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I don't even want Jetta on the other wing.Just imagine
Jetta on one wing
Hurtung on the other.
Wowee
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I don't even want Jetta on the other wing.Just imagine
Jetta on one wing
Hurtung on the other.
Wowee
this is what happens when the people who advise you are idiotsInteresting time for Hartung, were other clubs really interested and holding back trading for him and planning to swoop in like a seagull on a hot chip? or has young Billy done a Xavier Richards and overplayed his hand? Would he accept a rookie spot lifeline?
Clarko also advised Billy to never marry as it would involve physical contact as well.Rumour has it he actually had 1st place in the bag, but pulled back when he realised he would have to make physical contact to break the tape at the finish line.
I heard this comment about Hartung as well.Clarko also advised Billy to never marry as it would involve physical contact as well.
But Jetta was really good in that game ... in extra time!Just imagine
Jetta on one wing
Hurtung on the other.
Wowee
You're not going to get a clear cut answer but basically he was offered a contract after being shopped around, more so out of good will. He didn't like the security the contract offered and took his chances in the draft.Can we get someone to pony up and state clearly whether Hartung was offered a contract or not? And where that information comes from, however redacted.
Hartung, contract offer, no contract offer, has been creeping into this discussion for months as statements inferring inside info, and often used to undercut people's opinions, but is that just another opinion?
You're not going to get a clear cut answer but basically he was offered a contract after being shopped around, more so out of good will. He didn't like the security the contract offered and took his chances in the draft.
FFS though, sprinting in a running race aint what someone does on a footy field.
Hi Hawks, whats the deal with Hartung? Is he worth picking up for Richmond.Whenever I've seen him play, he was a real line breaker.Has he got an attitude problem or is it is lack of pressure?
Yeah, the speed thing is a bit of a bugbear for me. Whether he had it or not, and it appears he did, it didnt translate to being able to play footy.Don't disagree, he could certainly look slow on the field due to indecision, but at least one poster has tried to mount an argument that he couldn't actually sprint, and he was all about endurance. Clearly a lot of post-delisting justifications going on that don't really match reality. Stats wise Billy seemed to progress every year, and also seemed to get better towards the end of this season. I too was frustrated watching him break the lines then get frozen with indecision on what would have been his kick inside 50, but he did seem to be improving, and was only 22. For mine, the only way to make sense of the delisting decision is to believe the 'turned down a contract' rumours. Would be doubly shocked if nobody else gives him a go, given he had an improving trajectory. The only way I can't see that happening is if there is deeper attitude issues that the industry knows about and the average bigfooty poster doesn't.
Given we've been susceptible to sides that move the ball quickly for a while now (even when at our best), I can definitely see Billy getting one back on us if he meets us again as an opposition player in the future, especially if a change of scenery helps with his confidence, and that improves his indecision issues (some have noted he didn't look to have that hesitance in his game when at TAC level, so I can easily believe it is confidence rather than a slow brain).
At the end of the day though, if he didn't want to accept a contract the club thought was fair, as as been suggested, then I will not be shedding too many tears over Billy.
Maybe a straight swap for Dusty next year?Hi Hawks, whats the deal with Hartung? Is he worth picking up for Richmond.Whenever I've seen him play, he was a real line breaker.Has he got an attitude problem or is it is lack of pressure?.I also wouldnt recommend taking any Richmond delistings. Maybe Batchelor could take a back spot but Ben Lennon is too selfish. Best of luck next year.
Can’t understand why Willsmore would get a lifeline over Stewart.
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Two of the softest, lazy decision makers in the afl system, woweeJust imagine
Jetta on one wing
Hurtung on the other.
Wowee
Clarko also advised Billy to never marry as it would involve physical contact as well.
Did you read my post? I said on like the 3rd line that the Hawks had committed to picking up Willsmore in the rookie draft.Lol the same question over and over can the mods add that to the title of this thread. Willsmore was contracted for next year
Did you read my post? I said on like the 3rd line that the Hawks had committed to picking up Willsmore in the rookie draft.
The hysteria over Hartung's delisting is bemusing to say the least. Apart from Josh Kennedy, i can't recall a playing in the past 15 years we let go ever coming back to bite us - not even the great BUDDY! There were protests when we let Croad go, Thompson, Rawlings, Hay........and we should have been locked up for getting a first rounder for Lonie from Port- that was absolute theft!
They same thing was being said about Hallahan and he really came back to bite us at the Suns!
If we are arguing about a bloke who only got games this year because of our extensive injury list, we are in real trouble!
Not wanting to be offensive, but the guy was a squib and to quote the great Martin Pike - 4 time premiership player - "he sleeps with the light on".
I'm personally glad we cut our losses because if you analyse his game - his 22 possession per game average was boosted by the fact he was receiving chip kicks in the back pocket - didn't realise it was his mandate to break lines from so far deep in defence - sorry, my bad, that is where you can actually rack up a bruise free stat!
Agree Willsmore should also have been let go and just unfortunate was still contracted and we always try and fulfill our contractual obligations. We did exactly the same thing with the man mountain Sam Grimley when we re-drafted him as a rookie.
I suggest we all visit the board of which ever team picks him up and see there thoughts but more importantly, frustrations............
End for what is worth and i know it was a different era, but some of the players we let go back in the day and still managed to win premiership was a list of who's who - Eade, Wallace, Abbot, Greg Dear, Kenny Judge........and we are really this concerned about Billy Hartung? Clarko isn't a 4 time premiership by chance.
Whoops, my bad. Honest mistake. I don't know when my account is getting nuked.He wasn't addressing you. Seriously. When is this account getting nuked again?