Review Negatives vs North Melbourne

[Magnum27]

Unpopular opinion i'm guessing, but for me our big problem is our forward line, their is zero pressure from any of them when the ball hits the deck. Teams set up the majority of their attacks from the backline knowing their will be no pressure. You have to wonder if that is why the blokes further up the field pause knowing if they kick it a contest and we don't mark it it is coming straight back out which it usually does these days with ease.

Petch so over rated on this board, one thing he has is speed, i cannot remember the last time i saw him rundown an opponent from behind, he is the most bruise free footballer i have seen. Loves nothing better than standing out in space waiting for the cheapie.

Ryan he is in the same boat, and epitomises the down hill skier tag we have, yep he had a great year last year, and that was in part due to shorter quarters which meant he did not have to go as hard for longer, plus blokes out meant he had to step up, he is just plain lazy at times, and would rather do the fancy than the hard work.

Cripps used to be a pressure footballer, but time has caught up with him, time to go.

Langdon is just an honest trier, nothing more nothing less, not quick, not a long kick, not great with his hands and certainly not a pressure footballer.

Oscar is wasted being third banana, we need to find a way to make him being the focus of this forward line, kid has a great footy brain and a can take a great mark, but does not get that chance with the 3rd forward.

JK- Legend of the club, but by him playing on is he holding Oscar back, not his fault anymore, but the one thing that made him a step above the other key forwards of his era was his tackling and chasing, the poor bloke just can get his body to do it any more, i want to him to stay but in some ways i think he should also move on.

JD- Cops some heat for some of his efforts, which can be fair at times, but how many times does he provide a contest and crash a pack, i watched him in the Sydney game live and he did it all day, and yes chasing used to be a feature with him as well, getting beat up in a marking contest may have something to do with that.

 

[Dark Sharks]

If you're a seated member and able to go tonight but choosing not to show up, you can fu** right off. Clearly you suffer from a case of small phallus syndrome.

Well, don't i just feel like the dumbest bloke ever, braving the weather to go support this team.

My mistake.

 

[ziad]

Unpopular opinion i'm guessing, but for me our big problem is our forward line, their is zero pressure from any of them when the ball hits the deck. Teams set up the majority of their attacks from the backline knowing their will be no pressure.

Petch so over rated on this board, one thing he has is speed, i cannot remember the last time i saw him rundown an opponent from behind, he is the most bruise free footballer i have seen. Loves nothing better than standing out in space waiting for the cheapie.

Ryan he is in the same boat, and epitomises the down hill skier tag we have, yep he had a great year last year, and that was in part due to shorter quarters which meant he did not have to go as hard for longer, plus blokes out meant he had to step up, he is just plain lazy at times.

Cripps used to be a pressure footballer, but time has caught up with him, time to go.

Langdon is just an honest trier, nothing more nothing less, not quick, not a long kick, not great with his hands and certainly not a pressure footballer.

Oscar is wasted being third banana, we need to find a way to make him being the focus of this forward line, kid has a great footy brain and a can take a great mark, but does not get that chance with the 3rd forward.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Unpopular opinion i'm guessing, but for me our big problem is our forward line, their is zero pressure from any of them when the ball hits the deck. Teams set up the majority of their attacks from the backline knowing their will be no pressure.

Petch so over rated on this board, one thing he has is speed, i cannot remember the last time i saw him rundown an opponent from behind, he is the most bruise free footballer i have seen. Loves nothing better than standing out in space waiting for the cheapie.

Ryan he is in the same boat, and epitomises the down hill skier tag we have, yep he had a great year last year, and that was in part due to shorter quarters which meant he did not have to go as hard for longer, plus blokes out meant he had to step up, he is just plain lazy at times.

Cripps used to be a pressure footballer, but time has caught up with him, time to go.

Langdon is just an honest trier, nothing more nothing less, not quick, not a long kick, not great with his hands and certainly not a pressure footballer.

Oscar is wasted being third banana, we need to find a way to make him being the focus of this forward line, kid has a great footy brain and a can take a great mark, but does not get that chance with the 3rd forward.

Not as if we have anyone waiting to replace the small forwards.

 

[Footfalcon]

I’m 100% convinced it is a game plan issue.

The back line ball movement was painfully slow like the past two weeks, however it was obvious that no one was running to provide leads...

Hurn still kicking to the same ****ing spot, until the last 6 minutes of the game.

Rotham clearly is under instructions to piss around with the ball. He was easily our best back man, showed class early, dominant against his man and should’ve been put on the two haired lip who tore us one.

I didn’t see Shuey until the fourth where he moved from the out to the in. Clear midfield chemistry is off.

Darling, Ryan and petch provide no forward pressure.
Why on earth isn’t Ryan rotated in the square and dedicate darling to running leads up the ground (not standing on the ball drop and losing a one on one arm wrestle)
Worked well against Carlton. (Stale coaching)

 

[Magnum27]

Not as if we have anyone waiting to replace the small forwards.

I understand, just shows how bad a space we are in with our list thanks to the Kelly trade.

 

[Obeanie1]

Too many egos, time to prick a few at the selection table

Gov, Gaff, Darling, Ryan, Kelly and Cripps are senior players who are under performing big time

Simpson eyes are on you, time to make a statement

Just one. Gov.

Put down the hammer and drop him. Running around getting a milliion $ and thinks that and his rep is enough.

You want to make a big statement. There it is.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yep. Statements need to be made at the selection table. Not Ah Chee for Vardy.

For the first time in 11 years I am genuinely embarrassed to be associated with the club.

If we can't beat North at home with basically a full strength side, who can we beat.

Anyone ....... as long as the sun is shining, birds are singing and the slope we are running on is down hill AND DRY!

 

[GeelongEagle]

Unpopular opinion i'm guessing, but for me our big problem is our forward line, their is zero pressure from any of them when the ball hits the deck. Teams set up the majority of their attacks from the backline knowing their will be no pressure. You have to wonder if that is why the blokes further up the field pause knowing if they kick it a contest and we don't mark it it is coming straight back out which it usually does these days with ease.

Petch so over rated on this board, one thing he has is speed, i cannot remember the last time i saw him rundown an opponent from behind, he is the most bruise free footballer i have seen. Loves nothing better than standing out in space waiting for the cheapie.

Ryan he is in the same boat, and epitomises the down hill skier tag we have, yep he had a great year last year, and that was in part due to shorter quarters which meant he did not have to go as hard for longer, plus blokes out meant he had to step up, he is just plain lazy at times, and would rather do the fancy than the hard work.

Cripps used to be a pressure footballer, but time has caught up with him, time to go.

Langdon is just an honest trier, nothing more nothing less, not quick, not a long kick, not great with his hands and certainly not a pressure footballer.

Oscar is wasted being third banana, we need to find a way to make him being the focus of this forward line, kid has a great footy brain and a can take a great mark, but does not get that chance with the 3rd forward.

JK- Legend of the club, but by him playing on is he holding Oscar back, not his fault anymore, but the one thing that made him a step above the other key forwards of his era was his tackling and chasing, the poor bloke just can get his body to do it any more, i want to him to stay but in some ways i think he should also move on.

JD- Cops some heat for some of his efforts, which can be fair at times, but how many times does he provide a contest and crash a pack, i watched him in the Sydney game live and he did it all day, and yes chasing used to be a feature with him as well, getting beat up in a marking contest may have something to do with that.

Our forward line is screaming out for some honest hard-tackling pressure players. Langdon looks like he has been picked for this role, but so far he has not quite delivered. Would West be better suited to this? Maybe Hutchings?
JK can have one more year playing out of the goal square and is not allowed to leave the 50. He also becomes the forward-line coach.
I agree with Darling's work rate, but it is having zero impact on the game. Where are Ryan, Cripps, Petch and Langdon at the fall of the ball when he crashes a pack? He must be so frustrated putting his body on the line with no one else bothering to run to the contest. No wonder he is lacking a second effort when the ball hits the deck.
Allen is often caught in no man's land. With quicker ball movement off the HB line, he should be used as the second CHF. He and Darling lead to different spots and we kick to whoever is more open. Then we must have the mids tearing into the contest to either crumb, pressure the fall of the ball or receive a handball from the mark.

 

[Obeanie1]

If you watched that game in isolation then you would think we were the bottom side with crabs such as Darling, McGovern, Langdon and Cole to be pensioned off as we stock up in the draft.

Actually thought Darling, Cole and Langdon were better thqn most.

Petruccelle again was invisible. Gaff and Sheed just lack the speedtoget clear and effect decent kicks.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Darling has kicked 1 goal in a whole month of football. 1 solitary goal

Sheed with another 8 clangers this week. Most on the ground. Again. 2 weeks in a row now Dom

Got comprehensively outplayed in just about every facet of the game outside of clearances. Contested ball, tackles, just simply out hunted by a team who wanted the footy more, ran harder and actually showed some ticker. And this is the worst team in the comp we're talking about

Not enough people on here are given the Kanga Kanga Kanga Roo Roo Roo's enough credit. Yes they are a laughing stock generally, but they had a good win and were clearly the better team. We'd have pinched it if we kept the momentum from that burst in Q4. It's fitting that we lost in the end because we suck.



Naitanui put further claims on winning our B&F

20 disposals, 17 contested (most on the ground), 10 clearances (most on the ground) and 37 hitouts, with 2 contested marks and 134 ranking points. Cringeworthy he went at 30% DE though








I dare you to send another email Nesbitt. Do it plz.

 

[Wild Kelly]

You mean the year he was played specifically off the back of the goal square to run through for run, carry and class. Kicked 32.21,had 15 goal assists and 70 tackles playing half forward in the final year of his career with a lot of it coming running from the defensive half. Stacks up pretty well with any of our small forwards at the moment.

He and his brother kicked 21 goals between them for the Jurien Bay Bulldogs on the weekend. Brent 16 and Mark 5.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Unpopular opinion i'm guessing, but for me our big problem is our forward line, their is zero pressure from any of them when the ball hits the deck. Teams set up the majority of their attacks from the backline knowing their will be no pressure. You have to wonder if that is why the blokes further up the field pause knowing if they kick it a contest and we don't mark it it is coming straight back out which it usually does these days with ease.

Petch so over rated on this board, one thing he has is speed, i cannot remember the last time i saw him rundown an opponent from behind, he is the most bruise free footballer i have seen. Loves nothing better than standing out in space waiting for the cheapie.

Ryan he is in the same boat, and epitomises the down hill skier tag we have, yep he had a great year last year, and that was in part due to shorter quarters which meant he did not have to go as hard for longer, plus blokes out meant he had to step up, he is just plain lazy at times, and would rather do the fancy than the hard work.

Cripps used to be a pressure footballer, but time has caught up with him, time to go.

Langdon is just an honest trier, nothing more nothing less, not quick, not a long kick, not great with his hands and certainly not a pressure footballer.

Oscar is wasted being third banana, we need to find a way to make him being the focus of this forward line, kid has a great footy brain and a can take a great mark, but does not get that chance with the 3rd forward.

JK- Legend of the club, but by him playing on is he holding Oscar back, not his fault anymore, but the one thing that made him a step above the other key forwards of his era was his tackling and chasing, the poor bloke just can get his body to do it any more, i want to him to stay but in some ways i think he should also move on.

JD- Cops some heat for some of his efforts, which can be fair at times, but how many times does he provide a contest and crash a pack, i watched him in the Sydney game live and he did it all day, and yes chasing used to be a feature with him as well, getting beat up in a marking contest may have something to do with that.

Playing the 3 talls, and very often this year 4, will do that. It works ok in fine conditions because they pluck some big marks, but we NEVER adjust the side to the conditions. We have to "play our way". It's dumb football.

Cripps should've been dropped a long time ago, is offering precisely nothing now.

Need to view the last few rounds as practise games for next year nd start tinkering with our structure. Needs a complete overhaul but might aswell sow the seeds now. Play any promising kid we have on our list, even if it means dropping guys with "runs on the board" which seems to be sacrilege for our MC

 

[JinmboJones]

This. I don't mind kick and mark football BUT YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO RUN AND CREATE SPACE. Our entire team just stands around and nobody is leading so we kick it to a contest EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. It's not working Simpson! Either the players are too unfit to make it work or we don't move it fast enough therefore there's no space every time we try and move the ball.

So glad I turned up at the ground to watch that absolute garbage.

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[FKASC]

Playing the 3 talls, and very often this year 4, will do that. It works ok in fine conditions because they pluck some big marks, but we NEVER adjust the side to the conditions. We have to "play our way". It's dumb football.

Cripps should've been dropped a long time ago, is offering precisely nothing now.

Need to view the last few rounds as practise games for next year nd start tinkering with our structure. Needs a complete overhaul but might aswell sow the seeds now. Play any promising kid we have on our list, even if it means dropping guys with "runs on the board" which seems to be sacrilege for our MC

Cripps has deserved to be dropped several times over the last few years but has somehow become an untouchable. despite being a pretty mediocre player since he stopped tackling so much.

He could have been given a role as a tagger to try and change things up because when he’s out of form he’s a liability as a small forward.

 

[Westend]

This. I don't mind kick and mark football BUT YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO RUN AND CREATE SPACE. Our entire team just stands around and nobody is leading so we kick it to a contest EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. It's not working Simpson! Either the players are too unfit to make it work or we don't move it fast enough therefore there's no space every time we try and move the ball.

So glad I turned up at the ground to watch that absolute garbage.

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Yeah I was there and it was not fun

Not good times atm the leaders have to stand up unfortunately they are not.

We cannot drop them all even though they deserve it...it has to come from all the players/coaches they need to work hard to turn this crap around

 

[garlic munchers]

Results don’t lie, we are cooked.

If another team’s supporters were arguing they remained in contention with 2 near 100 point floggings, crap %, losing to the bottom side and being marginally better than 4 sides sitting below them in 9 to 12, we would be saying they are delusional.

 

[Lach72]

Surely Saints hold onto Dunstan with his recent form. Tell ya what have enjoyed him as a draft pick up in fantasy football.

Did not realise at all he was already 26, time flies...

It would be a very Saints thing to let Dunstan go...they tell him he won't be picked because he's bit good enough...he proves he be picked by playing great VFL...then he and Steele are the reasons they're playing great footy...then they let him go

 

[Trouto]

i notice the OP left out "positives" in the title, i disagree with this. Losing to North IS a positive, seriously. Winning against the bottom side at home would have been a no-win situation and just smooth over a multitude of cracks that this team has at the moment.

We need to face up to the obvious:

1. The game plan is not working - it is a decent plan when you have great weather and players at their peak;
2. Many of the players are getting to the end and they are still being encouraged to keep playing; and
3. there is not much talent in our youth playing at the Beagles (harsh, but we have plenty of players who have been around for a while and continue to not show much).

We need a full clean out, both players and staff. My thoughts are it will be a 2-4 year process where we off load a couple of players who are still good but aging, for decent picks and build again.

 

[Cuzz09]

but if we win our remaining games we can win it from 8th

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[Rowan18]

Dylan is right, gameplan is cooked and the players know it. I spent a fair bit of time watching the players off the ball and the frustration is clear to see. Second efforts were non existent for some (Cripps/Ryan etc) as they are giving up. Sheppard going for those runs in the 4th was great to get the ball forward, but clearly not the role he usually plays. Looked like he cracked it and just had to try something.

Gov is a liability. Is probably playing his role, but it needs to change. The opposition just kick over him.

Looks to me like Simpson is losing the players. Needs to make some changes quickly. I don't know what terms he extended his contract on, but our club isn't going to accept this sort of shit for too long. I'm sure they'll give him next year with a new bunch of assistants, but there is far too much talent on this list to be dishing up this crap.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

We all hope this result will a turning point for Simmo & the MC, but we all know it will be another false dawn for things to finally change.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

One of two things needed to happen in this game:

1. Strong win with a clearly altered game plan
or
2. A loss

Anything in between (e.g. holding onto our 10 point lead in the last qtr) would have further fueled the clubs delusion that they're in contention and just need a few tweaks to make an impact in September.

So in my mind this was a good result.

 

[Agent93]

Still waiting for Simpson to send someone to Stephenson. He played a ripper game tonight but was allowed to do so. Why is that?

CC, it was pretty cool and windy out there last night. No need to send an extra man to be the 'cooler'.

 

[Trouto]

We all hope this result will a turning point for Simmo & the MC, but we all know it will be another false dawn for things to finally change.

yeah i didnt hear too much in his presser that said he would make changes....