List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part V

[Joffaboy]

Yeah if he pulls off 5+9+more it will genuinely be a feather in his cap.

Yep he wins the trade every year. Too bad about....

 

[Ads734]

Trout strikes again

Like the club told me "Trout over paid the guys we already had and didn't offer enough for the players we wanted to get"

Was actually Ahmet Bain’s handling his last contract

 

[bird_man]

To be fair, he said that Saints will have a hard time getting it all done. Never said that they won't get done

Adelaide being absolute w***ers. Seems like the doggies and Saints will work out a deal where both parties are happy (no stand off tatics etc)

Not sure it's all Adelaides fault to be fair.

Dogs went into the trade period expecting to get 2 good KPP's with a heap of shit picks.

Keath is worth pick 32 IMO and Bruce higher than that.

Dogs have just sat on their hands and done nothing besides offer unders for each player.

I don't care if we only get 34 as it will likely end up at Sydney, but no can understand why it's taking so long.

Also, do you actually believe our Gallagher, Lethlean and Gubby were not talking to each other about each deal and just doing their own thing??

 

[Keg on legs]

Not sure it's all Adelaides fault to be fair.

Dogs went into the trade period expecting to get 2 good KPP's with a heap of shit picks.

Keath is worth pick 32 IMO and Bruce higher than that.

Dogs have just sat on their hands and done nothing besides offer unders for each player.

I don't care if we only get 34 as it will likely end up at Sydney, but no can understand why it's taking so long.

well said

 

[Peterbudge]

I don't care much for stats

Truth is, if not for our injuries, Acres wasn't best, 22 this year and probably wouldn't be round 1.

Jones is a walk up start.

I like stats but you gotta to appreciate their limitations. Comparing the stats of Jones who played mostly HB until this year to Acres is pointless

 

[Joffaboy]

Not sure it's all Adelaides fault to be fair.

Dogs went into the trade period expecting to get 2 good KPP's with a heap of shit picks.

Keath is worth pick 32 IMO and Bruce higher than that.

Dogs have just sat on their hands and done nothing besides offer unders for each player.

I don't care if we only get 34 as it will likely end up at Sydney, but no can understand why it's taking so long.

Dont be surprised if we get Jones without the Bruce deal.
We may yet keep Josh. Terrible look for Bains.
Raided his old club for contracted player, tried to lowball and then didn't get it done.

Who would put their hand up for that shit if you were a player? Amateur hour.

 

[stfan]

Was actually Ahmet Bain’s handling his last contract

Bain's is way overated by many on here.

 

[Armoooo]

Seems like the doggies and Saints will work out a deal where both parties are happy (no stand off tatics etc)

Nobody asked me how I'd feel about it

 

[TheEnsign]

Doing a trade ban until 3pm on the last day is f**king stupid given that many trades hinge off each other.

I get that AFL House would have expected more deals to have been done in the previous few days but now they face a logjam of trades actually getting lodged (i.e. the paperwork getting done) and tbh it probably means there's more than a few that will fall on the wayside due to there just not being enough time to properly explore the permutations after the 'big' deals (which in this period would be Hill, Papley, Daniher, Martin) get finalised.

People are at work anyway, it doesn't build drama or excitement. I'd support trade period being three days in future.

 

[compact72]

Not sure it's all Adelaides fault to be fair.

Dogs went into the trade period expecting to get 2 good KPP's with a heap of shit picks.

Keath is worth pick 32 IMO and Bruce higher than that.

Dogs have just sat on their hands and done nothing besides offer unders for each player.

I don't care if we only get 34 as it will likely end up at Sydney, but no can understand why it's taking so long.

Also, do you actually believe our Gallagher, Lethlean and Gubby were not talking to each other about each deal and just doing their own thing??

Adelaide will get nothing for Keath if they don't accept the trade, their call

We will be fine even if we don't get our trades. They would be ideal but not crucial (hence why the low picks).

Seems like we have a good pick at 13, why would they risk it? We have nailed our draft for some time, so can understand why they're confident in keeping it

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Doing a trade ban until 3pm on the last day is f**king stupid given that many trades hinge off each other.

I get that AFL House would have expected more deals to have been done in the previous few days but now they face a logjam of trades actually getting lodged (i.e. the paperwork getting done) and tbh it probably means there's more than a few that will fall on the wayside due to there just not being enough time to properly explore the permutations after the 'big' deals (which in this period would be Hill, Papley, Daniher, Martin) get finalised.

People are at work anyway, it doesn't build drama or excitement. I'd support trade period being three days in future.

What a joke. I didn't even realise they were doing that. Ridiculous.

Next year make it three days and televise the lot if you want your precious ratings.

 

[StickyMick]

What are everyone's expectations on next year provided we get these deals done today (Hill, Jones)? On average each year 3 out of 8 teams drop out of the top 8. And I honestly can't see the teams that finished ahead of us (Port, Crows, North, Freo) making the jump. Hawthorn I could, maybe Carlton as a smokey but even that would seem unlikely. Melbourne? Find it hard to see them rocket up the ladder again as well. Playing a similar draw to this year, and adding some decent players I could see us as a 11/12 win team, putting us on the cusp of finals. Does anyone else see it like that or should expectations be lowered or raised?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Dont be surprised if we get Jones without the Bruce deal.
We may yet keep Josh. Terrible look for Bains.
Raided his old club for contracted player, tried to lowball and then didn't get it done.

Who would put their hand up for that shit if you were a player? Amateur hour.

That would be the cherry on the top of a great trade period.
Really hope it works out that way.
( Give Brucey a little bonus this year to keep him happy.)

 

[DGontheQT]

Richo probably told Belly that Blake Acres was one of his go to ruckman. Belly then said hmmm , we need to replace Sandilands. Hence the late changes.

 

[Joffaboy]

Adelaide will get nothing for Keath if they don't accept the trade, their call

We will be fine even if we don't get our trades. They would be ideal but not crucial (hence why the low picks).

Seems like we have a good pick at 13, why would they risk it? We have nailed our draft for some time, so can understand why they're confident in keeping it

Why risk it? You have offered a contracted player 4 x 750 and then tried to lowball.

Absolute poor trading

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Why risk it? You have offered a contracted player 4 x 750 and then tried to lowball.

Absolute poor trading

If the dogs parted with their precious pick 13, they would have Bruce and Keath at the club - it just makes no sense to me.

 

[bird_man]

Adelaide will get nothing for Keath if they don't accept the trade, their call

We will be fine even if we don't get our trades. They would be ideal but not crucial (hence why the low picks).

Seems like we have a good pick at 13, why would they risk it? We have nailed our draft for some time, so can understand why they're confident in keeping it

That's fine if you want to keep 13, but you need to find other ways. Trading up, using a future pick, trading out a player.

It is a poor look to offer big contracts and then not be willing to at least give a fair trade in return.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

What are everyone's expectations on next year provided we get these deals done today (Hill, Jones)? On average each year 3 out of 8 teams drop out of the top 8. And I honestly can't see the teams that finished ahead of us (Port, Crows, North, Freo) making the jump. Hawthorn I could, maybe Carlton as a smokey but even that would seem unlikely. Melbourne? Find it hard to see them rocket up the ladder again as well. Playing a similar draw to this year, and adding some decent players I could see us as a 11/12 win team, putting us on the cusp of finals. Does anyone else see it like that or should expectations be lowered or raised?

I see us improving and challenging for the eight but likely not making it. Ditto for Carlton. Both clubs will want to be in the eight in 2021 and pushing top four after that. I see a lot of similarities between the two clubs (probably because I watch them both closely too) and if both get all their trades done, a rise up the ladder is inevitable.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

That's fine if you want to keep 13, but you need to find other ways. Trading up, using a future pick, trading out a player.

It is a poor look to offer big contracts and then not be willing to at least give a fair trade in return.

I forget if I already asked this but is a future 2nd for Bruce a good deal? For both parties?

 

[Armoooo]

Doing a trade ban until 3pm on the last day is f**king stupid given that many trades hinge off each other.

I get that AFL House would have expected more deals to have been done in the previous few days but now they face a logjam of trades actually getting lodged (i.e. the paperwork getting done) and tbh it probably means there's more than a few that will fall on the wayside due to there just not being enough time to properly explore the permutations after the 'big' deals (which in this period would be Hill, Papley, Daniher, Martin) get finalised.

People are at work anyway, it doesn't build drama or excitement. I'd support trade period being three days in future.

I'm sure the paperwork has all been drawn up, it will just be the signatures being jotted down. Would be surprised if any deals are impacted whatsoever.

 

[kernelT]

Honestly where would Acres play next year with Hill & Jones coming in? We have Billings on one wing, hopefully going half forward at times which would leave Hill & Jones on the wings, who both have pace which is what we have been SCREAMING out for the last couple of years. Clark has gone past him for a midfield spot, as hopefully Hanners does if he can stay injury free. Future 3rd round pick for a fringe player on decent coin? I'll take it everyday of the week.

Would rather Acres on a wing than Jones, comfortably.

 

[PoppedCorn]

I forget if I already asked this but is a future 2nd for Bruce a good deal? For both parties?

Nope

 

[bird_man]

I forget if I already asked this but is a future 2nd for Bruce a good deal? For both parties?

Not really, might as well take 32

Maybe 32 and a future 2nd for Bruce and a future 3rd.

It will all come down to what Sydney want though.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

I'm sure the paperwork has all been drawn up, it will just be the signatures being jotted down. Would be surprised if any deals are impacted whatsoever.

yeah i don't think any deals will be impacted, I'm just annoyed that they put a freeze until 3PM - makes for (another) boring day)

 

[Darkhour]

Adelaide will get nothing for Keath if they don't accept the trade, their call

We will be fine even if we don't get our trades. They would be ideal but not crucial (hence why the low picks).

Seems like we have a good pick at 13, why would they risk it? We have nailed our draft for some time, so can understand why they're confident in keeping it

You're a competing team next year and with Bruce and Keath next year in your team top 4... is a no brainer... Pick 13 for 2 starters... Would do it in a heartbeat if I was your club.