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My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.
Instead of exploiting WC’s desperation for him, we save them from themselves and screw ourselves in the process. As if it wasn’t already obvious, we just aren’t shrewd operators
 
My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.
Everyone on here was over the moon to get Curtin at the time and give him a break.
 
My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.
Settle down.

It was a fantastic piece of business to get ourselves into position to draft Curtin.

I know he's old fish now - last year's draftee instead of this year - but let's not rewrite how highly regarded he was and is.
 

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My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.
If the powers to be used Curtin further up the ground, i see an exceptional offensive player developing and one that will be part of the greater midfield.

He is one of a dwindling few on our list i would not want to swap.
 
If the powers to be used Curtin further up the ground, i see an exceptional offensive player developing and one that will be part of the greater midfield.

He is one of a dwindling few on our list i would not want to swap.
Whereas I'd take a top ten pick for him and run if we were offered it.

Between Dawson, Hinge, Worrell and a few others, there's not really a spot for him anyway.

Plus there's the flight risk issue.
 
Kind of amazing that people feel like you can actually make a judgement on Dan Curtin as a draft pick at this stage. It's his first year, we won't know how good he is for some time.

Personally I'm confident he'll be a good pickup, but all we are really doing is guessing when you're talking about a 19 year old tall.
 
Especially considering the WA talent is really low in this draft.
I'm not doubting his talent but it might be one of those win/win/win scenarios, especially if this draft is heavy on midfield talent.
 
These are our 100+ game players aged between 25-30:

Matt Crouch
Jordan Dawson
Ben Keays
ROB
Lachie Murphy
Brad Crouch
Jake Lever
Tyson Stengle
Jeremy McGovern
Charlie Cameron
Shane McAdam
Tom Doedee
 
Just remember that Curtin is being primarily coached by Andrew McPherson and Mick Godden

Maybe if we actually had quality coaches developing him he'd be looking better?
 
My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.
For a competent management group it would be the worst. Not for this bunch though, plenty of other howlers.
 
My point was. If the stories are to be believed,WCE wanted to give us their (then) future 1st for the Curtin pick.

If that happened. Turning it down is shaping to be the single worst drafting/list management decision of the Reid/Ogilvie era.

I think it was more a swap of future first round picks. Still agree with you.
 

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These are our 100+ game players aged between 25-30:

Matt Crouch
Jordan Dawson
Ben Keays
ROB
Lachie Murphy
Brad Crouch
Jake Lever
Tyson Stengle
Jeremy McGovern
Charlie Cameron
Shane McAdam
Tom Doedee
Wrong McGovern brother. We had buckets, not the good one.
 
I think it was more a swap of future first round picks. Still agree with you.
Ypu are the only on here that is correct, it was a pick swap of first rounders. Given where we are likely to end up would have been a big win for West Coast
 
Settle down.

It was a fantastic piece of business to get ourselves into position to draft Curtin.

I know he's old fish now - last year's draftee instead of this year - but let's not rewrite how highly regarded he was and is.
Agree to the extent that it was good business getting into position to draft him. That didn’t mean we had to draft him though.

I cannot see any planet where it was a better idea to draft him than to push the pick into what would inevitably be a top 3 this year in what was known to be a midfield rich draft. And top 3 is being generous to WCE with the benefit of hindsight. At the time of the draft I would’ve been confident to say top 2.

Leaving the merits and demerits of Curtin to one side (this is actually not about him) we need midfielders. We have tall defenders coming out of our rectum to the point that we repurposed one into a makeshift key forward last week, and that’s with 2x best 22 tall defenders unavailable for selection.

We had a chance to get an extra elite midfield talent and passed it up to draft a super talent - no argument there - but with no obvious position at AFL level and who we clearly don’t know how to use.

If the powers to be used Curtin further up the ground, i see an exceptional offensive player developing and one that will be part of the greater midfield.

He is one of a dwindling few on our list i would not want to swap.

If this happens, then great. What is abundantly clear though is that it won’t be the current powers that be who do this.

Kind of amazing that people feel like you can actually make a judgement on Dan Curtin as a draft pick at this stage. It's his first year, we won't know how good he is for some time.

Personally I'm confident he'll be a good pickup, but all we are really doing is guessing when you're talking about a 19 year old tall.

I’m not making judgment. I deliberately used the words “shaping up to be” because it’s early days.

I’m not saying I expected him to win the Brownlow or even the Rising Star in year one. But I’d rather hoped that by June we’d be in a position where the best that could be said is something more than “don’t rush to judgment”.

For a competent management group it would be the worst. Not for this bunch though, plenty of other howlers.

Given the strategic disaster of passing up a shot at an elite mid to take someone who they obviously don’t consider to be a mid (followed by the acknowledgment of the weakness of our midfield that is implicit in a 10 year offer to Gulden) - Curtin would need to be a serious difference maker for history to look kindly on this.

If he doesn’t make it, the opportunity cost of picking him makes it worse than McAsey.

I think it was more a swap of future first round picks. Still agree with you.

If this is true it changes everything. But everything I had heard was that it was proposed to be a straight swap. I wouldn’t have a clue of course which is why it is all qualified by “if it happened”.
 
This speculation around Petty, the waiting is the hardest part.

I'd like the club to come out and say, 'he's a contracted player, we won't be pursuing this year'.
I’ve got a bad feeling we’ve Bryce Gibbsed this one and made promises to him that we’ll get him next time no matter what it takes.
And we’d be too nice to say we had our fingers crossed and to forget the whole thing.
 
Agree to the extent that it was good business getting into position to draft him. That didn’t mean we had to draft him though.

I cannot see any planet where it was a better idea to draft him than to push the pick into what would inevitably be a top 3 this year in what was known to be a midfield rich draft. And top 3 is being generous to WCE with the benefit of hindsight. At the time of the draft I would’ve been confident to say top 2.

Leaving the merits and demerits of Curtin to one side (this is actually not about him) we need midfielders. We have tall defenders coming out of our rectum to the point that we repurposed one into a makeshift key forward last week, and that’s with 2x best 22 tall defenders unavailable for selection.

We had a chance to get an extra elite midfield talent and passed it up to draft a super talent - no argument there - but with no obvious position at AFL level and who we clearly don’t know how to use.



If this happens, then great. What is abundantly clear though is that it won’t be the current powers that be who do this.



I’m not making judgment. I deliberately used the words “shaping up to be” because it’s early days.

I’m not saying I expected him to win the Brownlow or even the Rising Star in year one. But I’d rather hoped that by June we’d be in a position where the best that could be said is something more than “don’t rush to judgment”.



Given the strategic disaster of passing up a shot at an elite mid to take someone who they obviously don’t consider to be a mid (followed by the acknowledgment of the weakness of our midfield that is implicit in a 10 year offer to Gulden) - Curtin would need to be a serious difference maker for history to look kindly on this.

If he doesn’t make it, the opportunity cost of picking him makes it worse than McAsey.



If this is true it changes everything. But everything I had heard was that it was proposed to be a straight swap. I wouldn’t have a clue of course which is why it is all qualified by “if it happened”.
 
Kind of amazing that people feel like you can actually make a judgement on Dan Curtin as a draft pick at this stage. It's his first year, we won't know how good he is for some time.

Personally I'm confident he'll be a good pickup, but all we are really doing is guessing when you're talking about a 19 year old tall.
LOL ....13 games into a season ....and buyer's remorse has already kicked in

Curtin could easily have gone Pick #2 .....but alas, because it's ADEL that drafted him .....it's another failed pick

Never change supporters
 
LOL ....13 games into a season ....and buyer's remorse has already kicked in

Curtin could easily have gone Pick #2 .....but alas, because it's ADEL that drafted him .....it's another failed pick

Never change supporters
But he didn’t though did he, that’s just a dumb point.

Where do you see him playing long term with the Crows?
 
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