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So right on cue josh kelly has perhaps the best game by any player for the whole year.
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He looks a gun in his highlights. Obviously had some knocks on him to go mid draft the way he did. He he shown anything to suggest he is AFL quality since we have had him on our list?
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Yes the 5 goals he kicked were amazing
Nowhere near the best game, but looks to be returning to his silky self.
Want him.
He was very good, but he wasn't even the best player on the ground.
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He was pretty good though, his best game for a while. It was on cue as he's being discussed.
campaigner knows there's money to be made
Herald Sun has done a list of what they reckon the top paid players are in the comp. Released 51-100 so far. Not a subscriber but found it on this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...before-posting.1230695/page-164#post-66010592
Hanners is much lower than the widely publicised line of 800-850 in the media. Dougal is on more than I realised. Gresh and Carlisle in there too. Assume that leaves just Hill and Billings in the top 50.
Dan Hannebery
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
St Kilda has long been aggrieved at reports on the scope of Hannebery's contract, a four-year deal with triggers for a fifth season. Instead of earning him up to $800,000 a season, his deal is less than $700,000, still a rich reward but fairer compensation for a player who represented a risk given his groin and soft-tissue concerns of recent years.
Dougal Howard
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
Howard signed a five-year deal with the Saints on $600,000 a season after the swingman fell out of favour at Port Adelaide. While he hasn't set the world on fire yet at the Saints, he has been a solid defensive presence.
Jake Carlisle
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
Carlisle signed on a bumper deal when no one wanted to come to St Kilda, and while he was immediately plunged into a drugs controversy he was able to tick off the final year of his contract with a games-based trigger late last year. It means he is still on an excellent wage this year amid some speculation the club would have brokered a trade last off-season.
Jade Gresham
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $650,000-$700,000
COVID SALARY: $468,000-$504,000
Gresham signed a four-year extension at the start of 2019 through to 2023 and the money was well-earned given he has that perfect mix of darting, dangerous small forward and clearance-winning centre square expert. He pledged his future to the Saints at a time when they didn't have a lot of elite talent, but never looked like going elsewhere.
Hanners is much lower than the widely publicised line of 800-850 in the media. Dougal is on more than I realised. Gresh and Carlisle in there too. Assume that leaves just Hill and Billings in the top 50.
Dan Hannebery
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
St Kilda has long been aggrieved at reports on the scope of Hannebery's contract, a four-year deal with triggers for a fifth season. Instead of earning him up to $800,000 a season, his deal is less than $700,000, still a rich reward but fairer compensation for a player who represented a risk given his groin and soft-tissue concerns of recent years.
Dougal Howard
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
Howard signed a five-year deal with the Saints on $600,000 a season after the swingman fell out of favour at Port Adelaide. While he hasn't set the world on fire yet at the Saints, he has been a solid defensive presence.
Jake Carlisle
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $600,000-$650,000
COVID SALARY: $432,000-$468,000
Carlisle signed on a bumper deal when no one wanted to come to St Kilda, and while he was immediately plunged into a drugs controversy he was able to tick off the final year of his contract with a games-based trigger late last year. It means he is still on an excellent wage this year amid some speculation the club would have brokered a trade last off-season.
Jade Gresham
Club: St Kilda
SALARY: $650,000-$700,000
COVID SALARY: $468,000-$504,000
Gresham signed a four-year extension at the start of 2019 through to 2023 and the money was well-earned given he has that perfect mix of darting, dangerous small forward and clearance-winning centre square expert. He pledged his future to the Saints at a time when they didn't have a lot of elite talent, but never looked like going elsewhere.
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Wouldn’t be letting him go myself.
That's good reading. Thought Hanners was on more than that.
Also shows that Gresham isn't on a significant contract as was suggested here a few weeks ago.
It was reported Howard was on 500-600 when he signed. I was hoping it was on the lower side.
Carlisle will drop well down next year.
Yeah Billings and Hill will be in the top 50, but what about Ross?
He signed his deal just after winning His first best and fairest at a time where we struggled to get to the minimum cap.
Either way I think quite a few contracts would have been front loaded also.
At the time i thought that we re-negotiated Jake's salary down, due to his little home movie episode.
Forgot about Ross, be interesting to see what his is.
Either way, if those figures are accurate, it leaves us with a fair bit of room to move over the next few years. Carlisle OOC end of this year and will either leave or get a lesser contract. Ross OOC end of next year and with the way the salary cap reductions seem to be heading, he's probably in line for a reduction as well.
Steele is in line for nice beefy contract. Battle we need to lock away but he still won't demand massive coin. I can't see us being hamstrung at any point in the next few years. Should still be in a position to target some talent in the off season without having to manipulate the TPP too much.
From what I recall he lost a lot of media incentive extras or something? Worked out to be about 50k a year.
I rate Doogs but 5 years on 600k a year is enormous money. We must rate him way up there.
Are the contract lengths just guesses? We've got him down for 4 in our contract thread. But there was no mention in the link of length.
No it was reported he signed for up to 3m over 5 years
Ah and he still had 3 years left on his Port contract.
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Noticed him playing alongside Ben Patton in that Vic game.
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I think Howard has been really good for us this year and probably hasn't had the right amount of love from the media - Maybe Butlers awesome start combined with Hill's slower start has seen the spotlight fall on them.
But when you sit and watch Howard, he has all the traits needed to be an absolute top line defender. Can play on the talls, has the speed to play on the smalls, leaves his man to go third man up, kills a ridiculous amount of balls and isn't afraid to break a line and be attacking.
And, as we saw last game, he in't afraid to dish out some harsh criticisms to teammates who don't commit the body and help out.
Feel like we got a real steal with him.
But when you sit and watch Howard, he has all the traits needed to be an absolute top line defender. Can play on the talls, has the speed to play on the smalls, leaves his man to go third man up, kills a ridiculous amount of balls and isn't afraid to break a line and be attacking.
And, as we saw last game, he in't afraid to dish out some harsh criticisms to teammates who don't commit the body and help out.
Feel like we got a real steal with him.
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Also the talk of who will replace Carlisle/ is Battle tall enough is silly. Just go watch the first half of the year last season when Battle played as a key back and held the backline together. Plus he has the ability to hit targets with low bullets over distance to break presses wide open. He's going to be a gun.
Our back six of Howard, Patton, Coff, Long, Wilkie & Battle (Throw in Hunter as well unless he moves into the middle) will anchor us for the next 7+ years.
Our back six of Howard, Patton, Coff, Long, Wilkie & Battle (Throw in Hunter as well unless he moves into the middle) will anchor us for the next 7+ years.
I’m hoping we re-sign Carlisle and get several more years from him at CHB but if he does leave, then Battle is clearly the logical replacement. A proven young CHB who can slot in and play there for the best part of a decade.
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It seems like those are the amounts for this year specifically, so someone like Dougal could be on around 650k this year but his deal is front loaded leaving is avg amount closer to the 550k that was the initial report.
And when Gresh signed his contract, I remember being told it was 600k for 4 years, so his might be structured similarly.
Another one to look at is Roberton. His deal was signed at the end of 2017 and he got a new manager to help negotiate himself a better deal. Was reported as being a decent amount at the time.
And I'll be interested to see if Stuv is in there since we are still paying a decent chunk of the last year of his big deal.
You might be correct
If it is specific to the year then we might not see Ross and Robbo at all as I'd imagine both would have been front loaded.
Might also explain why Hanners is lower than expected as he may have had a big pay last year.
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Good call on Ross and Robbo - since we were struggling to pay the minimum cap, I'd be surprised if their contracts weren't massively front loaded.
From memory, they were both in close to 700k per year so were probably on close to 900k in 18/19 and now closer to the 500k mark.
Someone needs to get a DARE in this kids hands...
Robbo is on very good coin. We had to beat the offer that Hawthorn had made him so he got a very nice raise on the back of his outstanding 2017 & the need for the club to make the min cap spend.
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