List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[Crow till I die]

Would take Lindsay or Travaglia over Smillie/Langford in that scenario, personally

No problems..it was more the premise behind a possible downgrade

 

[Eddie Murphy]

I was thinking if we are happy for any of the 6 mentioned, what do we lose by doing it if GC were open to it?

We really have no excuse to not nail this pick having the luxury of choice among those names. Move down to pick 6 and we have to settle for whoever slides.

 

[Crow till I die]

We really have no excuse to not nail this pick having the luxury of choice among those names. Move down to pick 6 and we have to settle for whoever slides.

Yes but if we are happy with any of them it shouldn't matter who slides and i suppose the big plus in my musing was we keep our F1 which may be used as it currently looks (if we are to believe media reporting)

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Lalor, Langford, Draper, O'Sullivan, Smith, Smillie are all open draft. IF we are happy with any of these players, could we do something like 4 + f2 for 6 and Luko....works if GC are really keen on one of these in particular and can avoid blowing 6 on Rioli

No, it's more important to get a better midfielder than Lukosius.

 

[Cromulant]

No, it's more important to get a better midfielder than Lukosius.

A lot more.

 

[taurus]

Luko is considered soft by Dimma according to whispers. You don't need a luxury player. You need a midfielder.

 

[ams4crows]

Luko is considered soft by Dimma according to whispers. You don't need a luxury player. You need a midfielder.

I agree with him, has a pea heart

 

[Cromulant]

I agree with him, has a pea heart

I wouldn't say pea heart, but he's certainly not the toughest bloke.

If he were a pea heart he wouldn't want to stay under a coach who doesn't want you there.

 

[Carmo]

Luko is considered soft by Dimma according to whispers. You don't need a luxury player. You need a midfielder.

Luko was preserving himself physically so he could give his all for his fave team the Crows when he finally came back, that's what Dimma knows too.

 

[Caputo]

I agree with him, has a pea heart

I liken him to two former high draft picks from Melbourne that finished at Port. More Jack Watts with similar build and style. The other Jimmy Toumpas. I think the pea heart comment is out of line.

 

[Cromulant]

I liken him to two former high draft picks from Melbourne that finished at Port. More Jack Watts with similar build and style. The other Jimmy Toumpas. I think the pea heart comment is out of line.

Toumpas just didn't have the talent.

 

[BigFella!]

Just wondering if anyone else here thinks Matthew Allen from Glenelg deserves a rookie spot on an AFL list? 26 year old, goal kicking midfielder who is a Vice Captain, indicating the Bays rate him as a person and as a leader. In Round 19 he had 30 disposals, 14 marks and kicked 3 goals. Across the season he has averaged 20 disposals, 5 tackles and 6 marks and 3 clearances a game. Just thinking he would certainly be an upgrade on several current Crows players. To me it seems like he has earnt a shot at the AFL, and is too good to be playing SANFL.

 

[Cromulant]

Just wondering if anyone else here thinks Matthew Allen from Glenelg deserves a rookie spot on an AFL list? 26 year old, goal kicking midfielder who is a Vice Captain, indicating the Bays rate him as a person and as a leader. In Round 19 he had 30 disposals, 14 marks and kicked 3 goals. Across the season he has averaged 20 disposals, 5 tackles and 6 marks and 3 clearances a game. Just thinking he would certainly be an upgrade on several current Crows players. To me it seems like he has earnt a shot at the AFL, and is too good to be playing SANFL.

Nah, he's SANFL level good but no more.

 

[Crow till I die]

Just wondering if anyone else here thinks Matthew Allen from Glenelg deserves a rookie spot on an AFL list? 26 year old, goal kicking midfielder who is a Vice Captain, indicating the Bays rate him as a person and as a leader. In Round 19 he had 30 disposals, 14 marks and kicked 3 goals. Across the season he has averaged 20 disposals, 5 tackles and 6 marks and 3 clearances a game. Just thinking he would certainly be an upgrade on several current Crows players. To me it seems like he has earnt a shot at the AFL, and is too good to be playing SANFL.

Not him but i did think had Port had Liam McBean up forward instead of that old broken wharf pier dixon, at least he might have pulled in a few contested marks and banged in a few goals. Mcbean is a very hard player to contain and would well be worth a rookie spot somewhere imo

 

[Cromulant]

Not him but i did think had Port had Liam McBean up forward instead of that old broken wharf pier dixon, at least he might have pulled in a few contested marks and banged in a few goals. Mcbean is a very hard player to contain and would well be worth a rookie spot somewhere imo

Not at 30 he probably isnt.

 

[Crow till I die]

Not at 30 he probably isnt.

ahh, I thought he was a bit younger, fair enough

 

[knobby]

Lachie Hosie probably the better one, tried once at North Melb but that was during Covid Hub and all that.

20 goals from 10 games and seems like a spark, would be a better option than Murphy.\

27 though

 

[BigFella!]

Nah, he's SANFL level good but no more.

As I said, he is an upgrade on several Crows; who aren't even SANFL level good, but somehow playing AFL LOL.

 

[Cromulant]

As I said, he is an upgrade on several Crows; who aren't even SANFL level good, but somehow playing AFL LOL.

Yeah no he isnt.

I know people will say Murphy, but Matt couldnt play small forward in the AFL. He's much like Mitch Grigg was.

 

[Mutineer]

Lads coming together in Ireland with Mark Keane..

 

[fossilllCrow]

Interesting to see how confident people are on Cumming joining but then reports he’s touring both clubs this week. Strange to think he hasn’t made his mind up yet.

 

[Mutineer]

Looks like Mark was playing a game with his local gaelic footy team..

*Edit

Just noticed what Thilly's holding so it was obviously "hurling"

 

[1970crow]

Interesting to see how confident people are on Cumming joining but then reports he’s touring both clubs this week. Strange to think he hasn’t made his mind up yet.

I'm not confident at all. Gut feel is that the preference of Cumming is Port but there's a domino or 2 that could/need to fall that is the cause of the delay. With Lukoscious I think the delay is potentially that initial discussions on trade value is too far apart for him to go public with a choice. But I also think we're more desperate than Port for an immediate uplift and using future first, even though it could be pick 4, delays any judgement on list management for 12 months. And Roo should be gone by then. Unless we create a paid role for him, which would be right up our alley.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Interesting to see how confident people are on Cumming joining but then reports he’s touring both clubs this week. Strange to think he hasn’t made his mind up yet.

Smart he is doing his due diligence.

We have the higher offer, but that is no guarantee...

 

[fossilllCrow]

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I'm not confident at all. Gut feel is that the preference for Cumming is Port but there's a domino or 2 that could/need to fall that is the cause of the delay. With Lukoscious I think the delay is potentially that initial discussions on trade value is too far apart for him to go public with a choice. But I also think we're more desperate than Port for an immediate uplift and using future first, even though it could be pick 4, delays any judgement on list management for 12 months. And Roo should be gone by then. Unless we create a paid role for him, which would be right up our alley.

aha good call.

Yep it’s weird how confident everyone was on Cumming but then he clearly wanted to see PA when he requested. Lands us with spending all year saying we will be aggressive and like you said forcing ourselves to pay overs for Luko.
If we can land Cummings maybe it might help us to have some more balls to play hard ball. Personally I am happy with a 2nd coming back with Luko for a F1. Because I think we lack class and Luko is that whilst I get he’s not A grade.