Preview Changes: R7 v Carlton

[ftmch]

Hmmm... spate of hamstrings. Poholke omitted so club happy to omit young players if required. Yet Knight managed. Smells like a hamstring to me. Hopefully more of the awareness than ping.

Are you really comparing Poholke to Knight?

 

[Geoffa32]

Matthew Lloyd the other day said when Essendon had a raft of soft-tissue injuries the other season there was nothing that could be done to reverse the 'work' that had happened in the pre-season

he predicted Adelaide's season to be de-railed by many more hamstrings to come

They had a less WADA compliment reason for all those hamstring and soft tissue issues.....

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[Redleg Crow]

Interesting stats from the Hurling People Now guys
http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=28925

According to their measures, we have the 3rd best attack, 5th best defence, but just the 13th best midfield.

 

[HarryCrow]

Are you really comparing Poholke to Knight?

I'm saying the club would not be afraid to omit Knight.
He's injured. Hopefully mildly.

 

[DJ75]

Interesting stats from the Hurling People Now guys
http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=28925

According to their measures, we have the 3rd best attack, 5th best defence, but just the 13th best midfield.

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Most of our midfield is out injured so that seems like a pretty good result!

 

[hey shorty]

Matthew Lloyd the other day said when Essendon had a raft of soft-tissue injuries the other season there was nothing that could be done to reverse the 'work' that had happened in the pre-season

he predicted Adelaide's season to be de-railed by many more hamstrings to come

That's plain wrong, it's not global warming FFS.

 

[CrowBloke]

If you are gonna drag me into this can we at least spell skeptic correctly?

Some of my best mates are Septic Tanks, but I wouldn't call them skeptics.

 

[MRB37]

Carlton talking up their chances. Sounds like they're gonna copy what the Pies did.

 

[CrowBloke]

That doesn't sound right to me

= what jaytex said, bloody funny.

 

[CrowBloke]

Or you could not and not lose $100.

Win-win.
I'd pay $100 if it guaranteed that the Crows hammer Carlton.
I'd also be pretty happy to get $1300 if they lost, just not happy they lost is all.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Interesting stats from the Hurling People Now guys
http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=28925

According to their measures, we have the 3rd best attack, 5th best defence, but just the 13th best midfield.

View attachment 492015

Our midfield this season has consisted of Gibbs, Greenwood, CEY and whoever isn't injured (or suspended in Dougie's case). So I'm not surprised that we've been the 13th ranked midfield. When the Crouches, Sloane and Gibbs are all playing together and not carrying an injury I expect that rating to improve.

 

[mistylake]

No, the threshold is someone coming back from injury shouldn't need to be "managed" after just two games. This isn't a typical plan for our players and the only times I can think of players getting managed so soon after returning is when a player is brought back too soon (eg. Jenkins, B. Crouch in recent years). Or maybe when we want to play Scott Thompson, leading to Greenwood getting "rested".


In any case, why does Riley Knight, who is "a bit sore" according to the club, need to be "managed" when a completely stuffed Rory Sloane gets the all clear to play against Collingwood?

Why have we chosen Riley Knight as the player to get this "management" after a bit of soreness (note that he's not listed as injured), when we've happily played Sloane, Jenkins, Brad Crouch, Brown, Hartigan, Greenwood, etc. when they aren't 100%, often to the detriment of their fitness down the track?

You ask the question about Rory Sloane as if you don’t know what he’s made of. Rory is a tough so and so. To his own detriment and the team he tried but was found out.
I recon Riley has come back a few games too early, because the cupboard was bare and is feeling it and they want to rest him for a week so he can perform v Port Adelaide. It fully makes sense to do this against Carlton, however we still need to go at this game as seriously as any and all opposition, or we’ll get rolled for sure.

 

[Bicks]

Interesting stats from the Hurling People Now guys
http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=28925

According to their measures, we have the 3rd best attack, 5th best defence, but just the 13th best midfield.

View attachment 492015

Out of interest where is the Swans' midfield that our 2nd stringers carved up rated??

 

[hey shorty]

Out of interest where is the Swans' midfield that our 2nd stringers carved up rated??

Just above ours.

 

[Shaz2012]

It’s also possible that Riley Knight isn’t first choice in any role. He might have made way for Betts with Gallucci preferred.

Small forwards: Eddie Betts, Gallucci, Murphy and Knight for 2 spots.

Midfield: Douglas, Greenwood, CEY, Knight for 2 spots

Then there are the questions of Mackay vs Knight and even Atkins vs Knight.

 

[cmndstab]

You think players agree with all the selection calls a club makes? Especially those that result in them sitting out of the team?

What if we play well this week and have Sloane to come back in next week? Possession is nine tenths the law as Knight and all the players would well know. No one would want to miss, especially someone near the fringes like Knight.

Or he's injured and better off not playing at all in which case he shouldn't be an emergency.

I'm sure players don't always agree with the decisions the club makes - but I don't think the club is trying to bamboozle them. They'd be telling Knight precisely why he's being managed, and what needs to happen for him to be back in the team.

Or, alternatively, he is injured and he and the club both know it, but they're spinning the message for the fans. I can buy that as a possibility, although it's not what I think's happening here.

I don't buy for a second that the club are sitting in a meeting room somewhere saying "let's come up with a fake reason to placate Riley Knight so we can play an extra defender". That would be ridiculous.

 

[Bicks]

It’s also possible that Riley Knight isn’t first choice in any role. He might have made way for Betts with Gallucci preferred.

Small forwards: Eddie Betts, Gallucci, Murphy and Knight for 2 spots.

Midfield: Douglas, Greenwood, CEY, Knight for 2 spots

Then there are the questions of Mackay vs Knight and even Atkins vs Knight.

It's also possible he's just being "managed" as unlikely as it appears to some on the BF board.

 

[Vader]

I don't even buy the argument that they've named an extra defender. Milera has been named on the HBF, and Mackay on the wing. I know the selectors like to play ducks & drakes with where they name the players on the field, but on this occasion I think they've actually named them in position. I expect Mackay to return to the wing, where he's played most of his football over the last 2-3 years.

I think we've named 7 defenders, which is entirely normal for an AFC team. Talia, Otten, Doedee, Laird, Kelly, Brown, Milera.

 

[PasswordisTaco]

It's also possible he's just being "managed" as unlikely as it appears to some on the BF board.

Really not understanding why it's so hard to believe. Had stuff all pre-season, and while his stats may not reflect it he's worked his arse off these last two games. It really is simple, if we absolutely had to play him we would but we'd much rather he's ripe for the showdown.

 

[footy4ever]

It's also possible he's just being "managed" as unlikely as it appears to some on the BF board.

It's a conspiracy I tells ya!

"Hart also dismissed speculation forward Riley Knight was the latest Crows player to be riddled by the club's hamstring crisis.

"No hamstring (injury), it is purely management," Hart said.

"Players don't like to miss games by being managed, but it's in the betterment for him.

"We think he's in our best side going forward and we'd like to have him for a long time."

Knight is expected to return next week to face the Power."

 

[Shaz2012]

It's also possible he's just being "managed" as unlikely as it appears to some on the BF board.

I think he is being managed. But I don’t see why the omission is being viewed as such a big deal. It’s not like he is a walk up starter.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I don't buy for a second that the club are sitting in a meeting room somewhere saying "let's come up with a fake reason to placate Riley Knight so we can play an extra defender". That would be ridiculous.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that they've got 23 players to fit into 22 spots. And they had to come up with a plausible reason to land on Knight rather than make a tougher call by dropping a regular player (Kelly, Mackay, Otten) from down back.

 

[Bicks]

I think he is being managed. But I don’t see why the omission is being viewed as such a big deal. It’s not like he is a walk up starter.

See above, one of the coaching staff seem to think different.

 

[Shaz2012]

See above, one of the coaching staff seem to think different.

He thinks he will be. He might be. But he hasn’t earnt that yet.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I don't even buy the argument that they've named an extra defender. Milera has been named on the HBF, and Mackay on the wing. I know the selectors like to play ducks & drakes with where they name the players on the field, but on this occasion I think they've actually named them in position. I expect Mackay to return to the wing, where he's played most of his football over the last 2-3 years.

Seedsman and Atkins have been playing well on the wings. Maybe one of them will move for Mackay but it would be a shame to tinker with something that is working.