List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Jukes]

MWT coming in with the angle that making McQualter coach is a good idea because it will help us bring in Baker and Graham. F**k me.

I hope we make Stephen King coach instead so we can get Parfitt across the line…

 

[bzparkes]

Allen is a WA boy and club captain- the likelihood of him leaving is low to the point of being non-existent. We also have plenty of salary cap room

Brayshaw doesn’t quite have those same local ties and Fremantle probably have less cap space, especially if they get Bolton. That said, I expect Brayshaw to stay with Freo

The whole family is in WA, based off Hamish:s comments the other week.

Considering they grew up early years in SA and Andy was a Port supporter, not really sure where he'd be going 'back' to to begin with.

 

[Tugga27]

Is Oscar unsigned after next year??? Same situation as Brayshaw... Get ready for the circus

And that's just from random260.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I think Richmond would be pretty keen to team Jagga and FOS together. I’d be pushing 3 and 23 for 6 and 9 if they get those picks in.

If saint get 2 x top 10 picks they would be another.

Richmond will turn 6 + 10 into 2 + ?

6 + 10 would give norf trainor + a KPF .

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Yeah right, the Jack Graham stuff is a bit weird.
I mean if they rate him then great, but it does seem an odd decision for a list in their shape, but fair enough.

Someone said Richmond had a function a couple of days ago and the photos have no rioli, Bolton or Baker but Graham was there in full tigers kit .

 

[eaglevision]

Richmond will turn 6 + 10 into 2 + ?

6 + 10 would give norf trainor + a KPF .

17 clubs would realise they need to draft a high end KPF and KPD…

Norf will draft FOS or Langford.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Allen is a WA boy and club captain- the likelihood of him leaving is low to the point of being non-existent. We also have plenty of salary cap room

Brayshaw doesn’t quite have those same local ties and Fremantle probably have less cap space, especially if they get Bolton. That said, I expect Brayshaw to stay with Freo

Brayshaw won't go back to Vic . WA is his home his family live here now .

What will happen though is clubs will throw some ridiculous coin at him and drive up his price

 

[Goomba1973]

1 year deals:
Rawlinson
Livingstone
Trew
Culley

Retire/delist:
JJ
Rotham
Witherden
Burgiel
Edwards
Gaff

Trade Ins:
Peatling- 23 + GWS give back 49
Kozzie- 12 + Hawks f1

Trade Outs:
Barass- 12 and Hawks f1
Darling- Pies 48

Draft:
3 - O'Sullivan
48 - Dennis
49 + 59 (445pts) = pick 39 Champion bid
Kozzie
Peatling
Graham (FA)

Best 23
Hough Edwards Cole
Duggan Gov Ginbey
Kelly Peatling Maric
Pickett Snake Long
Ryan Allen Jwilliams

Flynn Yeo Reid

O'Sullivan Graham Hutchinson Dewar
(Sub)Hewett

Sorry but no.... We should not be giving up any draft capital in the top 30 at all

 

[Goomba1973]

We need to be chasing a ruck surely.

We do but with English off the board there really isn't much available this year. We should be banking some future picks for next year and have a red hot go at Tom DeKoning.

 

[rebel23]

Allen is a WA boy and club captain- the likelihood of him leaving is low to the point of being non-existent. We also have plenty of salary cap room

Brayshaw doesn’t quite have those same local ties and Fremantle probably have less cap space, especially if they get Bolton. That said, I expect Brayshaw to stay with Freo

What if he gets shopped (Allen)?... Like barrass

 

[eaglevision]

We do but with English off the board there really isn't much available this year. We should be banking some future picks for next year and have a red hot go at Tom DeKoning.

TDK is a free agent next year so he’d come free of draft capital. Carlton couldn’t possibly match a financial offer from us too. I’m very keen but very unlikely.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

What if he gets shopped (Allen)?... Like barrass

Barrass didn't get shopped. He wanted more money and an extension and with his age we weren't willing to do that .

But we won't stand in his way if we are adequately compensated

 

[eaglevision]

I hope we’re chasing these deals:

Barnett for Soldo
Rotham and Culley for Blight and Smith
Ryan + salary for 20 & Davies (or 27 & Knobel)
B Williams, Darling + salary for 40, 58, 64
Petruccelle for Carroll or Garcia
F3 for Peatling + GWS F4
Parfitt via FA

 

[Eastern Rangers]

For the first three quarters of this game Gerreyn seemed to be waging a one man war against the entire Subiaco team. He dominated the ruck with deft tap work, he followed up at ground level with clean and skillful work by hand and foot, he kicked goals, and most impressively took a variety of strong marks around the ground. Just prior to the 3/4 time siren he copped a heavy knock, lay prone for a while and then had to come off bleeding and visibly groggy. It was extremely surprising to see him back out there in the final term, and he looked a shadow of his former self.

Lost the hit outs to a 17-year-old who is both shorter than him and is about 20kg lighter.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

That's alright, Travaglia will be better

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Not hard.

Joe Fonti is a much better prospect than Harderman.

 

[Goomba1973]

TDK is a free agent next year so he’d come free of draft capital. Carlton couldn’t possibly match a financial offer from us too. I’m very keen but very unlikely.

Ok ... I thought he was a restricted free agent next year... Either way we should not really try for a ruck this off season as there is nothing available. Hopefully Barnett comes along next season and we can get some games into him along with Flynn.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

 

[random260]

Just land a single fish for God sakes.

And a fish from richmond doesn't count

 

[Goomba1973]

Stubborn or loyal looking to pinch a flag as the 26th rated player?

If all he wanted was money and security then he'd be at the Eagles already.

He can stay at Bris, a 1 paced 18 mediocre possession mid that can't get a game doesn't even add much depth.....

 

[Keys]

There’s a finite list of reasons why players leave their club. In no particular order -

1) Better money/longer term contract
2) Go home factor
3) More games/game time
4) Team success

Peatling is a NSW product playing for a team smack bang in the premiership window so cross out 2 and 4 as reasons for him to leave GWS

Leaves money or opportunity as the triggers

We’d be able to offer as much, if not more, than other clubs

As for opportunity, he’d be a walk up starter in our midfield

Just why he’d go to the Bulldogs who’d be just as difficult a midfield to crack into as GWS would be a mystery. Might as well stay at GWS

Hopefully, Flynn can earn some of his pay this year by having a not so quiet word in Peatling’s ear

He’d be a very good pick up for us but one I’m not confident we can get at this stage of our rebuild

 

[Obeanie1]

So, we've extended Archer Reid by two years.
Personally happy with that.

But it raises a bit of a 'where do we fit him in?' type dilemma.
203cm tall forward.
1 - We've got O Allen. 196cm. Genuine KPF and good age.
2 - We've got Jake Waterman. Good age (at 26 a bit older than most of the others but in sweet age spot for what is lacking on our list), 2024 AA. At 191cm more of a 3rd tall but was very good overhead in 2024 and played well above his reported height.
3 - We've got J Williams. 198cm. Good age. Showed a fair bit in 2024 including a couple of 3 goal games.
4 - B Williams. 200cm. Ruck/forward. Like him or not he has to be in this discussion. Good age.
5 - Darling. At the end of his career but still has a forward presence. Obviously won't be part of our next finals era and probably sidelined a fair bit in 2025.

With Jamo and Flynn and Barnett as potential ruck options who can rest forward what do we do with all these tall forward/ruck play forward types?

Do we turn one of these guys into a KPD?
We're a bit lacking of lockdown talls down back if I'm honest. Barrass (Yes, I know) and Gov are two of the best intercept markers in the AFL, but neither are accountable, lock down types. They do a great job when allowed to peel off and use their own judgement, but when forced into a lock down role they are exposed.
Bomb it in long over 50-60m, laughing. Short pass 30m leaving Gov/Barrass another 30m away in no man's land and we as a team get caught out.

Is A Reid a potential KPD? Is Jamo? Or J Williams? Or Barnett?

Jamo hasn't come on as a ruck, but does he have what it takes to defend one on one?

How do we get games into Archer Reid? Looks like a better prospect than most.
If the (nearly) worst team in the comp can't get games into one of the better KPF prospects anywhere, what are we doing?

And thats why Darling will move on IMO.

Oh you forgot Maric 196cm. Who I can see as a 3rd intercept and rebounding defender, has a great long flat kick.

Eagles tall forward options are certainly flexible.

 

[Bender_]

Just why he’d go to the Bulldogs who’d be just as difficult a midfield to crack into as GWS would be a mystery. Might as well stay at GWS

This was my immediate thought.

The Bulldogs have been pushing mids out due to lack of spots.

 

[KBLT]

This was my immediate thought.

The Bulldogs have been pushing mids out due to lack of spots.

Would be Grundy to Melbourne levels of stupid.

 

[ep2018]

We're a bin fire right now, people here really have to ask why some players might be hesitant to come over even with guaranteed opportunity?

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Im not going to be a draft expert just hate the idea in principle. If it’s even as you say you’re not getting the picks yo make it worthwhile anyway. Just take the most surefire a grade midfielder at 3. We can’t mess this up.

No one even knows who that sure fire A grader available at 3 is though - it’s a blanket finish at the top end this year. Player at 3,4,5,6 most likely a raffle and dependent on specific club need. I say we take one there and another closeish to top 10 prospect