles can be just as nasty. Fingers are crossed that it will be a fortnight and he will be right to go in the finals.

 

[almuz]

Love beating Tigers - grubbiest team in the league by a mile. So many late tackles and spoils well after the ball is gone.

 

[hawkinoz]

To my eye it’s the one big thing I can see us getting rolled in a tight final- inefficiency in front of goal.. a lot of the younger guys (understandably) often don’t convert opportunities they probably should, I can totally envision playing Geelong and we kick 8.15 to their 10.5.. Cats generally make the very most of their opportunities in front of the sticks. Hawthorn have exceeded all expectations this year and it’s hard to be critical, especially being such a young team- would just love to see a few become dead eye in front of goal.

IMO guys like Watson & maybe even Gini should try to play on if situation supports even a little bit that going for set shots.

They should be awake to everyone stopping for set shots and take the play on. Even as a team we will score more goals when we take the game on as we have speed on our side.

In 4rth Qtr against both Blues and Tigers, if we had just kept pushing fwd, we would have scored another 5-6 goals. This stopping for set shots repeatedly habit seems to creep in when we are ahead by 30+ points.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

Scrimshaw with a dislocated left pinky from what I could gather in the rooms - he will be a test for this weekend, depending on scans. Day is a wait and see post scans - that it wasn't a break is a good sign, but damage to muscles can be just as nasty. Fingers are crossed that it will be a fortnight and he will be right to go in the finals.

Thanks

Is it true there was a bit of a flu bug going through the lads end of last week?

A couple didn't seem to cover the ground as well as normal

Nick Watson is why I ask - when a passage of play stopped, he was right in front of us.

He looked bloody awful tbh. White as a sheet, and had a few bags around the eyes. He went to the bench.

He looked fine a bit later - so maybe a couple of Panadol & Ibuprofen to get him through the game?

All the lads put in, but a couple looked just a little bit below their usual run & dash so I'd thought I'd ask.

Flu?

 

[Del225438]

Love beating Tigers - grubbiest team in the league by a mile. So many late tackles and spoils well after the ball is gone.

Love beating the Tiges too but I think most teams give as good they get in this regard.

 

[barbster]

Gunston back to his accurate best. Would be good to see the younger brigade follow suit. So many kickable goals being missed.

 

[hardway]

I have been saying it for a while but our biggest winning margins have been our least impressive performances. If and when we become a more clinical side the AFL will want a direct line to the umpire ear pieces. The competition is on Edge!

 

[HawkAbroad]

You may be proven to be right, id argue theres nothing to really base that opinion off though- we played a game against the bottom side and had it stitched up in the first quarter. Days injury in the players psyche reminding them that the prize wasn’t yesterday but in the weeks to come.

It actually reminded me of the Hawks circa 2015, kill the game early and coast. It’s what good teams do. They looked a little bored to me to be honest.

I see what The Gulden child sees. To me they've shown signs since the GWS game. Many of these kids have never had to run so much or play with this intensity over such a long period.
Watch the video from right after the siren, those guys weren't bored, they were disappointed and tired. They've been hustling hard for each other, and it's great to see, but I think the bye before finals could be very beneficial forbus.

 

[GinniWiz33]

THE WIZARD!!!!!!! WITH A PIECE OF MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gretaest Career Game) Go Hawks

 

[seysearles]

Is there any way we could start a petition to get Ginnivan back in the long sleeves? I wouldn’t mind one for Newc to grow his locks back either.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Is there any way we could start a petition to get Ginnivan back in the long sleeves? I wouldn’t mind one for Newc to grow his locks back either.

Neek just doesn't look right without his flowing locks

 

[Del225438]

Is there any way we could start a petition to get Ginnivan back in the long sleeves? I wouldn’t mind one for Newc to grow his locks back either.

None of that stuff matters one bit. Let's get four points this week

 

[seysearles]

Neek just doesn't look right without his flowing locks

It’s either locks or shaved head. That mushroom he has at the moment is not great.

 

[hawkman]

Love beating Tigers - grubbiest team in the league by a mile. So many late tackles and spoils well after the ball is gone.

Day got injured because Newcombe was shoved in the back and the umpire ignored it. Felt like the umps felt sorry for them after 1/4 time and allowed them to do whatever they wanted

 

[Sixpence]

Is there any way we could start a petition to get Ginnivan back in the long sleeves? I wouldn’t mind one for Newc to grow his locks back either.

Eh? Ginni played in long sleeves against the Tigers.

 

[GinniWiz33]

Eh? Ginni played in long sleeves against the Tigers.

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[GinniWiz33]

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Yes he did


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[CliffMcTainshaw]

he would have been the emergency at the G for the seniors game - BH game started at 2 - annoyingly.

What do you make of that, were we worried that at some time after 12:30 that one of our backmen was a chance to pull out before around 2:30?

 

[Changa10]

What do you make of that, were we worried that at some time after 12:30 that one of our backmen was a chance to pull out before around 2:30?

Wonder if Weddle was under a cloud? He didn't seem to do as much of his hard running, or did he have more of a shutdown role yesterday? Hard to tell on the TV.

 

[grumbleguts]

Odd game but we put it to bed early.

Newk brilliant, Massa & Amon just don’t miss targets.

Did I hear that in 2000 + games that was only our 6th or 7th time we have kicked 9 goals in the 1st qtr?

Our highest ever scoring 1st quarters.

13.3 - 81 vs North Melbourne in R16 on Sat 10-Jul-1982 2:10 PM

10.3 - 63 vs Sydney in R2 on Mon 01-Apr-1991 2:10 PM

10.3 - 63 vs Carlton in R8 on Sat 19-May-1984 2:10 PM

8.11 - 59 vs Adelaide in R16 on Sat 06-Jul-1991 2:10 PM

9.3 - 57 vs Richmond in R24 on Sun 18-Aug-2024 3:20 PM

8.9 - 57 vs North Melbourne in R13 on Sat 21-Jun-1986 2:10 PM

9.3 - 57 vs Richmond in R16 on Sat 13-Jul-1985 2:10 PM

8.9 - 57 vs Melbourne in R19 on Sat 09-Aug-1980 2:10 PM

9.3 - 57 vs Geelong in R3 on Sat 20-May-1944 2:45 PM

8.8 - 56 vs West Coast in R14 on Sat 08-Jul-1989 2:10 PM

9.2 - 56 vs Footscray in R9 on Sat 28-May-1988 2:10 PM

8.7 - 55 vs Essendon in R20 on Sat 01-Aug-1992 2:10 PM

8.7 - 55 vs North Melbourne in R22 on Sat 31-Aug-1985 2:10 PM

8.7 - 55 vs St Kilda in R2 on Sat 01-May-1937 2:45 PM

8.6 - 54 vs Adelaide in R21 on Sat 21-Aug-1993 2:08 PM

8.6 - 54 vs Geelong in R15 on Sat 15-Jul-1972 2:10 PM

8.5 - 53 vs Essendon in R18 on Fri 27-Jul-2012 7:50 PM

8.5 - 53 vs Essendon in R20 on Sat 19-Aug-2006 7:10 PM

8.5 - 53 vs St Kilda in R16 on Sat 09-Jul-1994 2:00 PM

8.5 - 53 vs South Melbourne in R3 on Sat 20-Apr-1974 2:00 PM

8.4 - 52 vs North Melbourne in R21 on Sat 13-Aug-2016 2:10 PM

8.4 - 52 vs Adelaide in SF on Fri 18-Sep-2015 7:50 PM

8.4 - 52 vs Kangaroos in R6 on Sat 04-May-2002 2:10 PM

8.4 - 52 vs Geelong in GF on Sat 30-Sep-1989 2:30 PM

8.4 - 52 vs West Coast in R8 on Sun 22-May-1988 12:10 PM

8.4 - 52 vs Essendon in R6 on Sat 03-May-1986 2:10 PM

8.3 - 51 vs Richmond in R5 on Sat 26-Apr-2003 2:10 PM

8.3 - 51 vs Melbourne in R17 on Sat 23-Jul-1988 2:10 PM

8.3 - 51 vs Essendon in R22 on Sat 02-Sep-1978 2:10 PM

8.3 - 51 vs North Melbourne in R17 on Sat 26-Aug-1944 2:45 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Collingwood in R10 on Sat 25-May-1991 2:10 PM

7.8 - 50 vs Sydney in R20 on Sun 19-Aug-1984 2:10 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Geelong in R22 on Sat 01-Sep-1984 2:10 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Richmond in R17 on Sat 23-Jul-1983 2:10 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Fitzroy in R20 on Sat 14-Aug-1976 2:10 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Footscray in R14 on Sat 01-Aug-1959 2:20 PM

8.2 - 50 vs Melbourne in R10 on Sat 27-Jun-1953 2:15 PM

 

[tommyk72]

What do you make of that, were we worried that at some time after 12:30 that one of our backmen was a chance to pull out before around 2:30?

I believe it’s standard procedure in case of injuries in the warm up.