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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
We would be silly to assume it is not us. It very well could be. We have always managed to keep players on the field, resulting in a number of consecutive games records. We dont seem to suffer from soft tissue injuries. Our medical/conditioning department is the envy of the AFL.
Sydney has for years had a cutting edge football department, one that looks for advantage anyway they can. Let's hope they have been working within the rules.
Fingers crossed
If it turns out to be "widespread" as in ever team is doing it, then meh maybe they should improve their testing strategies. I would love to see the drugs allowed olympics, it would be sensational.
Spot on DG, bulking up isn't everything.. for one being able to play the game very well will beat pure size every time, I think what you are suggesting is the stamina ones that will give more of an advantage to the way our game is played these days. I remember the super fit brownlow medalist Aker suggesting years ago that his West Coast opponent must have been on something because he had him well covered the previous time they played but this time he just kept running and running off him all the time, super human like. I think it was EPO. As much as most don't like the loud mouth it doesn't automatically make his educated observations wrong.. However he did retract the statement for legal reasons.. That was 10yrs ago, in modern science terms.. that was ancient times imagine how far its improved and how much harder to detect.
Ill give a little on my experience with certain 'supplements'. I use them but I don't play a professional sport but I like to keep fit, I still train pretty hard for an old fella. Importing laws from overseas can be very strict in Aus but are a little more lenient in NZ. Then importing from NZ to Aus is even easier.. Certain banned substances are readily available if you know what youre doing. With banned 'products' all they do is change one ingredient to one with similar effects not on the banned list and off you go again, by the time the legislation process goes through to ban that product, one ingredient is changed again, re branded and it just keeps rolling.
I guess you could call it cutting edge stuff.
2 of the speculated clubs were from Queensland where Dank have worked in the past.
If so, then the third surely has to be WC *Cousins* *cough*
Per the SMH:
Good news
Cousin was not on PEDs, at least, hasn't been exposed to have been.
Call me naive but I personally think there is no way anything like this could have been administrated at the club, our fitness/coaching staff are way too professional. At most a tiny ratio of individual players but nothing organised.
Seeing Paul Roo's on the news last night speaking out with conviction against it and a "name and shame" attitude also added to my already high confidence. The logic, practicality and professionalism oozing from the statements and methods our training/fitness/coaching staff is unparalleled.
Doing so is an extremely stupid thing to do. We are famous for not being stupid. Extremely unhappy and surprised to be proven wrong.
What do you mean proven wrong? This makes it sound as though Sydney are involved in this?I thought it was all speculation at this stage.
Swans could get on the front foot and submit to team blood testing and publish the results for all to see.
Call me naive but I personally think there is no way anything like this could have been administrated at the club, our fitness/coaching staff are way too professional. At most a tiny ratio of individual players but nothing organised.
Seeing Paul Roo's on the news last night speaking out with conviction against it and a "name and shame" attitude also added to my already high confidence. The logic, practicality and professionalism oozing from the statements and methods our training/fitness/coaching staff is unparalleled.
Doing so is an extremely stupid thing to do. We are famous for not being stupid. Extremely unhappy and surprised to be proven wrong.
Not necessarily, but AFL players do a lot of running which is a high impact excersise and high impact breaks down muscle mass. If you did your aerobic training on a bike or elyptyical runner, no impactI had a friend who did training up to Olympic coaching level. We used to train together sometimes. Both of us have poor genes for muscle gain and left it too late in life. He used some steroids and the results were noticeable. It was obvious with most that were using them at our gym.
When I saw Essendon at the beginning of last year it was noticeable how much weight many of them had put on. I have noticed it with the odd Swan. However you are talking about guys at the right age for rapid muscle gain and many are going to have the right genes. So although I'm pretty sure there's been some cheating going on, it could be good genes, youth, right training regime and right diet.
I still can't understand how they do rapid muscle gain while increasing aerobic capacity because my understanding was that the two don't go together (you have to cut back on aerobic training to put on muscle?)
We had Craig and Charlie Walsh as coach and fitness advisors - responsible for winning cycling gold medals during the East German drug era. We were known for very fit and strong teams.
I would be VERY surprised if it was not us :-(
ADELAIDE Football Club refused to deal with Stephen Dank - the man at the centre of the AFL drug scandal - rejecting his advances in 2006 when he put forward genetic testing proposals and gimmicky products.
The Advertiser can reveal Dank was a Masters student of AFL sports science expert Professor Kevin Norton at the University of New South Wales.
Norton has worked extensively as a consultant with the Crows and warned a club committee against any involvement with Dank's methods
"Dank finished his Masters with me in the 1990s. He came to the Crows a few years ago and I suggested they don't go near him," recalled Norton, now Professor of Exercise Science at UniSA.
"It was genetic testing which appeared to be gimmicky, costly and to no obvious benefit and that was what my opinion was to the club.
"They wanted ridiculous money, hundreds of dollars for each test.
"It wasn't just the idea it was going to be expensive but it was crossing the threshold where I was comfortable.
"Some clubs fell for it. I have since recommended people avoid him."
i am partly reassured by the fact that the fitness staff have never been incredibly high profile at Sydney. Dave Misson was certainly rated, but any statements have usually come from the physio, Matt Cameron or Nathan Gibbs. I would be confident that there was no systemic use of illegal supplements given the size, age and commitment of the leadership group. Nobody can answer for individuals.No clubs have been named yet (other than Essendon), so we'll just have to sit patiently and wait for things to come out I guess. As Grim said, nervous times ahead unfortunately.
If we are clean, then it's a bloody great effort by the medical staff, given that we won the flag when all of this was supposedly going on.
You can say it here too, as long as you make it clear it is just your opinion and you aren't claiming it as indisputable fact.
We would be silly to assume it is not us. It very well could be. We have always managed to keep players on the field, resulting in a number of consecutive games records. We dont seem to suffer from soft tissue injuries. Our medical/conditioning department is the envy of the AFL.
Sydney has for years had a cutting edge football department, one that looks for advantage anyway they can. Let's hope they have been working within the rules.
Fingers crossed
No clubs have been named yet (other than Essendon), so we'll just have to sit patiently and wait for things to come out I guess. As Grim said, nervous times ahead unfortunately.
If we are clean, then it's a bloody great effort by the medical staff, given that we won the flag when all of this was supposedly going on.