List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  6.9

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  2.8

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  T

  2.9

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  CL

  1.4

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  D

  12.7

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  9.2

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  3.0

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  2.7

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[mat11]

Can anyone tell me how Rioli is worth pick 5 in terms of trade value. Suns would be massively overpaying surely.

Hes not, Sun's have 5, 7(Lombard bid),13, 20 they can throw anything at anyone no matter how crazy it is. The drafts a rort

 

[eaglevision]

Some absolutely cracking CTL games on tomorrow if anyone is interested. Almost all the big guns are playing.

FOS, Jagga and Gross vs MReid, Ashcroft and possible 1R picks Armstrong and Oliver in Chargers vs Sandy would be my pick, even though Sandy should win.

Ludowyke will also go early next year.

 

[KBLT]

Should be getting in Ed Allen's ear asap. Probably still behind all the old heads in the Wobbles midfield next year, looks a talent.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Listening to todays episode of Back Chat at the moment and at around 30 minutes Hammer, Dan and Schoey were talking about Freo have to choose between Bolton and Warner and Schofield in like in a serious tone says Warner will be at West Coast at some point, he'll come home and will be at the Eagles...I know he's a cynically dry joker most of the time but he actually looked and sounded serious around it..so just a little something to think about.

Dont know if i want Warner if it means we miss out on 2 WA boys next year
Fred Rodriguez and Sam Swadling
If we can get Hawks future first and our natural first we should be able to get both
Swadling would give us a elite wingman again, and Rodriguez is a natural centreman
Both would be very very good pick ups

 

[eaglespremiers]

Some absolutely cracking CTL games on tomorrow if anyone is interested. Almost all the big guns are playing.

FOS, Jagga and Gross vs MReid, Ashcroft and possible 1R picks Armstrong and Oliver in Chargers vs Sandy would be my pick, even though Sandy should win.

Ludowyke will also go early next year.

Also James Barrat vs Jack Whitlock and (potentially) Jobe Shanahan vs Matt Whitlock and Joe Berry vs Tobie Travaglia (who is playing HBF tomorrow).

 

[chaddy22]

Baker for a dozen would be funny but would also rather see the club fold and Dark Sharks delete his account if we do that deal

Baker for 13 is even funnier.

 

[eaglevision]

Also James Barrat vs Jack Whitlock and (potentially) Jobe Shanahan vs Matt Whitlock and Joe Berry vs Tobie Travaglia (who is playing HBF tomorrow).

Travaglia vs Berry will be an outstanding battle if that’s the match up. Both will have to be very accountable.

 

[Keys]

Rioli and Bolton are both contracted so for the same reasons we're
claiming Barrass should attract a trade premium, so too should those two

Baker, however, is uncontracted so doesn’t warrant the same premium

 

[eaglespremiers]

Rioli and Bolton are both contracted so for the same reasons we're
claiming Barrass should attract a trade premium, so too should those two

In fairness, one of those is not like the others.
I mean, Tom Cole is contracted but we're not arguing that he's worth the fifth pick of the draft.

 

[stallon]

Rioli and Bolton are both contracted so for the same reasons we're
claiming Barrass should attract a trade premium, so too should those two

Baker, however, is uncontracted so doesn’t warrant the same premium

Agree, but Rioli is worth no more than Barrass. Some of the claims of his value going around are just pure fantasy

 

[Hillsy13]

Darling plus f2 to pies for Ed Allan? No way they’d accept that but wishful thinking. Chesser was a pies fan if we ever do want to do a straight swap


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[Schtinker]

Where is dark sharks?

He doesn't have an account.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Should be getting in Ed Allen's ear asap. Probably still behind all the old heads in the Wobbles midfield next year, looks a talent.

The Pies are the oldest team in footy and have had absolute nothing from half a decade of draft classes now. Yes, even when factoring in a top-five talent in Daicos for free.

They simply can't afford to let anyone go, especially not someone in Allen's age bracket. The cliff is coming so fast, in a way I'm not sure people acknowledge enough.

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Games played at Collingwood (Draftees 2019-2024)
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Players drafted: 27
Players still on list: 15
Average games (all players): 18.1 games
Average games (National draft): 16.6 games
Average games (National draft excluding N. Daicos): 13.5 games

2024
MSD Iliro Smit - 0
MSD Ned Long - 0

2023
Pick 25 - Harry Demattia - 0
Pick 37 - Tew Jiath - 1

2022
Pick 19 - Ed Allen - 2
Pick 28 - Jakob Ryan - 1
Pick 48 - Joe Richards - 9 (four year deal on the table from Port)
MSD - Josh Carmichael - 1

2021
Pick 4 - Nick Daicos - 70
Pick 45 - Arlo Draper - 0
Pick 49 - Cooper Murley - 0
Pick 52 - Harvey Harrison - 16
Rookie - Charlie Dean - 8
Rookie - Isaac Chugg - 2
MSD - Ash Johnson - 27
MSD - Aiden Begg - 3

2020
Pick 17 - Ollie Henry - 25 (now at Geelong)
Pick 19 - Finn McRae - 21
Pick 23 - Reef McIness - 20
Pick 30 - Caleb Poulter - 12 (now at Western Bulldogs)
Pick 31 - Liam McMahon - 0
Pick 44 - Beau McCreery - 77
Rookie - Jack Ginnivan - 42 (now at Hawthorn)

2019
Pick 40 - Jay Rantal - 5
Pick 45 - Trent Bianco - 23
Pick 55 - Trey Ruscoe - 18
MSD - John Noble - 107

 

[Art OF war]

Listening to todays episode of Back Chat at the moment and at around 30 minutes Hammer, Dan and Schoey were talking about Freo have to choose between Bolton and Warner and Schofield in like in a serious tone says Warner will be at West Coast at some point, he'll come home and will be at the Eagles...I know he's a cynically dry joker most of the time but he actually looked and sounded serious around it..so just a little something to think about.

I’ve heard the same thing for a while. Chad’s preference is home to the eagles

 

[DRK_13]

Peatling would be a walk up starter in our midfield next year for sure, would free up Kelly a bit to play off HFF and allows Hewett/Reid to rotate in and out of the midfield and forward with Kelly. Can take Duggan out of there and move him back to the wing or to half back where he and Gov can be our 2 defensive leaders

Hes a strong defensive mid who tackles a lot and a perfect age. Absolutely ideal target hes priority #1 for me

Agreed with this.
Peatling would be a fantastic fit for our midfield.
Him with the runoured addition of Jack Graham (for free), we can expect some massive improvements already in the midfield department on the defensive side... and hopefully some added protection for Harley

 

[EdCurnowRules]

In fairness, one of those is not like the others.
I mean, Tom Cole is contracted but we're not arguing that he's worth the fifth pick of the draft.

But he is

 

[Cornelius Roy]

What’s the mechanism for Blight? If he doesn’t extend his six month MSD contract do we have to trade.

 

[Chris_6678]

What’s the mechanism for Blight? If he doesn’t extend his six month MSD contract do we have to trade.

Think he ends up as DFA?

 

[eaglevision]

Think he ends up as DFA?

What’s the mechanism for Blight? If he doesn’t extend his six month MSD contract do we have to trade.

My understanding is if he is offered a contract by Richmond (like Baker) that he rejects then he would need to nominate and come via the PSD unless a trade was agreed upon.

If Richmond do not offer to extend his contract then yes, he would qualify as a DFA and could go to his club of choice.

 

[eaglevision]

https://www.aflplayers.com.au/app/uploads/2020/12/AFL_FREE_AGENCY_EXPLAINED_2019.pdf

Might be an updated one but this is how I thought it works.

 

[EagleEgo]

WA players invited to the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft Combine

First Name​	Surname​	Club​
Bo​	Allan​	Peel Thunder​
Cody​	Angove​	Claremont​
Jaxon​	Artemis​	South Fremantle​
Malakai​	Champion​	Subiaco​
Hamish​	Davis​	Claremont​
Clancy​	Dennis​	Claremont​
Kayle​	Gerreyn​	West Perth​
Will​	Hayes​	Claremont​
Aiden​	Riddle​	Claremont​
Luke​	Urquhart​	East Fremantle​

Wait and see how many of them picked this years

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I thought you couldn't trade rookie listed players?

 

[Elite Pete]

I thought you couldn't trade rookie listed players?

Pretty sure Mass was still on the Dons rookie list last year when he got traded to the Hawks

 

[Avalor]

Baker for 13 is even funnier.

Baker's dozen

 

[Avalor]

WA players invited to the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft Combine

First Name​	Surname​	Club​
Bo​	Allan​	Peel Thunder​
Cody​	Angove​	Claremont​
Jaxon​	Artemis​	South Fremantle​
Malakai​	Champion​	Subiaco​
Hamish​	Davis​	Claremont​
Clancy​	Dennis​	Claremont​
Kayle​	Gerreyn​	West Perth​
Will​	Hayes​	Claremont​
Aiden​	Riddle​	Claremont​
Luke​	Urquhart​	East Fremantle​

Wait and see how many of them picked this years

Some nice talent on that list. I hope we somehow end up with Bo Allan and Clancy Dennis. I like Artemis too.