Give Parker a 2 year deal to come home and move into a coaching role.
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Diehard Saint
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Come on, hes an adult.
Going bc you’re getting an “I just can’t refuse offer” is understandable.
Or if you’re not happy.
Going just because you supported a club as a kid - surely not.
I can understand a draftee wanting to go to the club they supported as a kid. But he’s been at the club for years now.
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So I’m a big yes to Parker and continuing to bring in older experienced players past prime on the cheap. It seems the cheapest and most effective solution to having no middle age bracket players to guide the youth. One per year on two year deals would be ideal for 3-4 years.
Players like Parker, Pendles, Goldstein ect.
Players like Parker, Pendles, Goldstein ect.
To be fair, this happens everywhere now.. football is a business now as well.. through free agency, players are free to choose clubs as well.. the days of 1 club player are long gone..
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Media still reporting Tyson Stengle might be gettable at the right price.
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That’s an agent trying to get his client more money.
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I've suggested it before. I think he'd be a great bridge between the kid we draft and the time it takes them to develop. He's a very competent forward so could finish his career as a high half forward and probably play another 2 or 3 seasons.
I'd be looking at Ted Clohesy, Will Phillips, Lazzaro, Josh Ward, Ben Hobbs types too.
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Geelong sound like they are lowballing him. He's worth looking at if Battle signs. Worst case it stretches Geelong's cap.
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Of course they are but if coaches don't have good relationships with players performance will suffer. Lyon sounds like he was loved by his past players despite the tough love but this generation is a different breed. He's going to have to adapt like all other coaches.
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I love this post. NFI what it means but I love it long time.
For a list that only has 2 consistent and competent mids in Steele and Crouch (1 of them were injured this year), ours is pretty bad..
How many of our list can hit a target consistently under pressure (Most of the Collingwood, Carlton, GWS etc teams can), I counted Nas, Sinclair. Even Hill has been a nervous wreck since joining us 4 years ago.
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What Parker also needs to do is mentor Owens, Philipou and Windhager, I’m not sure Steele is a great midfield mentor. He is not a ball hunter to start with, he is more defensive mid.
Leave him to Essendon.. Butler, Higgins with Collard and Hotton developing should be good enough
Exactly, we should stock up on midfield players (18 yo, young or experienced), really just add more than we need and let the cream rise to the top, rather than just recruiting 1 or 2 and hope they work out perfectly which they never will.
Good thing Darylmple also thinks building midfield is the key to a successful team, not just playing fantasy football.
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Yuck. Butler has a degenerative ankle and Higgins and Hotton aren't small pressure forwards. I'd be chasing Stengle hard. Probably keeps us in the finals race this year if we had him. Collard also touch and go to stay in Melbourne.
We should be drafting some small forwards and chasing Stengle. After the midfield it's our weakest area.
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A premiership Cat is being circled by rival clubs on big-money offers. Will he chase the cash or stay loyal to the club which took a chance on him?
Stengle, who is a free agent at the end of the season, is looking to land a big-money deal to set himself up for life with offers of between $800,000-$850,000 per year believed to have been floated.
Essendon and St Kilda are both cashed up and looking to improve their forward line with the silky skills of Stengle, an attractive proposition.
While the Cats remain confident he will stay at GMHBA Stadium, they won’t be countering any big offers and are likely to be at least $150,000 short, possibly more, than some of the numbers being bandied about.
![Essendon and St Kilda are among the clubs brandishing big-money offers to premiership Cat [PLAYERCARD]Tyson Stengle[/PLAYERCARD]. Picture: Brendon Thorne/AFL Photos/via Getty Images.](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigfooty.com%2Fforum%2Fsafari-reader%253A%2F%2Farchive.md%2FbRKZR%2F9cb191d73f601ed97bbacd63490df0c6afc32ad4.jpg&hash=c2a5dfcdea8257b4f4c665e9dd6ed299 "Essendon and St Kilda are among the clubs brandishing big-money offers to premiership Cat [PLAYERCARD]Tyson Stengle[/PLAYERCARD]. Picture: Brendon Thorne/AFL Photos/via Getty Images.")
Essendon and St Kilda are among the clubs brandishing big-money offers to premiership Cat Tyson Stengle. Picture: Brendon Thorne/AFL Photos/via Getty Images.
The 25-year-old was one of the Cats best against Sydney last week, kicking three goals to take his season’s tally to 27 from 13 games.
Stengle was one of the fairytale stories of Geelong’s 2022 premiership victory having been on the AFL scrap heap after being traded from Richmond and then struggling with off-field issues during his two seasons at Adelaide.
The Cats plucked him out of the SANFL with the move a masterstroke as he put together an incredible season, kicking 53 goals and earning All-Australian selection.
He struggled last year with form and injury, only kicking 27 goals from 19 games.
Geelong is banking on the fact they gave Stengle a chance when no-one else would as a key leverage in negotiations but rivals believe cash might win over loyalty in this scenario.
“Don’t forget Geelong is his third club and there is a real sense that the highest bidder will get him,” one AFL list manager said.
Adding intrigue to the situation is Stengle’s unusual management set-up with his guardian, Anna Scullie, the wife of Eddie Betts, managing his affairs.
![[PLAYERCARD]Tyson Stengle[/PLAYERCARD] of the Cats is attracting big-money offers. Picture: Graham Denholm/Getty Images)](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigfooty.com%2Fforum%2Fsafari-reader%253A%2F%2Farchive.md%2FbRKZR%2F0ac4bc5c5ada5dfc82462c37dc6c3cf28cc5e024.jpg&hash=303f1c839453392c9688208218bd1a72 "[PLAYERCARD]Tyson Stengle[/PLAYERCARD] of the Cats is attracting big-money offers. Picture: Graham Denholm/Getty Images)")
Tyson Stengle of the Cats is attracting big-money offers. Picture: Graham Denholm/Getty Images)
She negotiated his one-year contract extension last season and while Scullie isn’t an official AFL accredited agent the league has granted her special permission to act on Stengle’s behalf.
While Betts and Stengle only played together for a season at Adelaide, the AFL legend is a close mentor and the Cats forward spends several nights a week at the family’s Melbourne home.
Interestingly, the laid-back country vibe of Geelong which has been a major attraction in luring players – like Jeremy Cameron – isn’t such an attractive part for Stengle who is believed to at times have been restless living in regional city.
A recent quote by Scullie raised eyebrows among clubs about this issue: “It would be ideal if he stays there,” she said. “He’s playing good footy with the team around him. We will likely go for a long-term deal. But we have to take into consideration that Geelong can be isolating.”
Stengle would be a perfect fit for Essendon who are looking to elevate into a premiership contender with their current small forward stocks relying on a combination of Matt Guelfi, Alwyn Davey and Jye Menzie.
St Kilda are also desperate to up its scoring power with Stengle the perfect foil alongside Max King and would be an upgrade from the current smalls like Dan Butler and Jack Higgins.
Battle has emerged as one of Hawthorn’s top recruiting targets to bolster the back half after Sam Mitchell’s men last year missed out on Port Adelaide’s Esava Ratugolea and Bomber Ben McKay.
The Hawks have considerable room in their salary cap to secure mature-age talent after a hot run over the past five weeks, catapulting them back into finals contention.
But the Saints will make Battle, 25, a priority signing towards the end of the season after another strong season in the back half.
The Saints recently signed up Jack Sinclair and Callum Sinclair to contract extensions to help reward some of their most important players.
But Dougal Howard, Seb Ross, Zak Jones and Tim Membrey face uncertain futures.
![The Hawks are coming hard for [PLAYERCARD]Josh Battle[/PLAYERCARD]. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)](/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigfooty.com%2Fforum%2Fsafari-reader%253A%2F%2Farchive.md%2FbRKZR%2F59efb9283228338d3a9d0a69ad421e52c08e95c1.jpg&hash=1fcbbbfaa43eba030663fb8f17530ee7 "The Hawks are coming hard for [PLAYERCARD]Josh Battle[/PLAYERCARD]. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)")
The Hawks are coming hard for Josh Battle. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)
Brisbane has advanced talks with the Lions midfielder and wingman in recent weeks and is confident a deal is only weeks away.
The free agent has always wanted to stay at the Lions and the club is aware it might have to eventually hand him a deal as long as five seasons.
Last week Hugh McCluggage and Will Hayward re-signed at their existing clubs, with Brandon Parfitt keen to stay at Geelong and Conor Nash keen to remain at Hawthorn.
The Hawks’ new long-term deal with Blake Hardwick is the farthest advanced of their contract talks with 198ch mid Nash and dasher Changkuoth Jiath, who wants to prove his worth after returning from injury.
But clubs flush with cash don’t seem keen on Western Bulldogs ruckman Tim English, which puts St Kilda’s Josh Battle among the most sought-after free agents.
Hawthorn is chasing him as his contract talks drift.
Ben Ainsworth is keen to stay at Gold Coast after being well paid across his career as a top 10 draft pick and his management has not sought out rival interest, which has to be a good sign for him staying despite Essendon’s interest.
Stengle, who is a free agent at the end of the season, is looking to land a big-money deal to set himself up for life with offers of between $800,000-$850,000 per year believed to have been floated.
Essendon and St Kilda are both cashed up and looking to improve their forward line with the silky skills of Stengle, an attractive proposition.
While the Cats remain confident he will stay at GMHBA Stadium, they won’t be countering any big offers and are likely to be at least $150,000 short, possibly more, than some of the numbers being bandied about.
Essendon and St Kilda are among the clubs brandishing big-money offers to premiership Cat Tyson Stengle. Picture: Brendon Thorne/AFL Photos/via Getty Images.
The 25-year-old was one of the Cats best against Sydney last week, kicking three goals to take his season’s tally to 27 from 13 games.
Stengle was one of the fairytale stories of Geelong’s 2022 premiership victory having been on the AFL scrap heap after being traded from Richmond and then struggling with off-field issues during his two seasons at Adelaide.
The Cats plucked him out of the SANFL with the move a masterstroke as he put together an incredible season, kicking 53 goals and earning All-Australian selection.
He struggled last year with form and injury, only kicking 27 goals from 19 games.
Geelong is banking on the fact they gave Stengle a chance when no-one else would as a key leverage in negotiations but rivals believe cash might win over loyalty in this scenario.
“Don’t forget Geelong is his third club and there is a real sense that the highest bidder will get him,” one AFL list manager said.
Adding intrigue to the situation is Stengle’s unusual management set-up with his guardian, Anna Scullie, the wife of Eddie Betts, managing his affairs.
Tyson Stengle of the Cats is attracting big-money offers. Picture: Graham Denholm/Getty Images)
She negotiated his one-year contract extension last season and while Scullie isn’t an official AFL accredited agent the league has granted her special permission to act on Stengle’s behalf.
While Betts and Stengle only played together for a season at Adelaide, the AFL legend is a close mentor and the Cats forward spends several nights a week at the family’s Melbourne home.
Interestingly, the laid-back country vibe of Geelong which has been a major attraction in luring players – like Jeremy Cameron – isn’t such an attractive part for Stengle who is believed to at times have been restless living in regional city.
A recent quote by Scullie raised eyebrows among clubs about this issue: “It would be ideal if he stays there,” she said. “He’s playing good footy with the team around him. We will likely go for a long-term deal. But we have to take into consideration that Geelong can be isolating.”
Stengle would be a perfect fit for Essendon who are looking to elevate into a premiership contender with their current small forward stocks relying on a combination of Matt Guelfi, Alwyn Davey and Jye Menzie.
St Kilda are also desperate to up its scoring power with Stengle the perfect foil alongside Max King and would be an upgrade from the current smalls like Dan Butler and Jack Higgins.
SAINTS LOOK TO FEND OFF HAWKS
St Kilda remains confident it will fight off a big-money bid from Hawthorn to poach gun defender and star free agent Josh Battle.Battle has emerged as one of Hawthorn’s top recruiting targets to bolster the back half after Sam Mitchell’s men last year missed out on Port Adelaide’s Esava Ratugolea and Bomber Ben McKay.
The Hawks have considerable room in their salary cap to secure mature-age talent after a hot run over the past five weeks, catapulting them back into finals contention.
But the Saints will make Battle, 25, a priority signing towards the end of the season after another strong season in the back half.
The Saints recently signed up Jack Sinclair and Callum Sinclair to contract extensions to help reward some of their most important players.
But Dougal Howard, Seb Ross, Zak Jones and Tim Membrey face uncertain futures.
The Hawks are coming hard for Josh Battle. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)
LIONS LOOK TO LOCK UP ANOTHER
The pool of quality free agents continues to shrink alarmingly for rival suitors with Brisbane’s Jarrod Berry sure to be one of the next names taken off the board.Brisbane has advanced talks with the Lions midfielder and wingman in recent weeks and is confident a deal is only weeks away.
The free agent has always wanted to stay at the Lions and the club is aware it might have to eventually hand him a deal as long as five seasons.
Last week Hugh McCluggage and Will Hayward re-signed at their existing clubs, with Brandon Parfitt keen to stay at Geelong and Conor Nash keen to remain at Hawthorn.
The Hawks’ new long-term deal with Blake Hardwick is the farthest advanced of their contract talks with 198ch mid Nash and dasher Changkuoth Jiath, who wants to prove his worth after returning from injury.
But clubs flush with cash don’t seem keen on Western Bulldogs ruckman Tim English, which puts St Kilda’s Josh Battle among the most sought-after free agents.
Hawthorn is chasing him as his contract talks drift.
Ben Ainsworth is keen to stay at Gold Coast after being well paid across his career as a top 10 draft pick and his management has not sought out rival interest, which has to be a good sign for him staying despite Essendon’s interest.
Essendon and Collingwood the neverv ending Salary Cap.
Also if we land him there goes any band 1 for Battle
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Small forwards also need a dominant midfield and functional forward line.. Stengel kicked 53 goals in 2022 premiership year, 27 goals in a down year last year.. Plus he averages 2 tackles a game this year, hardly a pressure forward. Personal choice, prefer a fit Butler to Stengel.
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Won’t Happen if they lose Battle.
Higgins is a leading small forward
Butler is a pressure forward
Stengele is more of a crumbing forward
He would be excellent if his head was in the right place, but not at Josh Battle money IMO
Butler is a pressure forward
Stengele is more of a crumbing forward
He would be excellent if his head was in the right place, but not at Josh Battle money IMO
Happy the club has signed the Sinclair brothers Jack and Callum too.
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Well they need the ball to come inside 50 but guys like Stengle feed off scraps. He's more of a finisher than a pressure forward I guess. Butler is getting physically unreliable so unless we think he's likely to play most games for the next 4 years we need to be planning on how to score without him. I'd rather 3 small forwards in the side than too many tall forwards either way.
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