Injury SACK DOCTORS 1 - CTE

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just got headbutted in a pub. They've given him the all clear. Typical.

Shouldn't all head knocks come under concussion as later in life CTE would occur?

Should've Murphy been sidelined for a week after getting a whack to the head from Rioli?

 

[JUSTWORK]

Jeremy Cameron just got headbutted in a pub. They've given him the all clear. Typical.

Shouldn't all head knocks come under concussion as later in life CTE would occur?

Should've Murphy been sidelined for a week after getting a whack to the head from Rioli?

Or a certain AFLW player after a recent boxing match and significant number of hits to the head.

 

[edgie]

We've had one of our own chief lovejoys downplay the probably bad concussion management at others clubs whilst getting their knickers so knotted over ours that they won't have to worry about reproducing, never mind the posters from away.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[Jimmy95]

Pair of crows ********s.

 

[sobrave]

Own the **** up, ignore the potshots from nuffies. Some of the concern would be genuine, some of it is just people being flogs. Either way it doesn't matter, bottom line is we need to sort our shit.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I mean, it's pretty unfair to say it's just us but we've clearly cooked it.

 

[Chizza12]

Own the * up, ignore the potshots from nuffies. Some of the concern would be genuine, some of it is just people being flogs. Either way it doesn't matter, bottom line is we need to sort our s**t.

Couldn't agree more, own it, accept the penalty and ensure we do better. Nothing else needs to be said.

 

[sobrave]

I mean, it's pretty unfair to say it's just us but we've clearly cooked it.

Over the past 5 odd years I've watched quite a lot of neutral games and I think we are the worst by far. For the most part in the last few years I've seen bad head knocks treated pretty seriously.
For us though, I've seen repeated occasions of a quick spell on the bench and back into it. Apparently we're not allowed to criticise the doctor though.

 

[OneGreatClub]

This could open up a lot more serious discussion about head knocks which is a good thing ( apart from those oppo support ers and commentators mainly having a go for just point scoring and not out of concern or even in good faith)

Sounds like doc made a really poor decision.

Also we see head hits regularly in AFL with players still playing on.
Maybe the rules do need to be further tightened as certainly these sort of repeated injuries can have serious implications for players going forward.
I think other clubs need to look in their own back yard as all clubs could learn something.

 

[PowerBaz]

Sack them all, well just the Doc, Ken and Davies and Kochie.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Over the past 5 odd years I've watched quite a lot of neutral games and I think we are the worst by far. For the most part in the last few years I've seen bad head knocks treated pretty seriously.
For us though, I've seen repeated occasions of a quick spell on the bench and back into it. Apparently we're not allowed to criticise the doctor though.

Listening to Koch's interview on AA, I'd say Dr Fisher has some deeply embedded bus tread marks on him now.

 

[theouthouse]

Biggest issue for the AFL is that clearly both players suffered pretty severe knocks, yet Lachie passed scat5 tests, and both did in the following days.

I have not heard of any MRI or any other scans being done to show up any bruising etc.

Perhaps the AFL could look to develop, in partnership with specialists, a more accurate test to determine brain injury quicker and more accurately.

 

[sobrave]

Listening to Koch's interview on AA, I'd say Dr Fisher has some deeply embedded bus tread marks on him now.

Imagine if he comes out and says pressure was put on him by members of the football department to get players back on the field

 

[Tim Chinever]

Imagine if he comes out and says pressure was put on him by members of the football department to get players back on the field

If that’s happened I hope he dumps on them big time! May be the only way we can get rid of Stinkley

 

[backtozero]

How many people are getting worked up over this because they think it will negatively affect Hinkley somehow?

Spoiler alert: it won't.

 

[Jimmy95]

I mean, it's pretty unfair to say it's just us but we've clearly cooked it.

Sprayed piss all over the concussion protocols?

 

[Macca19]

Over the past 5 odd years I've watched quite a lot of neutral games and I think we are the worst by far. For the most part in the last few years I've seen bad head knocks treated pretty seriously.
For us though, I've seen repeated occasions of a quick spell on the bench and back into it. Apparently we're not allowed to criticise the doctor though.

Whilst true, there seems to be a lot of “delayed onset concussions” creeping into the AFL

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Bombers taking no risks with defender's return from concussion

Essendon won't rush Jake Kelly back to the fold after being hit with delayed concussion after round eight

www.afl.com.au

AFL.com.au article about how Essendon are being really careful with Jake Kelly

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Jake Kelly

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's return after a hit in the game against Port caused a concussion... because he has a bad history with concussions since Dangerfield lined him up in 2021.

Match report from said game:

AFL - News, Fixtures, Scores & Results - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

www.afl.com.au

INJURIES
Port Adelaide: Jonas (chest soreness), Butters (right knee)
Essendon: Ridley (concussion)

No reported injury for Jake Kelly

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Jake Kelly

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29

Ht

190cm

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90kg

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14.5

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3.3

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2.6

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104.1

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14.8

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9.0

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6.0

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4.2

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107.0

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... So Kelly copped a blow to the head that caused a concussion without being removed from the game? Until the following Tuesday when "he's got a concussion".

And Port's getting trashed for the treatment of Jones?

 

[DaBarz]

If you don’t think this is a fair enough question then your bias is clouding your judgement on a situation that is cut and dried appalling.

 

[Grave Danger]

 

[DaBarz]

Over the past 5 odd years I've watched quite a lot of neutral games and I think we are the worst by far. For the most part in the last few years I've seen bad head knocks treated pretty seriously.
For us though, I've seen repeated occasions of a quick spell on the bench and back into it. Apparently we're not allowed to criticise the doctor though.

Goes way back to Brad Ebert

 

[sobrave]

 

[MrPlow]

Why do you think it's a ridiculous take given AFL is naturally a brutal contact sport?

It is brutal but that doesn’t mean we should have blatant disregard for players and their longevity. Especially given all the new research on head knocks and long term effects.

Particularly in Aliir’s case were they sent him back out without a test even when you can clearly see he goes limp. I’m not too phased with Jones if he was cleared after the protocol test.

On a side note, I have no idea how McCartin was allowed back in the AFL system. He is going to suffer a terrible life

 

[MrPlow]

It's a reasonable point poorly made.

Players are well compensated and provided broader life opportunities most people could only dream of. They go into the sport knowing that this is the case but also that it's a dangerous pursuit that could leave them with long term health issues. This has always been the case but it's only recently that brain injuries have become the biggest part of that discussion. Nat Fyfe recently said that he knows he's going to have all sorts of issues post football and that he's made a 'deal with the devil' but is at peace with it.

The real discussion is around what the AFL and clubs should be doing to mitigate the risks and minimise the inevitable long term damage from playing the sport.

I understand the merits in the ordinary course of playing and injuring themselves but not when a bloke’s been knocked unconscious.

Also we shouldn’t pretend a bung knee is comparable to brain damage.