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Like prescribing a course of leeches to an anaemic.
Given the West's strike rate wouldn't be suprised to see him appointed soon, but they're reporting Pyke has turned down Nisbetts job
Very interesting.
If correct, The Worst do indeed still have a reliable source within the club (highly doubtful).
If incorrect, someone within the club has toed the club line and fed them a red herring.
No mention of Pyke resigning on the Sydney Swans forum as all they are discussing there is as to who they can get to replace him.
So doesn't want it, or eagles flagged a longer process with no guarantees. Or we are going to be stupid and allow Nizbitt to see out his entire contract so Pyke knows he can wait.
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The article said that they haven't even given him any detailed information on the gig, let alone had a preliminary interview/meeting with him. Nor have they had preliminary meetings with anybody else. My take on it is that they are not, and were never planning to, even begin looking for anybody until the second half of next season. The presser with Nisbett was just a bull**** circuit breaker. They wanted to break the cycle of negative media and also come up wit a talking point or counter argument (both for now and next season) against the claim that they have not made significant internal changes in response to two disastrous seasons. The tip off or tell that this was just a stunt to try and manipulate media coverage of the club came a couple of days later when that Beta male Chairman made the comment that it was possible that Nisbett would still be the CEO at the end of next season and they may even need to extend his contract if nobody who is deemed a suitable replacement is found.
If you were Pyke you would be wondering how serious these people actually are and what to believe of anything they say. You would be doubting if Nisbett is actually going or if they are going to look for a short period of relative sunshine at some point next season after we win a couple of games where supporters are distracted and feeling happy to then quietly renew him. If you were Pyke you would tell them to call you when they have an actual firm leaving date for Nisbett and until then you would just forget about them.
If you were Pyke you would be wondering how serious these people actually are and what to believe of anything they say. You would be doubting if Nisbett is actually going or if they are going to look for a short period of relative sunshine at some point next season after we win a couple of games where supporters are distracted and feeling happy to then quietly renew him. If you were Pyke you would tell them to call you when they have an actual firm leaving date for Nisbett and until then you would just forget about them.
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My take on it is the West has content to put out, and it may or may not have any basis in reality.
This is the same rag that’s had back page splashes for an “emergency board meeting” that turned out to be a pre-planned corporate sponsors lunch, and a fire sale of Darling/Duggan/Yeo that was seemingly based off some rando calling Trade Radio.
This is the same rag that’s had back page splashes for an “emergency board meeting” that turned out to be a pre-planned corporate sponsors lunch, and a fire sale of Darling/Duggan/Yeo that was seemingly based off some rando calling Trade Radio.
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Can see where this is going. I predict we'll do a half-arsed search for a new CEO, not a appoint anyone and then around the bye next year Eddie will start to put out there that his "sources" say that Trev will stay on indefinitely until we find the right person to take on his role.
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His contract still has 12 months to run
It seems like longer, but it’s only been about 6 weeks since it was officially announced he was retiring. Perhaps because it had been hinted at well before then
Pyke has an existing role at Sydney meaning we’d need to appoint him now to avoid him leaving the Swans in the lurch by departing mid season or during preseason
If we appointed Pyke now it would be hard to argue we’d done an extensive search
It’d be nice to replace Trev sooner rather than later but given it’s such an important appointment it’s not one that should be rushed
Pyke can still take over at the end of the 2024 season if he’s identified as the best fit after an exhaustive process
My preferred option remains a dual role with an existing executive promoted to concentrate on the commercial side of the club’s operations and someone with a football background (like Pyke) brought in to oversee football operations
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Stop being so sensible about things, it's the off-season ffs, the perfect time to melt over stupid shit!
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Would this mean there’s no CEO? Or the CEO role is split?
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The GM of football should oversee the footy ops. If Gavin Bell is not up to it, then he should be moved on.
The CEO is the leader of the organisation. I don't see how it would work with two people sharing the role - who would be in charge?
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Bell is still relatively new in the role and was probably thrown in too early due to the soft cap when Vozzo left.
Let him develop
One person in charge overall but with another as 2IC who’s focus is on football - it effectively gets someone into the football department but by installing him as part of admin it should be able to get around the soft cap
Define the boundaries so there’s no crossover of duties and they’re each in charge of their own area(s)
Nisbett has been in charge of too much and it’s shown. Splitting makes sense
I heard from a number of sources that King Nissie I struggled in delegation. No need to split the role, just empower your direct reports. No need for the CEO to be in list management discussions. That is managing at the wrong level. Better to have the List Manager reporting to the Board twice a year on where the list is at and where we will be in 1, 3 and 5 years.
What has complicated things in recent years is the introduction of the AFLW team. Do you wrap them up within the men's Football operations or do you have a separate line of reporting? Benefits to both. I would have thought a lot of lap over with physio, S&C, etc but importantly they are not the same for both genders.
The CEO really needs a strong head of commercial portfolio. I would suggest that the club create a separate role for membership, fan base and fan engagement.
Main assets:
Our playing list (past, present and future meaning we include the academies)
Our members
Our financial strength
Our facilities
Our staff
These all need to be directly reporting to the CEO
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Not making excuses, I want him gone asap.
But I guess when you’ve come through the ranks as football manager etc, that’s probably more your passion than the other stuff, so you like being involved in it…
Individuals manage themselves
Supervisors manage others
Managers manage processes
Top leaders manage outcomes
How can a leader manage great outcomes when they mix up passion with empowerment?
One of the most important roles of a great leader is to develop the next generation leaders. Hello Toddy!
We cave been a successful club but with all 3 teams languishing at the bottom for 2 to 3 years, the board and the CEO need to take a good hard look at themselves. They have become ineffective because they are stale or the requirements of the job have become too onerous.
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Prior is stepping down.
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He is still with the club in another role lol
Had to happen after he humiliated himself and the team after the Melbourne game.
Now keep him away from the men's team.
Now keep him away from the men's team.
Yuck - seen that happen a lot in the workplace. I guess it’s only natural but yuck
