Dunno but we havn't lost three in a row by a combined 160 points. Demonstrates lack of heart as well
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Essendon and their failed rebuild
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Dunno but we havn't lost three in a row by a combined 160 points. Demonstrates lack of heart as well
Do any threads on the main board not turn into shitfights.
Hawks/Geelong/Sydney
Essendon/Richmond
WCE/Freo
etc etc
Hawks/Geelong/Sydney
Essendon/Richmond
WCE/Freo
etc etc
Thread asking about the 'failed rebuild' is utter shit. Essendon were never in a rebuild. They were just a team going from 5th-8th to top 4. Even under Knights they were in this set. The question should be 'How come Essendon haven't taken the next step?' Or 'Why do Essendon continue to drop off at the end of the year?' They have the list to be contenders, but always seem to drop off quite badly. Of course, these last two seasons have been tainted with issues. The difference this season is that their injury list isn't nearly as bad as last seasons, yet they are dropping off in a similar way.
Also, Hardwick didn't have it bad, but didn't have it good. A lot of duds were also on that list. Plus, our young stars and picks had maybe, 50 games of experience each. A lot of inexperience.
Youngest Essendon teams since 1979 under Knights = rebuild.
How come Hardwick was turned down when he used the word 'Rebuild' when going for the Essendon job? Knights believed they could make the finals (which they did). Just because a young team were played, doesn't mean it was a 'rebuild.' A majority of that list is still there.
Wow. This thread is so full of stupid.
I would have thought the Tiges supporters would have outgrown their inferiority complex by now. Hardwick's done well, folks. Time for the big boy pants! No need to cheer other teams' failure - you can finally cheer your own team's success!
As for the Bombers, i think their performances this year given their off-field distractions have been nothing short of miraculous. Furthermore their fade-out came about 6 weeks later this year than last. So even ignoring the ASADA mess, progress is being made.
I would have thought the Tiges supporters would have outgrown their inferiority complex by now. Hardwick's done well, folks. Time for the big boy pants! No need to cheer other teams' failure - you can finally cheer your own team's success!
As for the Bombers, i think their performances this year given their off-field distractions have been nothing short of miraculous. Furthermore their fade-out came about 6 weeks later this year than last. So even ignoring the ASADA mess, progress is being made.
jko'neal
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So let me get this straight. No Richmond supporters are allowed to start threads about opposition teams, am I right?
I love these kinds of threads,
Three losses in a row and it's a 'failed rebuild'
Keep it up, 33 years
Three losses in a row and it's a 'failed rebuild'
Keep it up, 33 years
I love these kinds of threads,
Three losses in a row and it's a 'failed rebuild'
Keep it up, 33 years
3 losses by a combined 160pts. Thats very concerning. Plus falling short in August yet again.
Players farewelled in the post-season 2007-09: Lloyd (270), Lucas (270), Hird (253), Camporeale (252), Michael (238), M.Johnson (194), J.Johnson (184), Heffernan (170), McPhee (167), Peverill (144), Ramanauskas (134), Bolton (124), Lovett (88), Cole (63), Laycock (58), Bradley (49), Nash (43)
New players: Bellchambers, Hurley, Zaharakis, Carlisle, Crameri, Howlett, Myers, Pears, Melksham, Hooker, Colyer, Hardingham, Slattery, D.Daniher, Quinn, Marigliani, Magin, J.Williams, Atkinson plus M.Williams, Prismall, Skipworth from other clubs
Games played prior to Knights: Hocking (1), Lonergan (1), Neagle (1), Reimers (3), Hislop (3), Jetta (4), Houli (4), Gumbleton (5), Dempsey (6), Davey (14), Johns (19)
Rebuild.
Richmond could win five flags in a row by 100 points, and I'd still take delight at the failure of Essendon. Success doesn't diminish a hate of a club, just look at what Geelong fans think of Hawthorn.
And yet we're still firmly entrenched in the 8 with this whole ASADA investigation having no doubt devastating effects on the playing group.
I'd be more concerned about round 23, especially considering your sides performance the last time we met. Could be the difference between playing a very poor side with a failed rebuild, or a side from Adelaide with a genuine shot at a flag.
Bomberblitzer
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Like the heart you displayed in last years elim?
Bomberblitzer
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And swallowed up by silly people on BigFooty.
So brave
Rnd 23 doesnt bother me in the slightest, on form we will win by 10 goals. In fact I hope you guys get to play finals. Rather play you than Port in week 1.
Bomberblitzer
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The bandwagoners have awoken after 33 years of a abysmal football
Probably our best chance in years to win a flag with the current list just needs some more tweaking but it's almost there.
Disagree. If anything, they started their rebuild under Sheedy in 2006 and finished in Knights first year when they made finals. As I said, a majority of that list is still there. A majority of the players you mentioned were gone before Knights got there, with the exception of Lloyd. The rebuild started before he got there. He believed the team could make finals, which the board agreed with, effectively ending the 'rebuild.' If a team can make finals, then they can build on areas they need to, not start from the bottom which would be a rebuild. Since Knights first year, Essendon have believed they can make finals. I wouldn't call that a rebuild.
Well, I think it's pretty easy to see why we have dropped off this year and last year. 2011 we lost Jobe for a few games in the back half half of the season and didn't yet have the depth to properly cover him, but we didn't finish the season off that badly (won three of the last five). Under Knights in 2010 we were a complete and utter shambles to finish the year, and the players had given up on him. 2009 we snuck into finals with a negative win/loss ratio. Before then, we just weren't a very good team.
Under Knights we were also the worst traveling team in the AFL; we seriously could not win on the road, so that would account for a few more 2nd half of season loses. Hird has turned this around beautifully.
Besides, being a big 4 club, we usually have to play all of Carlton/Collingwood/Richmond in the back half of the year, and no matter where our respective clubs are at at that point, these matches are always a toss of the coin.
Our late season fadeouts are a problem for sure, but I think we can be excused for the last two years. It does need to change if we want to take the next step.
Can you be excused for the last two seasons though?
Last season can be excused. This season, you'll make finals (barring AFL), but it looks like you guys are spent. Can you blame the investigation after you guys were top 4 for a majority of the season? This was going on all year remind you
Hird decided to retire but Knights made the call to trade some of the others. He had to deal with the loss of experience from the list.
\2007|Sheedy|25.25|108.2
\2008|Knights|24.21|87.1
\2009|Knights|24.03|79.4
\2010|Knights|23.68|68.8
\2011|Hird|24.09|78.0
\2012|Hird|24.62|81.0
\2013|Hird|24.90|84.7
\2010|Eade|26.29|122.1
\2011|Eade|24.96|92.0
\2012|McCartney|24.66|85.3
\2013|McCartney|24.54|79.7
Anyway, it's all semantics.
I'm surprised we havent seen [user]Lance Uppercut[/user] here.
Surely his brand of reasoned discourse could add something to the topic? After all, he was claiming to be an expert on failed rebirths....
Surely his brand of reasoned discourse could add something to the topic? After all, he was claiming to be an expert on failed rebirths....
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