List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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[AsterixTheGaul]

3 team trade, who says no?

WC give: 1
WC get: 2 and 6

NM give: 2 and 3
NM get: 1, 11, future 3rd (MEL)

MEL Give: 6 and 11, future 2nd
MEL get: 3, future 3rd (NM)

West Coast draft McKercher at 2, Curtin at 6

North give up 2 and 3 but draft Reid at 1, get 11 back - still maintain 15,17,18 - can move two of those picks to potentially move up to say Geelong’s pick 8 too

Melbourne move up to get their key target in Duursma

We say no.

IF and a big IF Norf offer 2 and 3 for 1, that is all Norf get back.

I would then trade directly with Melbourne with pick 2 for picks 6, 11 and F2

Melbourne take Duursma at 2, we take McKercher at 3, I expect Curtin slides to 6 because I suspect Hawks, Dogs and GWS do not need so he is still there at 6 for us.

We go for Murphy or Wilson at 11 (or pick your favourite in that bunch).

We turn Reid into McKercher, Curtin, Murphy and a F2 tied to Dees.
That is a lot but there again we hold the golden ticket.

I think Norf will feel fleeced but they still go to the draft with 1 (Reid) and 15, 17 and 18 which must be very valuable as they offered them to us!!

Melbourne I think say yes as they get quality and they get ahead of Hawks and Dogs who are reportedly after Duursma and Watson. If Dogs miss out on both Duursma and Watson, then they likely go Sanders at 5.

 

[Free Agent]

My birthday is November 10. Just so happens the last day of trade draft picks is November 10th.

I swear if pieman f**ks up my birthday I'm going be pissed. I mean I will be literally pissed. I'm going to get really drunk

And also I will be angry too lol

 

[kirbonavich]

Exactly this and not counting games players off injuried. Harley missed a couple. The list is pointless as an indicator. The players that played all games in under 18 injury free obviously will have higher stats.

Performance in VFL games mean way more

It's averaged over games played, so the data is relative.

 

[ZergMinion]

Can you guys seriously cut this 2 and 3 crap out? Double so for 2, 3 and anything else. Put it in the ******* bin.

It’s laughable any of you think that’s going to happen.
North aren’t going to tank their hand for Reid. Yes we can get 2. Yes there’ll be something else. Possibly another something else. Possibly not.

If you honestly think the proposed trade quoted is a remote possibility then kindly delete your BigFooty account. You’re making the rest of us look moronic for bandying that around.

My stance would be 2 and two later first rounds, whatever that looks like. Maybe we send our second rounder back. Maybe not.

The echo chamber some of you have created here needs to be addressed for what it is. Fantasy.

You’re entitled to an opinion, ya boy Mop can’t deny you that, but I’ll call you a muppet for it.

Points wise that's only the equivalent of a free pick 6 so I think you've lost the plot if you think that's completely ridiculous for Harley Reid.

Sure, North won't do it, but as a minimum requirement for posters here to ask for if we end up shipping pick 1 it's not that unreasonable.

If you then factor in all the freebie picks North got (including 3 for McKay), I think you're just having an old man yells at cloud moment.

 

[wadistance]

I am firmly in the take Reid camp.

But no player is bigger than the club.

Especially not a 17yo who hasn’t played one game of AFL.

Reality check please.

I just think it’s stupid, Reid’s going out on a limb telling everyone he’d love to come here and we can’t show the same faith. We should be rolling out the red carpet for him because it’s clear that a “godfather” offer isn’t going to come.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

My birthday is November 10. Just so happens the last day of trade draft picks is November 10th.

I swear if pieman f**ks up my birthday I'm going be pissed. I mean I will be literally pissed. I'm going to get really drunk

And also I will be angry too lol

In 2017 when the Pieman took both Brander and Allen and we missed Kelly and took Ainsworth, I responded quite "unfamily friendly" at an important annual external event. My missus now asks each year if the draft is on that same day as the big event as she does not want me doing an encore.

Apart from last year, I usually find reason for the Pieman not to do what I want. I am hoping he has turned a new leaf.

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

JTR

Or

McKercher + Curtin

Either one of those scenarios and I’d be content, I still think McKercher and Sanders will be best suited for our list but what do I know

 

[eaglespremiers]

Can you guys seriously cut this 2 and 3 crap out? Double so for 2, 3 and anything else. Put it in the ******* bin.

It’s laughable any of you think that’s going to happen.
North aren’t going to tank their hand for Reid. Yes we can get 2. Yes there’ll be something else. Possibly another something else. Possibly not.

If you honestly think the proposed trade quoted is a remote possibility then kindly delete your BigFooty account. You’re making the rest of us look moronic for bandying that around.

My stance would be 2 and two later first rounds, whatever that looks like. Maybe we send our second rounder back. Maybe not.

The echo chamber some of you have created here needs to be addressed for what it is. Fantasy.

You’re entitled to an opinion, ya boy Mop can’t deny you that, but I’ll call you a muppet for it.

You could always permanently move to the North forum as you're already chummy over there and join their version of reality.

 

[JackOutback]

3 team trade, who says no?

WC give: 1
WC get: 2 and 6

NM give: 2 and 3
NM get: 1, 11, future 3rd (MEL)

MEL Give: 6 and 11, future 2nd
MEL get: 3, future 3rd (NM)

West Coast draft McKercher at 2, Curtin at 6

North give up 2 and 3 but draft Reid at 1, get 11 back - still maintain 15,17,18 - can move two of those picks to potentially move up to say Geelong’s pick 8 too

Melbourne move up to get their key target in Duursma

This seems like the most realistic trade suggestion in recent pages, but Melbourne the most likely to say no.

 

[Mop]

Points wise that's only the equivalent of a free pick 6 so I think you've lost the plot if you think that's completely ridiculous for Harley Reid.

Sure, North won't do it, but as a minimum requirement for posters here to ask for if we end up shipping pick 1 it's not that unreasonable.

If you then factor in all the freebie picks North got (including 3 for McKay), I think you're just having an old man yells at cloud moment.

Only a free pick 6?

You just shot down your own argument

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I just think it’s stupid, Reid’s going out on a limb telling everyone he’d love to come here and we can’t show the same faith. We should be rolling out the red carpet for him because it’s clear that a “godfather” offer isn’t going to come.

How do you know a Godfather offer is not coming? I suspect ROB has been in dialogue and it is "let's see what you can actually offer after this trade period finishes". He has been pretty clear - show me the picks and I will tell you if I have any interest.

For people not used to the home auction process, the build up and the expectation gets greater the closer you get to the auction day and the hammer going down. You invariably get the best bid on the day and a buyer needs to make an offer well above market for the home to be taken off the market early.

Relax. ROB is doing fine. We should probably not expect any real action until 20th of November hence I am now worried for your physical and mental health. Just chill.

 

[Mop]

You could always permanently move to the North forum as you're already chummy over there and join their version of reality.

Way less echo chambery for the most part. It’s almost as if some of you think if you repeat it enough times it’ll be true.

 

[Obeanie1]

Because our F1 perceived value and what will be its actual value may not be the same.

Provided we trade it out on the basis it is a top 2 pick then it is difficult for us to lose. And we are trading for a more known quantity.

Nexts years number one could be a Sheezel, Smith, Perkins type. All of a sudden our pick 1 has less value than it does now because they know we want to trade it out.

The top 3 players could also all be the of the same quality and therefore pick 1 loses its value again.

We of course could also improve and we get top value for pick 6 or whatever.

Exactly.

And then there is the benefit of getting one or two quality kids in 12 months earlier.

Who dares wins,

 

[MerryHell]

My stance would be 2 and two later first rounds, whatever that looks like. Maybe we send our second rounder back. Maybe not.

We turned down hawks Pick 4 and future first rounder, probably another top 5, or top 10 at worst

North are not keeping Pick 2 if they trade for Pick 1

So it would need to be at least Pick 2 plus another top 10 pick you would think

 

[Jupes]

Can you guys seriously cut this 2 and 3 crap out? Double so for 2, 3 and anything else. Put it in the ******* bin.

It’s laughable any of you think that’s going to happen.
North aren’t going to tank their hand for Reid. Yes we can get 2. Yes there’ll be something else. Possibly another something else. Possibly not.

If you honestly think the proposed trade quoted is a remote possibility then kindly delete your BigFooty account. You’re making the rest of us look moronic for bandying that around.

My stance would be 2 and two later first rounds, whatever that looks like. Maybe we send our second rounder back. Maybe not.

The echo chamber some of you have created here needs to be addressed for what it is. Fantasy.

You’re entitled to an opinion, ya boy Mop can’t deny you that, but I’ll call you a muppet for it.

we've already knocked back 2x top 5 picks and a player. it's not like 2+3 is a million miles in front of that.
your stance of pick 2 + 2x late first rounders can get in the bin, just quietly.

 

[Mop]

We turned down hawks Pick 4 and future first rounder, probably another top 5, or top 10 at worst

North are not keeping Pick 2 if they trade for Pick 1

So it would need to be at least Pick 2 plus another top 10 pick you would think

I don’t necessarily disagree with that - it just won’t be 2 and 3. It needs to be 2, yes, and something else. Be it the two later firsts or a mid first.

 

[wadistance]

lol it's nothing like the Judd comparison. Judd wasn't the consensus #1 pick, he was seen as an injury risk which is why he went at #3.

If anything the Judd point is an argument for trading the pick.

Except Judd was the top ranked player in that draft pool. Injuries don’t dilute talent - they just make people worried about longevity.

 

[Mop]

we've already knocked back 2x top 5 picks and a player. it's not like 2+3 is a million miles in front of that.
your stance of pick 2 + 2x late first rounders can get in the bin, just quietly.

Yes we did, because as far as I see it our board contains two primary targets plus a secondary target of Curtin if we can somehow score it (unlikely)

Getting Hawthorn’s picks do nothing to achieve that aim. It was made clear after that call that the Curtin being our target was fake news, otherwise we could’ve taken the deal. I’ll admit, even I thought Curtin was the plan B until then.

2 + two mid-late (13 and 18ish?) is perfectly fine by me. You can disagree if you want, chieftain.

I’d also be quite happy with drafting Reid.

 

[wadistance]

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Genius here

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

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Exactly

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Can you guys seriously cut this 2 and 3 crap out? Double so for 2, 3 and anything else. Put it in the ******* bin.

It’s laughable any of you think that’s going to happen.
North aren’t going to tank their hand for Reid. Yes we can get 2. Yes there’ll be something else. Possibly another something else. Possibly not.

If you honestly think the proposed trade quoted is a remote possibility then kindly delete your BigFooty account. You’re making the rest of us look moronic for bandying that around.

My stance would be 2 and two later first rounds, whatever that looks like. Maybe we send our second rounder back. Maybe not.

The echo chamber some of you have created here needs to be addressed for what it is. Fantasy.

You’re entitled to an opinion, ya boy Mop can’t deny you that, but I’ll call you a muppet for it.

No where did I say north would do it. As I said my minimum is the picks that get us mckercher and Curtin. Anything else, being one of those two, and a couple of late teen picks doesn’t do it in my eyes.

Who knows what the club will do though.

If I actually cared about your thoughts I’d be upset you called me a muppet but I don’t so it’s ok.

 

[bzparkes]

Way less echo chambery for the most part.

Missed the dozens of pages of "WCE will come crawling to us for a trade" I take it?

 

[Jupes]

here's my trade proposal:

we wait until draft night and when we're on the clock we take our pick 1 and hand it to the afl in exchange for one harley reid

 

[Mop]

No where did I say north would do it. As I said my minimum is the picks that get us mckercher and Curtin. Anything else, being one of those two, and a couple of late teen picks doesn’t do it in my eyes.

Who knows what the club will do though.

If I actually cared about your thoughts I’d be upset you called me a muppet but I don’t so it’s ok.

I also perhaps disagree with your first point - McKercher yes. It’s 2 or bust there.
Curtin though? Maybe a pick 6 gets it done.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Still a tall order.

I wasn’t actually targeting you as an individual either, but I can see why it would appear I was.

 

[Mop]

Missed the dozens of pages of "WCE will come crawling to us for a trade" I take it?

You get pockets of it on every board, by and large they were a relatively open minded bunch.