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Well I hope Tom Lamb proves a lot of people wrong and is our version of Jack Darling
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+1. Hawthorn took Dayle Garlett despite past discrepancies, I'd like to think an AFL club can provide the support and counselling to get these kids to turn their lives around.
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Good post, but it's fair to say all of us have been banging on about us having a low tolerance of St Kilda players behaviour after the litany of indescretions in the last few years, it has cost us money and our brand has suffered majorly.
All I am suggesting is that I would prefer to have kids of unquestionable character instead of borderline kids.....Caro will be waiting knife in hand to bring us down.
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Brian the early bird gets the worm. And so many great reasons to get up early living here on the Sunshine Coast.
ffs leave tom lamb alone hes the grandson of a stkilda premiership player. we look after our own were not collingwood.
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D. New thread please.
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I have no idea who Tom Lamb is or what he is about.
What I do know is that many a business leader and elite sports person have had a less than auspicious life style when they were young. I grew up around St Kilda in a time where you would be crazy to walk the streets after dark... think Bojangles. And yeah we did some crazy things. And most of us have done ok... we grew up.
People can come good if they want to. Many of us no doubt (and myself included) have done foolish things in our youth and truth is that we don't know why a person does what they do. No one knows what goes on inside that person's head, life and family that motivates them to be silly. It could be peer pressure, it could be family problems. No one knows.
Their family could be dysfunctional for all we know. There's the old saying that to know a man then you should walk a mile in his shoes. So unless anyone has, they should just STFU up about him. If he is looking to carve out a career and make a life for himself, then all power to him.
He deserves a chance just like the rest of us. There are many who have done far worse than he has allegedly done and been given a shot at redemption. So I cannot fathom why anyone would be so quick to write him off because he is just a kid who perhaps needs some proper guidance.
I am also appalled at the some of the hypocrisy when it comes to passing judgement on people. Sure he may have done some silly things... but you'd want to make sure that your closet is empty of skeletons before you judge him or call him names... especially people who make racist remarks or defamatory / sexist remarks on social media.
These kids will decide what they do in the future and that their destiny will hold. The past does not equal the future unless they want it that way.
But it certainly isn't up to us to judge or predict what a person's character will grow into.
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Sorry but I am growing tired of all this personal nastiness towards players.
What I do know is that many a business leader and elite sports person have had a less than auspicious life style when they were young. I grew up around St Kilda in a time where you would be crazy to walk the streets after dark... think Bojangles. And yeah we did some crazy things. And most of us have done ok... we grew up.
People can come good if they want to. Many of us no doubt (and myself included) have done foolish things in our youth and truth is that we don't know why a person does what they do. No one knows what goes on inside that person's head, life and family that motivates them to be silly. It could be peer pressure, it could be family problems. No one knows.
Their family could be dysfunctional for all we know. There's the old saying that to know a man then you should walk a mile in his shoes. So unless anyone has, they should just STFU up about him. If he is looking to carve out a career and make a life for himself, then all power to him.
He deserves a chance just like the rest of us. There are many who have done far worse than he has allegedly done and been given a shot at redemption. So I cannot fathom why anyone would be so quick to write him off because he is just a kid who perhaps needs some proper guidance.
I am also appalled at the some of the hypocrisy when it comes to passing judgement on people. Sure he may have done some silly things... but you'd want to make sure that your closet is empty of skeletons before you judge him or call him names... especially people who make racist remarks or defamatory / sexist remarks on social media.
These kids will decide what they do in the future and that their destiny will hold. The past does not equal the future unless they want it that way.
But it certainly isn't up to us to judge or predict what a person's character will grow into.
IMHO
Sorry but I am growing tired of all this personal nastiness towards players.
Don't you realise that you have to run schedule and lifestyle past BrianS for approval??
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frawley has put off contract talks. saints better have an offer for him pretty soon
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Do we really need him? Since we just got backmen.
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Why would he leave Melbourne and join St Kilda?
Sounds pretty stupid, doubt he'll be in a St Kilda Guernsey in 2015.
Sounds pretty stupid, doubt he'll be in a St Kilda Guernsey in 2015.
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a free agency bidding war might help. Free agency works better for clubs with cap space.
I just spent a weeks vacation at my mate's place in Brisbane.
Good reasons to get up early = 30 degree's at six o clock due to stubborn resistance to daylight saving.
Bad reasons to get up early = hungover and seedy.
But how good are they?
We also have midfielders and forwards and rucks. How can we lose?
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I agree with this, but to what extent are we willing to protect "our own" at the reputation of the football club? It's a sport about passion and team-work, sure, but in this business and especially with the Saints history, we must start to think of making tough choices.
Absolutely. So expect him to be a Hawks player for 2015.
what is he 17? he cant be that bad the ais are taking him overseas. sometimes you have to take risks its part of life whether it be footy, business or other. no point sitting around saying hes a gun that kid despite his past, its a shame he plays for carlton.
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