Review Negatives vs North Melbourne

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Hopefully the synergy between Yeo Shuey Kelly and Gaff returns with more games together. I don't know. The next 6 weeks will definitely show us whether it's rebuild time or not. This team has used up all it's credit in the bank. 17 changes in 3 weeks has definitely not helped. Hopefully no injuries and some more games together will improve those guys or at least get them back up to the level required.

 

[Dylan82]

Rancid.


Every week we get to watch the opposition push their half forwards into the midfield and have them carve us up as we refuse to man them.

Bulldogs - B.Smith; Swans - O.Florent; Kangaroos - J.Stephenson...


Teams have been doing it do us ever since that last match in 2018 and it never has been properly addressed.

The difference now is that it is no longer a secret that if you kill the connection between our inside and outside stoppage games then our ball movement becomes non-existent and can't generate an avenue to score from.


No other club in the competition sets up so deep in defence as West Coast does. With the way you can play on from the mark now, sitting back deep in defence is a huge liability as you have no means of slowing down ball before it is in dangerous areas.

When other clubs that are genuinely chasing for the premiership press into the midfield to prevent that link-up through the corridor, the Eagles instead stay back and allow it - causing the zone to be opened all too easily time and time again.


All of this is well-known and well-worn - yet the club again set itself up in the exact same way, with the same structure and strategy that were not conducive to the conditions on the ground and did practically nothing to counter opposition moves during the game.

The result speaks for itself. West Coast, at home and with a full list to choose from, just lost to the team with the very worst record in the competition.


The club is currently less than the sum of its parts to such an extent that it may no longer be retrievable.

 

[PerthBoy86]

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Somehow Freo will find a way to rollover

Think they'll finally break that 11 game losing streak unfortunately. And if they do they deserve to.

 

[Madas]

Think they'll finally break that 11 game losing streak unfortunately. And if they do they deserve to.

Dunno
Something just seems to get in our guys head that they can’t win .
Just hope it’s a good one and the umps leave the whistles at home and let them play .
The blow outs of the last few were crap footy to watch

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

When a leader can't or won't address the problem, the leader becomes the problem.

 

[Wild Kelly]

Dunno
Something just seems to get in our guys head that they can’t win .
Just hope it’s a good one and the umps leave the whistles at home and let them play .
The blow outs of the last few were crap footy to watch

Our GF?

 

[sey666]

Hope like hell that we somehow make the finals this year because things could get worse next year. We don't really have any good young midfielders and Kelly who we spent 2 first round picks, a pick 24 and a pick 33 will be 28 in July next year. Posted the following picture in the trade thread last year when we delisted Jetta and retained Ainsworth and Hutchings on 1 year deals - now only 6 matches to go but they are yet to play a game this year. Hutchings may play a game but Ainsworth is unlikely to play any this year.

 

[Madas]

Our GF?

Not sure what you mean sorry ?
I was talking about the last few Derby’s being blow outs because Freo choked

 

[kaiserchief13]

Rancid.


Every week we get to watch the opposition push their half forwards into the midfield and have them carve us up as we refuse to man them.

Bulldogs - B.Smith; Swans - O.Florent; Kangaroos - J.Stephenson...


Teams have been doing it do us ever since that last match in 2018 and it never has been properly addressed.

The difference now is that it is no longer a secret that if you kill the connection between our inside and outside stoppage games then our ball movement becomes non-existent and can't generate an avenue to score from.


No other club in the competition sets up so deep in defence as West Coast does. With the way you can play on from the mark now, sitting back deep in defence is a huge liability as you have no means of slowing down ball before it is in dangerous areas.

When other clubs that are genuinely chasing for the premiership press into the midfield to prevent that link-up through the corridor, the Eagles instead stay back and allow it - causing the zone to be opened all too easily time and time again.


All of this is well-known and well-worn - yet the club again set itself up in the exact same way, with the same structure and strategy that were not conducive to the conditions on the ground and did practically nothing to counter opposition moves during the game.

The result speaks for itself. West Coast, at home and with a full list to choose from, just lost to the team with the very worst record in the competition.


The club is currently less than the sum of its parts to such an extent that it may no longer be retrievable.

Good observation, but you can't blame the club/team for this, it is entirely Simpson's fault

 

[StCicatriz]

come in peace, i don't think the loss is as bad as some will make out. there's still key pillars of a great side here, you just need more help around them.

i think the big one you are missing is an inside bull. kelly is great but he's not a bull and never will be. shuey has dash. gaff is great as an endurance running mid. redden probably was this guy but he's out and Yeo is great in there but is used where the problems are. he can't be everywhere at once. i'd make him captain TBH!

so here's why i am posting. i think Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

's emergence could be a cheapish replacement for redden and give you a servicable soldier on the inside who can also do a shut down role. means you can be less reliant on Yeo, free him up a little, playing a more attacking role at the stoppage, whilst luke nullify's the oppos best inside mid.

he's a UFA so it means you don't blow a pick on him. allowing you to hit the draft to start to rebuild some of the midfield and flanks. he'll also come pretty cheap salary wise so he wouldn't break the bank.

 

[THE A5]

come in peace, i don't think the loss is as bad as some will make out. there's still key pillars of a great side here, you just need more help around them.

i think the big one you are missing is an inside bull. kelly is great but he's not a bull and never will be. shuey has dash. gaff is great as an endurance running mid. redden probably was this guy but he's out and Yeo is great in there but is used where the problems are. he can't be everywhere at once. i'd make him captain TBH!

so here's why i am posting. i think Luke Dunstan's emergence could be a cheapish replacement for redden and give you a servicable soldier on the inside who can also do a shut down role. means you can be less reliant on Yeo, free him up a little, playing a more attacking role at the stoppage, whilst luke nullify's the oppos best inside mid.

he's a UFA so it means you don't blow a pick on him. allowing you to hit the draft to start to rebuild some of the midfield and flanks. he'll also come pretty cheap salary wise so he wouldn't break the bank.

No thanks. At 27 next year and where our list is at he's too old for us. We need someone that will help push for or next flag

 

[Cuzz09]

No thanks. At 27 next year and where our list is at he's too old for us. We need someone that will help push for or next flag

if we're building for our next flag lets get the whole list as 18-22 y.olds coz history says itll be closer to 2030 than 2022

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[Carbine Chaos]

Still waiting for Simpson to send someone to Stephenson. He played a ripper game tonight but was allowed to do so. Why is that?

 

[RookiePick]

This is why singling out single snippets can be dangerous, even by people who should know to look deeper. You look at that and think that's piss poor Gov.
The reality is we don't want Gov drawn out in that situation. According to the plan there should be a defensive runner getting there through EFFORT, leaving Gov to stay in D50 and do what he does.
You can argue all the pros and cons and vagaries about whether that's a good plan or not, you can argue over who's really showing the lack of effort, Gov or a particular midfielder refusing to run there. However Gov was doing exactly as we've been coached.

I agree. Our coaching is rubbish. The players either cannot or will not do what is required to make it work or it has simply been figured out and we get pulled apart so no one is where they are supposed to be.

I said it a couple of weeks back. A colts level coach would get better results with this group.

Simple messaging, footy basics. Get dropped if you think you're better than your role.

We have the talent and have pissed it all away thinking we are smarter than 150 years of what works out on the paddock.

Thank **** for 2018 but this is a calamitous collapse that began in late 2019 and has snowballed completely out of control. We should be contending and instead we are a rabble.

 

[russ]

Still waiting for Simpson to send someone to Stephenson. He played a ripper game tonight but was allowed to do so. Why is that?

Always the way, we never shut down opposition players who are dominating. Bont x 2 this season most recent glaring example besides stephenson tonight. Countelss others

 

[The Passenger]

Still waiting for Simpson to send someone to Stephenson. He played a ripper game tonight but was allowed to do so. Why is that?

Nelson has played the odd tagging role to reasonable, albeit can't recall him doing it for an entire game straight off the top of my head.

When looking at the various skill sets, fitness levels and mentalities of the guys in and around our best 22, he probably seems the most suited to the midfield shut down role.

Hutchings, and Stenglein before him, were pretty underrated cogs in our last two flags.

 

[WCE_phil]

Just have to look at Lecras' last year to know he won't be dropped anytime soon. Can't remember hoe many games Lecca played in a row without kicking a goal.

You mean the year he was played specifically off the back of the goal square to run through for run, carry and class. Kicked 32.21,had 15 goal assists and 70 tackles playing half forward in the final year of his career with a lot of it coming running from the defensive half. Stacks up pretty well with any of our small forwards at the moment.

 

[Bacchus]

I was frustrated with Lecras in the last few years of his career but I now see that he was a very important member of the 2018 team, as were Schofield, Jetta and Rioli.

 

[omgfridge]

come in peace, i don't think the loss is as bad as some will make out. there's still key pillars of a great side here, you just need more help around them.

i think the big one you are missing is an inside bull. kelly is great but he's not a bull and never will be. shuey has dash. gaff is great as an endurance running mid. redden probably was this guy but he's out and Yeo is great in there but is used where the problems are. he can't be everywhere at once. i'd make him captain TBH!

so here's why i am posting. i think Luke Dunstan's emergence could be a cheapish replacement for redden and give you a servicable soldier on the inside who can also do a shut down role. means you can be less reliant on Yeo, free him up a little, playing a more attacking role at the stoppage, whilst luke nullify's the oppos best inside mid.

he's a UFA so it means you don't blow a pick on him. allowing you to hit the draft to start to rebuild some of the midfield and flanks. he'll also come pretty cheap salary wise so he wouldn't break the bank.

Surely Saints hold onto Dunstan with his recent form. Tell ya what have enjoyed him as a draft pick up in fantasy football.

Did not realise at all he was already 26, time flies...

 

[ep2018]

Just a reminder Norf were about $5.00 at bouncedown. From memory Essendon were $4.00 when we played.

The North +29.5 line in horrid weather was easy money.

 

[TassieEagle]

I would take Lecca in his condition right now over Petch or Langdon.

I have said all along the biggest mistake we made was getting rid of Jetta. His skills and the way he took the game on would have been gold.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Admittedly it's a pretty soft question but why wasn't Optus Stadium built with a roof?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Simmo is dead man walking

 

[Quinz]

Simmo is dead man walking

Only a matter of time before the Simmo Is Done account appears

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Only a matter of time before the Simmo Is Done account appears

I like Simmo but he's as atubborn as Wiosha