2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

the reid circle jerk is real

 

[Miha]

No love for Smillie

 

[botts]

No love for Smillie

Reminds me to much of will setterfeild. Dominates junior footy because of his size but it might not translate to afl level

 

[stfan]

Who knows. I still don't think this draft has an absolutely incredible front end. Nearly every player apart from probably Ashcroft has a few question marks. There are ones that you'd prefer but I don't feel like any are absolute certain stars. I like the idea of having multiple picks because I think players right through this draft could end up stars but they are going to be a bit harder to find than most years because it's so even that you are distracted by the volume.

I'm calling it as a repeat of 2017 with a huge run of talent between about pick 15 and 30. A few bad misses will go before then IMO.

Yes much prefer to use both 7 and 8 if we have them both rather than trade one out. You are much more likely to get at least one pretty good mid out of it.


And we desperately need at least one young gun mid.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Lindsay won the Morrish medal, I want him with our 1st pick.

 

[Ads734]

Reminds me to much of will setterfeild. Dominates junior footy because of his size but it might not translate to afl level

He's quick and more of a mover then Setterfield.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

Reminds me to much of will setterfeild. Dominates junior footy because of his size but it might not translate to afl level

Contested competitive beast. 194 cm he’s one I’m least worried about translating at afl level. At minimum he will be a gun clearance player. Has the craft and the athleticism

 

[botts]

Contested competitive beast. 194 cm he’s one I’m least worried about translating at afl level. At minimum he will be a gun clearance player. Has the craft and the athleticism

So was setterfeild.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

So was setterfeild.

nowhere near as powerful as smillie is in his draft year. Just because he was 191cm and a midfielder doesn’t mean they are comparable. Two completely different styles

 

[HeavenlySources]

The best combo would be

7 Reid
8 Smillie

Class and Brute

 

[gringo2011]

Contested competitive beast. 194 cm he’s one I’m least worried about translating at afl level. At minimum he will be a gun clearance player. Has the craft and the athleticism

I'm not convinced. His size advantage over kids half his size evaporates at the next level. To me the lack of competitiveness during the champs has really put a smell over him. He looked disinterested at times. I love Langford because he looks like he wants to impress at every opportunity. Same with Reid. Jagga too.

 

[beside the seaside]

If Lindsay is being added to the group of gun mids then we are guaranteed two of them.

 

[hangdog]

With a few names now dropping as 'hopes' for our 2nd rounder, would anyone be open to trading our Battle Compo for the Swans top 2 picks?

Right now it'd be 8 for 18+19... maybe we ask for a F3rd or something?

If we are worried about the injuries/quality of two players at 7/8 could we grab a Faull + Mid at the end of the first round and still be happy?

Swans picks would slide back 3 (Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard bids).

But yes, I think I'd still take it in live trading (if there wasn't 2 guns when it got to our first pick).

I'm huge on Ough and Hynes. And I'd ideally like a tall with our natural pick 24.

 

[hangdog]

Depending on what we and NM suspect Gold Coast and Melbourne are going to do with their picks Don't be surprised if Saints get offered 2 + F1st from North Melbourne for 7 + 8. Then NM draft Armstrong and Trainor with 7 and 8.

That would be the dumbest deal and I hope North Melbourne are that dumb

 

[hangdog]

Damien Barrett just said “It can’t be a top 10 pick for Josh Battle, I’m sorry”

These guys speak to player managers and have a good idea of what sort money was offered etc.

Prepare yourselves for the lube.
Saints are about to get f***ed

Damien Barrett said that?

I'm pretty confident it's pick 8 now.

 

[hangdog]

I hope you’re right, but he sounded pretty adamant.

Like I mentioned.. they speak to managers fairly regularly.

I imagine the conversations go like this.

Barrett: "Hey, got time fo-"
Agent: "Shite off, Purple!"

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'm not convinced. His size advantage over kids half his size evaporates at the next level. To me the lack of competitiveness during the champs has really put a smell over him. He looked disinterested at times. I love Langford because he looks like he wants to impress at every opportunity. Same with Reid. Jagga too.

You "can" see it here.
Some of those kids he's fending off and tackling look like primary schoolers.

 

[ThomasR]

Swans picks would slide back 3 (Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard bids).

But yes, I think I'd still take it in live trading (if there wasn't 2 guns when it got to our first pick).

I'm huge on Ough and Hynes. And I'd ideally like a tall with our natural pick 24.

I would probably do that deal, a tad reluctantly as I reckon we could get better offers. If the Pies end up with 12 in the Noble trade I'd be looking at that plus their future first, which they won't need with McGuane coming through. Gives us some extra ammo at the trade table next year. Need to hope they rate the guy at 8 a lot higher than we do.

Will be interesting to see if we get Band 4 for Membrey (end of 2nd round), there'll be some good prospects still around at that pick - maybe Ough included? That would be a great result.

 

[TheJackal]

Listened to the Lalor interview again, I just like him more and more. Apart from the barracking for Collingwood bit.

The kid said he was playing elite cricket so never really did a preseason. So injury interrupted without much of a preseason and still impressed more than most.

If I could read between the lines, if Richmond have a second pick before ours then I reckon he'll be gone. Smiled and said he'd like a jumper presented by Dusty. Said he plays like De Goey or Dusty. Dusty will be a Suns player by then but I feel he is sensing some Tigers love.

Lalor I fear will be gone before us, but that explosiveness is what I desperately want for us. He's the game changer, we need a point of difference and to have a Dusty, De Goey, Reid, JHF type to carry us on their back is exactly him I feel.

I'd be OK with any of the other mids, or even Trainor if his concussions weren't a long term concern - but I'm back on the Lalor or bust train knowing FoS, Jagga and Draper will be gone.

 

[hangdog]

Certainly a bit of movement in the top 20 according to Twomey.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

No Ough in the top 30?

 

[hangdog]

Listened to the Lalor interview again, I just like him more and more. Apart from the barracking for Collingwood bit.

The kid said he was playing elite cricket so never really did a preseason. So injury interrupted without much of a preseason and still impressed more than most.

If I could read between the lines, if Richmond have a second pick before ours then I reckon he'll be gone. Smiled and said he'd like a jumper presented by Dusty. Said he plays like De Goey or Dusty. Dusty will be a Suns player by then but I feel he is sensing some Tigers love.

Lalor I fear will be gone before us, but that explosiveness is what I desperately want for us. He's the game changer, we need a point of difference and to have a Dusty, De Goey, Reid, JHF type to carry us on their back is exactly him I feel.

I'd be OK with any of the other mids, or even Trainor if his concussions weren't a long term concern - but I'm back on the Lalor or bust train knowing FoS, Jagga and Draper will be gone.

I get your thoughts re: never doing a pre-season, but on the flip side how's he going to cope with an AFL pre-eason?

 

[akaifu]

No Ough in the top 30?

Low upside I presume

 

[akaifu]

On Smillie, Dylan Alexander made an exceptional video evaluating him as a player. The point that stood out to me was the ground balls argument - for a tall midfielder to make it at AFL level, they have to be able to win ground balls. It's what separates Bontempelli, Cripps, and Green from the likes of Nash and Setterfield. Apparently Smillie is 'elite' in this category in U18s

Alexander then goes on to directly compare Smillie to Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

and the similarities are very promising - including the fall in form for Champs

 

[ScrappyDo]

Lindsay won the Morrish medal, I want him with our 1st pick.

100%

 

[TheJackal]

I get your thoughts re: never doing a pre-season, but on the flip side how's he going to cope with an AFL pre-eason?

But he can do this WITHOUT one, imagine with one. Sure, might struggle with the first one and he'd have to condition his body - especially after the hammy - but I'm excited about the scope for improvement rather than concerned over never had one.