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My gut feel is it will be Sid Vicious. Its going to be something that just rolls of the tongue. He may not even get a clever nickname by the commentators.
Gets my vote. His intensity lends itself to being seen as vicious

Like my favourite player nickname of all time - Mark Viska. Death.

Leave the opposition in no doubt
 

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Gets my vote. His intensity lends itself to being seen as vicious

Like my favourite player nickname of all time - Mark Viska. Death.

Leave the opposition in no doubt
Would be rubbed out for 10 weeks at a time these days the way he smashed opponents. My Byron chiro treated Mark the other year and said what a lovely mild mannered guy he was (these days)!

Not overly important but I actually thought his nickname was “white death”. The following in a WA paper references “whispering death”. Either way, death and/or pain was the constant

Fremantle Dockers legend Matthew Pavlich opens up on ...​

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29 Oct 2024 — “Mark Viska's nickname was Whispering Death because he liked to physically challenge opponents,” Pavlich recalled. “I had that in the back ...
 
Would be rubbed out for 10 weeks at a time these days the way he smashed opponents. My Byron chiro treated Mark the other year and said what a lovely mild mannered guy he was (these days)!

Not overly important but I actually thought his nickname was “white death”. The following in a WA paper references “whispering death”. Either way, death and/or pain was the constant

Fremantle Dockers legend Matthew Pavlich opens up on ...

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29 Oct 2024 — “Mark Viska's nickname was Whispering Death because he liked to physically challenge opponents,” Pavlich recalled. “I had that in the back ...
The Bays had awesome half backs with Viska & Mackay.
 
Why didn't Andrew Mackay end up on the Crows list?
Probably sent us a letter saying dont draft me

We had 26 - McKinnon - Carlton had 13

Though our zone recruits that year helped us win a flag

( Roo and Groom)
 
Andrew McKay? We didn't have a pick early enough and I don't think we had any draft concessions left, did we?
Drugs Are Bad Mackay?

yeah i think thats right. lots of memory stuff below and happy to be corrected.

our main concessions were pre entry in 1990 allowing

(1) 10 previously listed VFL players to remain in SA (A Jarman, Bones Mc Dermott, Scodges etc. D Jars initially said he was staying but then obviously stolen with a bag of cash and/or new car by Horks meaning we also missed out on our next-in-line replacement pick of the 10 in Richard Champion who had already committed to Bears and we got David Brown instead - sort of handy but not exactly Jars..)
(2) Uncontracted VFL players from SA (I think only SA) to return home and we got Mc Guiness, Anderson, Danny Hughes and Lindner from memory. Could be a slight variation here as have drunk far too much in the last 30+ years no doubt impairing memory.

Rehn also acquired for the 1991 season and cant remember exactly how we got him but do remember being at Footy Park the last minor round and seeing him sell candy to Kangas players after exhibiting huge skill level and marking ability already in previous weeks, and thinking 'wow, man what have we got here'. A few short years later he was Brownlow fave heading into the season he did his ACL...

(3) Then in 1991 or start of 1992 (cant remember details) we got 10 other highly talented SA draftees to be allocated to us. This is what won us flags - Roo, Hart, Wellman (Jars), Modra, Groom (McLeod), Bone and a few others (could have been Matthew Kelly, Peter Turner, Adam Saliba and Seb Packer - or they may have been the year before but all supremely talented and cruelled by injury - well Saliba the 'faster, better version of Andrew Jarman' was self inflicted lack of handling AFL etc

We got VERY LUCKY with our timing of entry into the big league with the names above. the depth is better than any previous period and even quality of the top 4 is similar to the Sticks, Bradley, Plat the Rat and Motley crew a few years earlier.

SO - LONG STORY SHORT haha - with Mc Kay I think it was either AFTER our initial concessions ended OR he just wasnt as highly rated as the other names

PS Both Wanganeen and Buckley could have also played for us IIRC but wanted to play (ultimately in Buckleys case) for a big MLB club

PPS Carey also got very close to coming 'home' end of 1992 IIRC as we were all over him at the time but he stayed with Kangas and the rest is history. Anyone remembering the SOO with Carey and Modra our 2 leading forwards were salivating at the prospect of pairing them
 
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Probably sent us a letter saying dont draft me

We had 26 - McKinnon - Carlton had 13

Though our zone recruits that year helped us win a flag

( Roo and Groom)
good memory mate. he definitely did that to some teams as per Wiki

McKay was recruited by Carlton Football Club with its first round selection in the 1992 AFL Draft (No. 13 overall), although he was later fined $10,000 when it emerged that he had contacted four of the AFL's struggling clubs (Sydney, Brisbane Bears, Richmond and Fitzroy) and warned them that he would stay in South Australia if one of those clubs drafted him – which contravened the AFL's draft tampering rules.[3] He nevertheless remained eligible to play for Carlton, and he made his debut in Round 1, 1993, immediately displaying the outstanding defensive skills that he had displayed at Glenelg. In his first AFL season, McKay was named on the half-back flank in the All-Australian team. He also represented South Australia at State of Origin that season, a feat he repeated in 1994 and 1995.[4] In 1995, McKay was a member of Carlton's premiership team, the only premiership in his senior career.[1][2] McKay played 15 of Carlton's 24 matches in the 1996 AFL season.[1][2]
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay?

yeah i think thats right. lots of memory stuff below and happy to be corrected.

our main concessions were pre entry in 1990 allowing

(1) 10 previously listed VFL players to remain in SA (A Jarman, Bones Mc Dermott, Scodges etc. D Jars initially said he was staying but then obviously stolen with a bag of cash and/or new car by Horks meaning we also missed out on our next-in-line replacement pick of the 10 in Richard Champion who had already committed to Bears and we got David Brown instead - sort of handy but not exactly Jars..)
(2) Uncontracted VFL players from SA (I think only SA) to return home and we got Mc Guiness, Anderson, Danny Hughes and Lindner from memory. Could be a slight variation here as have drunk far too much in the last 30+ years no doubt impairing memory.

Rehn also acquired for the 1991 season and cant remember exactly how we got him but do remember being at Footy Park the last minor round and seeing him sell candy to Kangas players after exhibiting huge skill level and marking ability already in previous weeks, and thinking 'wow, man what have we got here'. A few short years later he was Brownlow fave heading into the season he did his ACL...

(3) Then in 1991 or start of 1992 (cant remember details) we got 10 other highly talented SA draftees to be allocated to us. This is what won us flags - Roo, Hart, Wellman (Jars), Modra, Groom (McLeod), Bone and a few others (could have been Matthew Kelly, Peter Turner, Adam Saliba and Seb Packer - or they may have been the year before but all supremely talented and cruelled by injury - well Saliba the 'faster, better version of Andrew Jarman' was self inflicted lack of handling AFL etc

We got VERY LUCKY with our timing of entry into the big league with the names above. the depth is better than any previous period and even quality of the top 4 is similar to the Sticks, Bradley, Plat the Rat and Motley crew a few years earlier.

SO - LONG STORY SHORT haha - with Mc Kay I think it was either AFTER our initial concessions ended OR he just wasnt as highly rated as the other names

PS Both Wanganeen and Buckley could have also played for us IIRC but wanted to play (ultimately in Buckleys case) for a big MLB club

PPS Carey also got very close to coming 'home' end of 1992 IIRC as we were all over him at the time but he stayed with Kangas and the rest is history. Anyone remembering the SOO with Carey and Modra our 2 leading forwards were salivating at the prospect of pairing them
Some interesting stuff in there I didn't know. I was only 5 in our first flag.

Imagine a side with Buckley and Ricciuto in it, or Wanganeen and McLeod, or Modra and Carey?!
 
Andrew McKay? We didn't have a pick early enough and I don't think we had any draft concessions left, did we?
1970 date of birth

So we could have had him in our initial squad

I remember Cornesy talking about how the priority was to be competitive and successful straight away. Which is why we picked quite a few SANFL stalwarts (Bruce Lindsay, Tom Warhurst, David Marshall, Darrel Hart) rather than stockpile younger SA talent
 
1970 date of birth

So we could have had him in our initial squad

I remember Cornesy talking about how the priority was to be competitive and successful straight away. Which is why we picked quite a few SANFL stalwarts (Bruce Lindsay, Tom Warhurst, David Marshall, Darrel Hart) rather than stockpile younger SA talent
In fairness our stockpiling of young talent was quite exceptional as per the list I posted plus lots more - Liptak, Jameson, Tregenza etc. Not sure we could have done too much better overall esp considering Buckley and Wanganeen didn’t want to play for us.

Doesn’t mean we missed the odd player though and perhaps McKay was one of them
 

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