Delisting mega thread 2024!!

[The acurate one]

Hmmm..will I live long enough to see the big Gonad make his debut?

Oh dear one would like to think we live long enough to enjoy our third dominant period of our 99 years in the VFL slash AFL.

Crikey big year in 2025 fyi

 

[Horizons_00]

If RHJ can finish off strong we should be keeping him. You can literally see him growing before our eyes, and could very well be that small zippy forward we've been looking for.

Idk whether his defensive side is good enough yet

 

[Chadwiko]

If RHJ can finish off strong we should be keeping him. You can literally see him growing before our eyes, and could very well be that small zippy forward we've been looking for.

To keep RHJ, who would you swap out from the below list?

In all likelihood I think we will only be able to keep five players from the below list of out-of-contract guys heading into 2025;

Bolded players are the ones I'd be keeping.

Bailey Scott (trade?)
Blake Drury (release)
Cameron Zurhaar
Charlie Lazzaro (release)
Cooper Harvey (rookie list maybe?)
Curtis Taylor (release)
Finnbar Maley
Hamish Free (release)
Hugh Greenwood (retire)
Jackson Archer
Kallan Dawson
Liam Shiels (retire)
Robert Hansen Jr (release/VFL)
Tyler Sellers (release/VFL)
Will Phillips

 

[shintemaster]

To keep RHJ, who would you swap out from the below list?

In all likelihood I think we will only be able to keep five players from the below list of out-of-contract guys heading into 2025;

Bolded players are the ones I'd be keeping.

Bailey Scott (trade?)
Blake Drury (release)
Cameron Zurhaar
Charlie Lazzaro (release)
Cooper Harvey (rookie list maybe?)
Curtis Taylor (release)
Finnbar Maley
Hamish Free (release)
Hugh Greenwood (retire)
Jackson Archer
Kallan Dawson
Liam Shiels (retire)
Robert Hansen Jr (release/VFL)
Tyler Sellers (release/VFL)
Will Phillips

Your list is pretty accurate. Obviously still question marks over Scott & Zurhaar signings (FWIW I think Cam is a very likely stay, Scott I'm less convinced). Phillips potentially a mutually satisfactory trade although obviously his value isn't huge at the moment.

 

[R00StaR]

To keep RHJ, who would you swap out from the below list?

In all likelihood I think we will only be able to keep five players from the below list of out-of-contract guys heading into 2025;

Bolded players are the ones I'd be keeping.

Bailey Scott (trade?)
Blake Drury (release)
Cameron Zurhaar
Charlie Lazzaro (release)
Cooper Harvey (rookie list maybe?)
Curtis Taylor (release)
Finnbar Maley
Hamish Free (release)
Hugh Greenwood (retire)
Jackson Archer
Kallan Dawson
Liam Shiels (retire)
Robert Hansen Jr (release/VFL)
Tyler Sellers (release/VFL)
Will Phillips

Do we know how many rookie spots we'll have yet? Im not sure of our exact number as of yet. Losing 10 seems excessive why so many?

What happens to your numbers if a trade happened for Scott? What would happen if we added a 3rd or 4th rounder with him to get a better player or pick. Doesn't that open a spot given we wouldn't be using that 3rd or 4th?
Its just not straight forward enough for me to say, although if really pushed then probably Harvey and RHJ are fighting it out for a rookie spot.

Id have them fairly even atm, Cooper started well but RHJ has the better form now.

 

[R00StaR]

Your list is pretty accurate. Obviously still question marks over Scott & Zurhaar signings (FWIW I think Cam is a very likely stay, Scott I'm less convinced). Phillips potentially a mutually satisfactory trade although obviously his value isn't huge at the moment.

Last i checked when you trade you get a pick or player back, so not sure how that opens spots. Unless picks are added to get a better player or pick back than the player would have on their own.

 

[R00StaR]

Idk whether his defensive side is good enough yet

He's only 20 and just shown a step up who knows how many more steps he has in the next year or two.

Look at Stengle, delisted and would've likely netted Geelong R1 compo instead they paid up. We need to give players some time to figure out their true potential.

 

[Chadwiko]

Last i checked when you trade you get a pick or player back, so not sure how that opens spots. Unless picks are added to get a better player or pick back than the player would have on their own.

You can trade for a future pick, meaning you keep the list spot open for at least another year.

 

[R00StaR]

You can trade for a future pick, meaning you keep the list spot open for at least another year.

Ahhh yes didnt think of that. That works and we'd have a much better idea around a few and few more that wont get renewed unless they improve drastically.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Yes of course but I did mention keeping him satisfied as he'd be earning not much.

I think it's crucially important to always have a spot on the list for a talented, young, project Ruck. That's how we end up with guys like Goldy and Xerri.

I wouldn't be worried about rival clubs putting a big contract in front of him while he's getting less than a handful of possessions a game in the VFL.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Uncontracted for 2024

Bailey Scott

8

Bailey Scott

Age

24

Ht

186cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.5

3star

MG

155.6

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

114.8

2star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

171.6

3star

- Retain 2 Yr Deal
Blake Drury - Delist
Cam Zurhaar - Retain 4 Yr Deal or Free Agency.
Charlie Lazzaro - Delist (very very stiff)
Cooper Harvey - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Curtis Taylor

5

Curtis Taylor

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

- Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Finnbar Maley - Retain 1 yr Deal
Hamish Free - Delist
Hugh Greenwood

1

Hugh Greenwood

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

6.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

8.9

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

7.6

5star

CL

4.4

5star

- Retire/Delist
Liam Shiels

14

Liam Shiels

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

3.4

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

- Retire/Delist
Robert Hansen Jnr - ?? VFL form been okay. Wait and see.
Tyler Sellers - ?? VFL form has been okay. Wait and see.
Will Phillips - Retain 1 yr Deal


Uncontracted for 2025
Aidan Corr

4

Aidan Corr

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.9

4star

MG

291.0

4star

D

13.9

3star

K

11.1

4star

HB

2.7

2star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

291.0

4star

D

7.2

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

Bigoa Nyuon - Delist & Payout
Brynn Teakle
Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

25

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

- Delist & Payout (or drop back to rookie list)
Darcy Tucker

13

Darcy Tucker

Age

27

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.3

5star

MG

239.7

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.3

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

234.8

4star

Eddie Ford
Geordie Payne
Jaidyn Stephenson

2

Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

- Trade or Delist
Josh Goater
Kallan Dawson
Luke Davies Uniacke
Miller Bergman
Paul Curtis
Toby Pink

 

[shintemaster]

Last i checked when you trade you get a pick or player back, so not sure how that opens spots. Unless picks are added to get a better player or pick back than the player would have on their own.

Correct. We can combo picks though to move upwards in the draft (or into future years) to balance our list spots.

 

[Event Horizon]

Uncontracted for 2024

Bailey Scott - Retain 2 Yr Deal
Blake Drury - Delist
Cam Zurhaar - Retain 4 Yr Deal or Free Agency.
Charlie Lazzaro - Delist (very very stiff)
Cooper Harvey - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Curtis Taylor - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Finnbar Maley - Retain 1 yr Deal
Hamish Free - Delist
Hugh Greenwood - Retire/Delist
Liam Shiels - Retire/Delist
Robert Hansen Jnr - ?? VFL form been okay. Wait and see.
Tyler Sellers - ?? VFL form has been okay. Wait and see.
Will Phillips - Retain 1 yr Deal


Uncontracted for 2025
Aidan Corr
Bigoa Nyuon - Delist & Payout
Brynn Teakle
Callum Coleman-Jones - Delist & Payout (or drop back to rookie list)
Darcy Tucker
Eddie Ford
Geordie Payne
Jaidyn Stephenson - Trade or Delist
Josh Goater
Kallan Dawson
Luke Davies Uniacke
Miller Bergman
Paul Curtis
Toby Pink

Uncontracted for 2024

Bailey Scott - Retain 2 Yr Deal
Blake Drury - Delist
Cam Zurhaar - Retain 4 Yr Deal or Free Agency.
Charlie Lazzaro - Delist (very very stiff)
Cooper Harvey - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Curtis Taylor - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Finnbar Maley - Retain 1 yr Deal
Hamish Free - Delist
Hugh Greenwood - Retire/Delist
Liam Shiels - Retire/Delist
Robert Hansen Jnr - ?? VFL form been okay. Wait and see.
Tyler Sellers - ?? VFL form has been okay. Wait and see.
Will Phillips - Retain 1 yr Deal


Uncontracted for 2025
Aidan Corr
Bigoa Nyuon - Delist & Payout
Brynn Teakle
Callum Coleman-Jones - Delist & Payout (or drop back to rookie list)
Darcy Tucker
Eddie Ford
Geordie Payne
Jaidyn Stephenson - Trade or Delist
Josh Goater
Kallan Dawson
Luke Davies Uniacke
Miller Bergman
Paul Curtis
Toby Pink

Makes sense, but it's quite rare for clubs to delist and pay out contracted players. In your example, you're proposing to get rid of 3 of them in one offseason (we won't get any bites for Stephenson)

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Makes sense, but it's quite rare for clubs to delisted and payout contracted players. In your example you're proposing to get rid of 3 of them in one offseason (we won't get any bites for Stephenson)

Plenty of clubs do it, historically though we just haven’t been one of those clubs.

Paying out Biggie and CCJ would cost us hardly anything. Biggie is on a base wage and CCJ’s contract was heavily front loaded so I wouldn’t imagine he’d be on much either.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if a few clubs had a bite at Stephenson. Say Geelong could get him for essentially nothing, and we’d pay a significant amount of his final year contract. It’s be appealing for a depth player who has some upside.

 

[King Corey]

Departures: (prediction not preference)

Greenwood (Retire)
Lazarro
Nuyon
Thomas
Shiels (Retire)
Sellers R
Free R

TBC - Club would like to retain them:

Scott
Zurhaar

TBC - Form will dictate

RHJ
Drury
Taylor (looking more likely to stay)
Harvey

4-5 off the main list.

No change except Taylor might be moving back towards the exit.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Uncontracted for 2024

Bailey Scott - Retain 2 Yr Deal
Blake Drury - Delist
Cam Zurhaar - Retain 4 Yr Deal or Free Agency.
Charlie Lazzaro - Delist (very very stiff)
Cooper Harvey - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Curtis Taylor - Retain 1 yr Deal - rookie list
Finnbar Maley - Retain 1 yr Deal
Hamish Free - Delist
Hugh Greenwood - Retire/Delist
Liam Shiels - Retire/Delist
Robert Hansen Jnr - ?? VFL form been okay. Wait and see.
Tyler Sellers - ?? VFL form has been okay. Wait and see.
Will Phillips - Retain 1 yr Deal


Uncontracted for 2025
Aidan Corr
Bigoa Nyuon - Delist & Payout
Brynn Teakle
Callum Coleman-Jones - Delist & Payout (or drop back to rookie list)
Darcy Tucker
Eddie Ford
Geordie Payne
Jaidyn Stephenson - Trade or Delist
Josh Goater
Kallan Dawson
Luke Davies Uniacke
Miller Bergman
Paul Curtis
Toby Pink

So that's at least 5 rookies in Teakle/Maley/Payne/Harvey/Taylor with one space for River Stevens.
If the AFL lets us keep the two extra list spots then Sellers and Hansen Jnr survive.

Kal Dawson upgrade makes 38 on the main less TT, Greenwood, Lazzaro, Nyuon, Harvey, Taylor, CCJ and Stephenson leaves us with 30 on the main list with a max of 37 (if 5(7) rookies) or 36-6(8). So that's 4-7 ND picks/trade spots.

I think it'll depend on what happens with the rookie list and how many rookies we want to carry.
Should be interesting. A Stevo/Scott/Phillips trade would open up things as well I guess. Wait and see.

 

[hellas_johnny]

Can't see the club delisting 3 contracted even though they might not be on much$. Ccj especially considering he has the injury this year putting him out for the season even though he was clearly in clarkos calculations. Of the 3 biggy would seem the most likely.

 

[perplexed]

Can't see the club delisting 3 contracted even though they might not be on much$. Ccj especially considering he has the injury this year putting him out for the season even though he was clearly in clarkos calculations. Of the 3 biggy would seem the most likely.

I think with Kal Dawson and Pink both getting an extra year, Biggie is probably gone.

 

[FlyHigh18]

wiphi isn't being traded anywhere you sick bastards. stop it

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not sure if Wiphi is still on our list next year.

 

[shinboner magic]

if tigers lose a few players via trade - woul they take sleevo off our hands for a late pick

 

[Passmore]

if tigers lose a few players via trade - woul they take sleevo off our hands for a late pick

Free to a good home.

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[roos_fanatic08]

if tigers lose a few players via trade - woul they take sleevo off our hands for a late pick

I think it would be more likely a contending team might take him purely because we'd pay a significant proportion of the final year of his deal. As funny as it seems he'd actually be suited to Collingwood's game style. GWS could probably utilise a player like him in their forward line too.

 

[chubbspeterson]

wiphi isn't being traded anywhere you sick bastards. stop it

One would hope not but there's no contract yet so it's still a live scenario.

 

[year of the roo]

wiphi isn't being traded anywhere you sick bastards. stop it

I don't know how YOU could be so certain when WILL isn't so certain.