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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."




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Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.
Freo have also had a steady stream of players wanting out. Dealing with gold Coast for Weller helped a lot too. Losing cerra turned out to be a blessing too
The eagles haven't had as many players wanting to leave and players like darling aren't going to get you high draft picks

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Just a thought with sliding back from 3. If you look at Fremantle’s draft picks with there latest rebuild Brayshaw was there highest pick going at 2. Young was 6, Serong 7 & Amiss 8, Champman 11, & so on.

They never had any help from the AFL unlike some clubs but they have just found the way payers by picking well (It’s hard for me to give any credit to Fremantle)

It’s a good example that there are still great players after 5 so personally not too bothered to slide back if it generates extra players/picks.
Freo have been rebuilding for 10 years and have played 1 final in that time . Of course they would have a lot of top picks .
They went from minor premiers to cellar dwellers in 1 year

They also got gifted brayshaw for Weller.

Its not surprising they have the list they do but they still choked from top 4 to out of finals in the last month so the potential is there but they have a massive soft under belly when things aren't on their terms
 

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Good. I’d be surprised if we’re not top of his list. Next question is price and where we draw the line. Would Brisbane drive a hard bargain? In order of preference:

Swap F4s
Pick 67
Pick 62

Unfortunately with points a premium for Brisbane I don’t think any of the above would be accepted even though they should be.
No way we should pay anymore than a token pick.

They have no need for him and should let him go as goodwill.
 
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Honestly, if we arent talking to other teams such as the Saints and letting Tom know that we aren't going to let him just walk to Hawks for unders then we are idiots. 14+F2 is unders for a gun KPB with 3 years to run on his contract. Saints have lost Battle, lets shop him for a top 10 then he can make the decision if he really wants to go to Melbourne or see out his contract.
 
For me, the only real negative adding Graham, other than the fact he's injury prone and fairly B grade was that it meant Dev would be less likely to happen.

When if you look at them, Dev has much more upside, still potentially loads of room for more development, whilst Graham peaked a couple years ago.

Hopefully Dev still happens. Can never have too much mid depth, particularly for a side as lacking as ours.


It's either Dev or carry on with Ledwards for yet another year :rainbow:
That is an easy one - bye bye Luke
 
Are priority picks out of the question for us now? I can’t recall but assume North got theirs before the trade period, or at least the ones that they had to trade for players (hard to remember all the different poverty packages they have been given).

Disappointing if we aren’t considered given how far our picks have been pushed back the last couple of years and with other teams getting gifted high picks for average FAs. An end of R1 this year would’ve made the Baker trade straight forward. A couple of F1s would be handy to strengthen our chances of Chad.
They are happy for us to be a bottom team.
 

It is up to the Hawks. We apparently had sign off at 8 or 9.

He is contracted for another 3 years and hence up to Hawks to get pick 9. Alternatively give us something that can either get us up to 9 or of similar value.

There is no PSD threat.

I hope we are talking with Sydney about 19 and 22 for Tom
 

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If I were West Coast I'd be more than happy to keep Barrass on the list if that's the case. They can get stuffed if they're only gonna attach one pick for a player that's gonna shoot them up to top of ladder status. Please don't roll over for a change and get maximum value for him.
 
I didn't think Hawthorn were gonna be so hard to deal with. 14 & F1 should've been the starting asking price.
Of course they would be. Entitled Victorian team.

We should be playing the game like PA with Houston. Don’t get/give up the picks we want then no trade.
We know his worth and so do Hawthorn.
 
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Ridiculous posturing from the Hawks, they should be taking 14 and f2 to the bank for Barrass and be glad to do it.
 
The classic unbiased position of “Well there’s TWO teams in WA so he can be traded to the highest bidder”

It’s only fair that the equal is applied the other way “Well there’s TEN teams in VIC so he can be traded to the highest bidder”

Strangely still waiting to hear it…
Classic double standard. In fact I think they have a whole set of standards depending on who they are talking about.

For people who think they are so knowledgeable they are appallingly biased.
 
I didn't think Hawthorn were gonna be so hard to deal with. 14 & F1 should've been the starting asking price.
It should have been the price as late as today really
 
Need to create the narrative that other teams are waiting and keen if Hawks dither too much. Beyond a joke that they won’t even attach a second to the deal given three years in contract to go.
They don’t care about contract or no contract, they think they can just poach him.

If we don’t leverage his contract status it doesn’t mean anything.
 

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