2024 Draft Thread.

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🎯 Draft Period, November 20–21
  • Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
  • Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
  • Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
  • Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
  • List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
  • Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
  • Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm
 
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HeavenlySources said:
Could see another club needing lockdown key def bidding on Cole in the 2nd round. If he continues having good performances it might be better to trade up the later picks we end up with post trade period for player swaps
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Just my opinion but l think we need to trade out 43 and keep the full deck of futures for live trading.
It'll be a challenge getting our trades done this year without hurting our general draft position.
 
St Neil said:
I’d be staggered if Saints don’t get band 1.

Don’t take anything that Tom Morris says to the bank. He has a history of often being wrong.

But imagine if we don’t get band 1. Josh Battle has accepted less to leave and as a consequence this has impacted on the club’s compensation.

There will be considerable ill feeling towards him from the club and its supporters. Such a sad way to leave the club that drafted him as a lad.
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Players leaves for more money “MERCENARY! WHERES YOU LOYALTY?!”

Players leave for a slightly less massive pay rise because they choose what they want to do their life to be happy “DOG! SHOULD TAKE THE MONEY! DIDNT YOU FIGURE OUT THE MYSTERY FA COMPO CALC!”

Seriously people need to remember these are just people in a weird industry where people care about who you work for and think their opinion of their life should matter.


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dudeintheswamp said:
Captain Jack will be an interesting watch next season, hopefully finally getting some help in the middle. It's been a long time coming. Throw him a frickin' bono before he falls off the edge. These last few seasons it could easily be said he Steele hasn't found what he's looking for.

Come @ me mofos.
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I think it’ll still fall well short in there, mccrae in with a couple first year mids, we can’t expect a heap from them.
 

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JG22 said:
I think it’ll still fall well short in there, mccrae in with a couple first year mids, we can’t expect a heap from them.
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Im a bit more optimistic, IF we can get a full list playing for the majority of the year we'll see improvement.

Soldo being big tap ruckman will help just having that big body makes huge a difference at stoppages.

Dont under sell the importance Macrae will have on Steele's and the teams game. Macrae can fill the Crouch role plus some in my view. He is not quick but he does take the ball forward and he is a very good kick of the ball.

Hopefully Windhager recovers from his hamstring surgery and goes up another level, which he has in him. Another preseason and more body development into Phillipou, Garcia & Wilson should see them improve.

If Dow & Clark can have a decent uninterupted preseasons they have to get better. Really they are two from where a major improvement can come from if they have stand out years. Jones will contribute if his body remains sound.

Then burst minutes from Henry and the new kids and we should see some improvement. With some luck with injuries we will be significantly better than this year.
 
70s sainter said:
Morris reporting on Sen this morning that saints won’t get pick 8
Says battles taking less than the 900 the saints offered to stay.
Hope him and his teeth are wrong
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botts said:
It’s borderline. The football club is confident. Just need some front ending and we will be sweet. But if the afl is going to **** a club it will be us
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Not borderline at all. We will get Pick 8 for Battle.
 
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Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread​

so i thought i would put a final list out there(unless the combine changes things), less speculating and putting names out there that i think have AFL traits and more basing the rankings on a 3 tier idea base, 1. where i rank them, 2. where i think they will go in the draft(clubs whispers and hype) and 3. how good i project them to be in the AFL

End of Season Top 50

1. Sid Draper - Sth Adelaide 180cm - i think he has had the best lead up to the draft, he burst onto the scene in 1 game at the u16s and left an impression, then went on to dominate for SA at the u18s as an underager winning all australian selection and being SA's MVP, he had a reasonable champs as a draft age player and ended the year with half a dozen 20+ disposal games in the sanfl, adding to his long resume, so i thought i would put him as pick 1

2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham 179cm (Bris FS)- nearly as good a junior career as his brother, where his brother was mostly seen as a pick 1 certainty if not for FS and GWS going Cadman instead of bidding, he hasnt had the same hype or the same impact, but he is a fantastic prospect in his own right and should go very early, i think pick 2 like his brother makes sense as he is undeniably a highly talented youngster

3. Jagga Smith Oakleigh 181cm - he knows how to win the footy, he has been an accumulator for Oakleigh, at the Champs for VM and for Richmond VFL, he also seems to have started being more direct with disposal which i have liked seeing as last year and early this year he was a bit of a ball hog and didnt play for the team or use it in a winning fashion, some are forecasting him to be pick 1, i see him more at 3 but either way he will go high because of his impressive resume on paper

4. Harry Armstrong Sandringham 194cm - every time i see him play which is most of his games, he is an impressive focal point for whatever team he plays for, 4 goals in a grand final is a great feat as most tall forwards get swamped in prelims and grand finals so for him to perform in modern day defensive structures as a KPF is impressive, he should be the first tall to get picked imo

5. Finn O'Sullivan Oakleigh 182cm - highly talented player who if he had an injury free season with over 25 disposals average wouldve gone at pick 1 with some quality traits in movement, marking ability, kicking action and footy IQ, but injury plagued his season and even when he did play he rarely played at the level he needed to prove himself, he could either come back and be a George Wardlaw story or fall off to mediocrity like Brodie Kemp, its hard to tell, i think he will come back and be a solid piece in a midfield at the AFL level, but he has caused a touch of doubt for his future with such a meh year, where he was to be measured against his peers.

6. Leonardo Lombard GCS A 178cm (GCS)- last year he came onto the scene at the CTL for Gold Coast really standing out from his team mates, he then went on to have a huge run as an underager for the SUNS VFL premiership winning team, he came into this year and kept up his speed and aggressive running style, he will be a fantastic player at the next level and the SUNS get another quality youngster coming through their academy

7. Tobie Travaglia Bendigo 187cm - a player that has been a joy to watch for 2 years at Bendigo, he is an intercepting machine and very flexible for a medium sized player, he can run and carry and his disposal is good also, he just stands out in games and has big influence on results, the next Tom Stewart/James Sicily/Redman type who could also push into the midfield with his running game

8. Sam Lalor GWV 187cm - another player troubled with injury this year, although when he played i did see signs he could be an impressive impact player in the future, so i have jumped on board the bandwagon and i think he is an exciting prospect that could go anywhere from 5-15

9. Harvey Langford Dandenong 190cm - he and Hynes were fantastic players last year and i mentioned they needed to work on fitness and speed and it seems they took that to heart, both coming out of the blocks having huge 2024 seasons and boosting their credentials, Langfords contested marking being a feature early in the CTL and Hynes bursting speed out of the middle being his feature early, Langford then went on to have the best carnival i have seen from an individual and shared honours with another gun in Lombard, he has rocketed up the rankings and deserves a top 10 placing

10. Josh Smillie Eastern 194cm - a player that won VM MVP in the u16s as a hbf, went on to learn midfield and competed decently, his mobility being a weakness, some got excited by the prospect of a tall mid and the absence of a pick 1 favourite with FOS injured, but after a less than average Champs for VM averaging 18 disposals as a full time midfielder, he came back to earth, i think he has talent, but he needs to work on that running game to make it at the next level imo

11. Taj Hotton Sandringham 182cm - if not for injury, i would have him at pick 1(shades of early Chris Judd), but with a knee on a running player i cant have him in the top 10

12. Murphy Reid Sandringham 180cm - a player i think is brilliant at times, but im unsure if he is driven enough?

13. Joe Berry Murray 180cm - i think small forwards with skill and good goal sense are vital for finals footy

14. Alix Tauru Gippsland 191cm - strong intercepting defender, tough as an Ox

15. Jobe Shanahan Bendigo 194cm - great hands in the contest, moves well for a key forward, good focal point

16. Isaac Kako Calder 175cm (Ess NGA)- quick small forward, goal kicking and pressure forward

17. Bo Allan Peel 191cm - has looked fantastic for Peel in the WAFL and during the finals, love his dash from midfield and because he came from hbf reminds people of what Will Day has done at the hawks

18. Kayle Gerreyn West Perth 199cm - he has been fantastic in the wafl colts and was big for WA at the Champs, one of the most consistent talls in the draft pool

19. Luke Trainor Sandringham 194cm - wonderful KPD, with an intercepting game and good disposal, good efforts in rep footy for AFL Academy and at the Champs, unfortunately has concussion issues and so has dropped down the order a little

20. Xavier Lindsay Gippsland 183cm - a player who has lifted this year to put his name up for 1st round consideration, his Champs games being a highlight



21. Jack Ough GWV 194cm - very similar to Bo Allan, he was a quality 3rd tall defender who now has transformed into a quality midfielder

22. Cooper Hynes Dandenong 190cm - explosive pace, kicked a few lovely goals this year, played well without dominating for Vic Country, he seems like a quiet type and lacks some confidence from his game of PIG in pre-season, but when he feels comfortable, he can play great footy

23. Ben Camporeale Glenlg 186cm (Carl FS) - i think Carlton will get their FS at a good price because of the depth of talent this year, Ben is a fantastic tough in and under prospect, in and under guys can kick chaos balls as they are under pressure a lot, but he does the hard yards that dont get you the fame that the running types get.

24. Sam Marshall Sandringham 185cm (Bris A) - a player that had a solid underage year winning the u18s Champs with the Allies, then he backed it up with a fantastic year for Sandringham winning the premiership and playing well and again for the Allies in a less successful team

25. Hugh Boxshall Claremont 187cm - a player that had a good u16s, then was unseen last year because of PSA school footy in WA, then came out and took some courageous marks and played great footy at the Champs, he has gone back to help Claremont win the WAFL Colts grand final, gathering a lazy 30 touches in the GF

26. Oliver Hannaford GWV 180cm - a player who struggled to gain attention as a hbf, but then his move forward saw him show off his speed and attacking flair as well as piling on some goals to rocket him up draft lists

27. Malakai Champion Subiaco 172cm (WCE NGA) - fantastic small forward, very quick, can fumble at times dropping his value a little, but should be an exciting prospect at the Eagles

28. Jesse Dattoli Northern 179cm - a player who has been a quality marking small forward for awhile, but this year he added some midfield and wing minutes during the champs which gave him a boost to his value

29. Alex Dodson South Adel 203cm - a player tossing up between Basketball and footy, he had a couple great games in the ruck and a couple average games in the ruck, i think he is the best pure ruck in the draft pool

30. Evan Bradley North Adel 174cm - small quick goal sneak, there are 4 top tier small forwards Berry, Kako, Champion and Bradley

31. Harry O'Farrell Calder 196cm - shut down tall defender, injured during the champs so lost a chance to prove himself

32. Jonty Faull GWV 195cm - injury interrupted year, unconventional KPF, but he knows how to kick bags

33. Luke Urquhart East Frem 190cm - fantastic burst player through the midfield, gave WA a chance by gaining ground and putting territorial pressure on opponents

34. Christian Moraes Eastern 183cm - obviously talented, but his disposal lets him down and that could be a problem at the next level

35. Josh Murphy Murray 190cm - goal kicking medium forward

36. Tyler Welsh WWT 191cm - played 1 game at u18s kicked 8 goals, then played most of the year in the SANFL Seniors for a return of a goal a game average, height is an issue as he has a KPF Body, might need to drop some kilos?

37. Thomas Sims Northern 199cm - contested marking forward, can pinch hit in the ruck, can also kick bags of goals

38. Lachie Jaques Geelong 184cm - intercept marking defender

39. Xavier Ivisic Geelong 180cm - a player who lost his way last year and earlier this year, but came back with avengence

40. Harrison Oliver Sandringham 181cm - good disposal on the small defender



41. Jack Whitlock Murray 200cm - tall forward with athlticism, disappointing year overall

42. Matt Whitlock Murray 200cm - tall defender with athleticism, disappointing year overall for the brothers

43. Tom Gross Oakleigh 181cm - inconsistent midfielder, manic, and when not manic is not very good.

44. James Barrat Bendigo 193cm - played better as a defender than a forward

45. Jasper Alger Oakleigh 182cm - had a few good Vic Country games

46. Lucas Camporeale Glenlg 185cm - good outside midfield, run and carry

47. Hamish Davis Claremont 190cm - had a good champs, got some WAFL experience and is on the up after a huge WAFL Colts GF

48. Rhys Unwin GWV 178cm - since moving from small forward to midfield has improved his value

49. Benny Barrett South Adel 175cm (Port NGA) - quick smooth moving forward/mid, was good at both u16s and u18s champs when given an opportunity, i think he has the talent to make it at the AFL level

50. Archer Day-Wicks Bendigo 186cm - he gets the final spot based on his xfactor plays and strong marking in the forward line
 
The above phantom is a very balanced effort and one of the first to give credit to the interstate players as they should. The only two Davo looks to well off on are the Whitlock twins I dont know why he has rated them so low. Id expect Jack to be a top 20 pick and Matt in the top 35.

I also think we can expect to see one or two from Tassie and a couple of mature aged players taken. It just goes to show how stacked with talent this draft is. As a club I hope we are working to take advantage of the draft to take as many picks as possible. Obviously list spots will be a premium but this is the draft I think we should be ruthless in making positions available.

Hopefully it will mean we can pick up all of Cole, Hofmann & Peckett all as rookies.
 
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SteeleSaints said:
The above phantom is a very balanced effort and one of the first to give credit to the interstate players as they should. The only two Davo looks to well off on are the Whitlock twins I dont know why he has rated them so low. Id expect Jack to be a top 20 pick and Matt in the top 35.

I also think we can expect to see one or two from Tassie and a couple of mature aged players taken. It just goes to show how stacked with talent this draft is. As a club I hope we are working to take advantage of the draft to take as many picks as possible. Obviously list spots will be a premium but this is the draft I think we should be ruthless in making positions available.

Hopefully it will mean we can pick up all of Cole, Hofmann & Peckett all as rookies.
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Unfortunately, being ruthless may mean those boys don't come to Stkilda.
 
GYoung said:
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Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread​

so i thought i would put a final list out there(unless the combine changes things), less speculating and putting names out there that i think have AFL traits and more basing the rankings on a 3 tier idea base, 1. where i rank them, 2. where i think they will go in the draft(clubs whispers and hype) and 3. how good i project them to be in the AFL

End of Season Top 50

1. Sid Draper - Sth Adelaide 180cm - i think he has had the best lead up to the draft, he burst onto the scene in 1 game at the u16s and left an impression, then went on to dominate for SA at the u18s as an underager winning all australian selection and being SA's MVP, he had a reasonable champs as a draft age player and ended the year with half a dozen 20+ disposal games in the sanfl, adding to his long resume, so i thought i would put him as pick 1

2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham 179cm (Bris FS)- nearly as good a junior career as his brother, where his brother was mostly seen as a pick 1 certainty if not for FS and GWS going Cadman instead of bidding, he hasnt had the same hype or the same impact, but he is a fantastic prospect in his own right and should go very early, i think pick 2 like his brother makes sense as he is undeniably a highly talented youngster

3. Jagga Smith Oakleigh 181cm - he knows how to win the footy, he has been an accumulator for Oakleigh, at the Champs for VM and for Richmond VFL, he also seems to have started being more direct with disposal which i have liked seeing as last year and early this year he was a bit of a ball hog and didnt play for the team or use it in a winning fashion, some are forecasting him to be pick 1, i see him more at 3 but either way he will go high because of his impressive resume on paper

4. Harry Armstrong Sandringham 194cm - every time i see him play which is most of his games, he is an impressive focal point for whatever team he plays for, 4 goals in a grand final is a great feat as most tall forwards get swamped in prelims and grand finals so for him to perform in modern day defensive structures as a KPF is impressive, he should be the first tall to get picked imo

5. Finn O'Sullivan Oakleigh 182cm - highly talented player who if he had an injury free season with over 25 disposals average wouldve gone at pick 1 with some quality traits in movement, marking ability, kicking action and footy IQ, but injury plagued his season and even when he did play he rarely played at the level he needed to prove himself, he could either come back and be a George Wardlaw story or fall off to mediocrity like Brodie Kemp, its hard to tell, i think he will come back and be a solid piece in a midfield at the AFL level, but he has caused a touch of doubt for his future with such a meh year, where he was to be measured against his peers.

6. Leonardo Lombard GCS A 178cm (GCS)- last year he came onto the scene at the CTL for Gold Coast really standing out from his team mates, he then went on to have a huge run as an underager for the SUNS VFL premiership winning team, he came into this year and kept up his speed and aggressive running style, he will be a fantastic player at the next level and the SUNS get another quality youngster coming through their academy

7. Tobie Travaglia Bendigo 187cm - a player that has been a joy to watch for 2 years at Bendigo, he is an intercepting machine and very flexible for a medium sized player, he can run and carry and his disposal is good also, he just stands out in games and has big influence on results, the next Tom Stewart/James Sicily/Redman type who could also push into the midfield with his running game

8. Sam Lalor GWV 187cm - another player troubled with injury this year, although when he played i did see signs he could be an impressive impact player in the future, so i have jumped on board the bandwagon and i think he is an exciting prospect that could go anywhere from 5-15

9. Harvey Langford Dandenong 190cm - he and Hynes were fantastic players last year and i mentioned they needed to work on fitness and speed and it seems they took that to heart, both coming out of the blocks having huge 2024 seasons and boosting their credentials, Langfords contested marking being a feature early in the CTL and Hynes bursting speed out of the middle being his feature early, Langford then went on to have the best carnival i have seen from an individual and shared honours with another gun in Lombard, he has rocketed up the rankings and deserves a top 10 placing

10. Josh Smillie Eastern 194cm - a player that won VM MVP in the u16s as a hbf, went on to learn midfield and competed decently, his mobility being a weakness, some got excited by the prospect of a tall mid and the absence of a pick 1 favourite with FOS injured, but after a less than average Champs for VM averaging 18 disposals as a full time midfielder, he came back to earth, i think he has talent, but he needs to work on that running game to make it at the next level imo

11. Taj Hotton Sandringham 182cm - if not for injury, i would have him at pick 1(shades of early Chris Judd), but with a knee on a running player i cant have him in the top 10

12. Murphy Reid Sandringham 180cm - a player i think is brilliant at times, but im unsure if he is driven enough?

13. Joe Berry Murray 180cm - i think small forwards with skill and good goal sense are vital for finals footy

14. Alix Tauru Gippsland 191cm - strong intercepting defender, tough as an Ox

15. Jobe Shanahan Bendigo 194cm - great hands in the contest, moves well for a key forward, good focal point

16. Isaac Kako Calder 175cm (Ess NGA)- quick small forward, goal kicking and pressure forward

17. Bo Allan Peel 191cm - has looked fantastic for Peel in the WAFL and during the finals, love his dash from midfield and because he came from hbf reminds people of what Will Day has done at the hawks

18. Kayle Gerreyn West Perth 199cm - he has been fantastic in the wafl colts and was big for WA at the Champs, one of the most consistent talls in the draft pool

19. Luke Trainor Sandringham 194cm - wonderful KPD, with an intercepting game and good disposal, good efforts in rep footy for AFL Academy and at the Champs, unfortunately has concussion issues and so has dropped down the order a little

20. Xavier Lindsay Gippsland 183cm - a player who has lifted this year to put his name up for 1st round consideration, his Champs games being a highlight



21. Jack Ough GWV 194cm - very similar to Bo Allan, he was a quality 3rd tall defender who now has transformed into a quality midfielder

22. Cooper Hynes Dandenong 190cm - explosive pace, kicked a few lovely goals this year, played well without dominating for Vic Country, he seems like a quiet type and lacks some confidence from his game of PIG in pre-season, but when he feels comfortable, he can play great footy

23. Ben Camporeale Glenlg 186cm (Carl FS) - i think Carlton will get their FS at a good price because of the depth of talent this year, Ben is a fantastic tough in and under prospect, in and under guys can kick chaos balls as they are under pressure a lot, but he does the hard yards that dont get you the fame that the running types get.

24. Sam Marshall Sandringham 185cm (Bris A) - a player that had a solid underage year winning the u18s Champs with the Allies, then he backed it up with a fantastic year for Sandringham winning the premiership and playing well and again for the Allies in a less successful team

25. Hugh Boxshall Claremont 187cm - a player that had a good u16s, then was unseen last year because of PSA school footy in WA, then came out and took some courageous marks and played great footy at the Champs, he has gone back to help Claremont win the WAFL Colts grand final, gathering a lazy 30 touches in the GF

26. Oliver Hannaford GWV 180cm - a player who struggled to gain attention as a hbf, but then his move forward saw him show off his speed and attacking flair as well as piling on some goals to rocket him up draft lists

27. Malakai Champion Subiaco 172cm (WCE NGA) - fantastic small forward, very quick, can fumble at times dropping his value a little, but should be an exciting prospect at the Eagles

28. Jesse Dattoli Northern 179cm - a player who has been a quality marking small forward for awhile, but this year he added some midfield and wing minutes during the champs which gave him a boost to his value

29. Alex Dodson South Adel 203cm - a player tossing up between Basketball and footy, he had a couple great games in the ruck and a couple average games in the ruck, i think he is the best pure ruck in the draft pool

30. Evan Bradley North Adel 174cm - small quick goal sneak, there are 4 top tier small forwards Berry, Kako, Champion and Bradley

31. Harry O'Farrell Calder 196cm - shut down tall defender, injured during the champs so lost a chance to prove himself

32. Jonty Faull GWV 195cm - injury interrupted year, unconventional KPF, but he knows how to kick bags

33. Luke Urquhart East Frem 190cm - fantastic burst player through the midfield, gave WA a chance by gaining ground and putting territorial pressure on opponents

34. Christian Moraes Eastern 183cm - obviously talented, but his disposal lets him down and that could be a problem at the next level

35. Josh Murphy Murray 190cm - goal kicking medium forward

36. Tyler Welsh WWT 191cm - played 1 game at u18s kicked 8 goals, then played most of the year in the SANFL Seniors for a return of a goal a game average, height is an issue as he has a KPF Body, might need to drop some kilos?

37. Thomas Sims Northern 199cm - contested marking forward, can pinch hit in the ruck, can also kick bags of goals

38. Lachie Jaques Geelong 184cm - intercept marking defender

39. Xavier Ivisic Geelong 180cm - a player who lost his way last year and earlier this year, but came back with avengence

40. Harrison Oliver Sandringham 181cm - good disposal on the small defender



41. Jack Whitlock Murray 200cm - tall forward with athlticism, disappointing year overall

42. Matt Whitlock Murray 200cm - tall defender with athleticism, disappointing year overall for the brothers

43. Tom Gross Oakleigh 181cm - inconsistent midfielder, manic, and when not manic is not very good.

44. James Barrat Bendigo 193cm - played better as a defender than a forward

45. Jasper Alger Oakleigh 182cm - had a few good Vic Country games

46. Lucas Camporeale Glenlg 185cm - good outside midfield, run and carry

47. Hamish Davis Claremont 190cm - had a good champs, got some WAFL experience and is on the up after a huge WAFL Colts GF

48. Rhys Unwin GWV 178cm - since moving from small forward to midfield has improved his value

49. Benny Barrett South Adel 175cm (Port NGA) - quick smooth moving forward/mid, was good at both u16s and u18s champs when given an opportunity, i think he has the talent to make it at the AFL level

50. Archer Day-Wicks Bendigo 186cm - he gets the final spot based on his xfactor plays and strong marking in the forward line
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If a Lombard pick is matched prior to our first pick then we will be pushed out to pick 9 and (hopefully) pick 10.

Davo-27 ranks Hotton number 1 without the knee injury, but dropping to 11 (due to lack of exposed form) - which rates him right around our picks.

Being a local Sandy boy with a brother already at the club, is an added bonus that might sway us Hotton's way if we are tossing up between a few in that 8 -12 group.

I'd be more than happy if we selected him as his early season highlights were as good as anyone's. If it's just a matter of him returning to full fitness then he could still end up being that number one player that Davo-27 was so impressed with earlier in the year.
 

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