Review Negatives vs North Melbourne

[Bender_]

Waking up this morning I wasn't sure if it was a bad dream.

Then I had to go to work.

 

[Cuzz09]

Im more of thinking the more losses like this we have the better.

Force change. Somewhere, somehow.

If we scraped over the line it covers the mess we're in.

Been playing meh for a few years now.

2018 the exception out of the box season

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[mad_eagle]

gee whiz, you know you're in a rough trot when you get burnt by the Norf social media intern...

 

[Bender_]

gee whiz, you know you're in a rough trot when you get burnt by the Norf social media intern...

Respect the effort - they had to go to the local library to use their PC and WiFi just to fire off that tweet.

 

[Goroyals22]

That play right there shows everything wrong with the side at the moment…. But credits in the bank… and 1.2 million also


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[Winky]

Just one. Gov.

Put down the hammer and drop him. Running around getting a milliion $ and thinks that and his rep is enough.

You want to make a big statement. There it is.

Agree> He is out of form and is sometimes a liability in the backline due to lack of mobility. I've though that as he has been out of form for over a year now, maybe he could be the change ruckman instead of Oscar...he always fancied himself as one and reads the play well enough to add something more along with his marking and kicking, which admittedly are off at the moment but may improve given as different role

 

[StCicatriz]

Surely Saints hold onto Dunstan with his recent form. Tell ya what have enjoyed him as a draft pick up in fantasy football.

Did not realise at all he was already 26, time flies...

i think we may have burnt that bridge. the other problem we have with dunstan is that we have a number of guys now out of the side that play a more ttacking role.

Gresham will be back next year
Bytel is starting to build very solid form in the VFL
Clark is out and will be back soon
Coffield is out and will be back soon

plus Byrnes we want to keep in the side

then we are going to hit the draft and the assumption is it will be midfielders

 

[Dark Sharks]

Personally i think Fatboy McGovern is even less effective now with the stand the mark rule.


Opposition players can sweep past for an overlapping handball, or even the person taking the kick themselves gets more time and have less pressure on them to look up the ground now.

If they see fatass sitting there down the line obviously it's easier to kick around him in 2021, compared to having a person on the mark jumping up and down, moving sideways and potentially rushing you into taking your kick quicker.

 

[Bacchus]

i think we may have burnt that bridge. the other problem we have with dunstan is that we have a number of guys now out of the side that play a more ttacking role.

Gresham will be back next year
Bytel is starting to build very solid form in the VFL
Clark is out and will be back soon
Coffield is out and will be back soon

plus Byrnes we want to keep in the side

then we are going to hit the draft and the assumption is it will be midfielders

I think Dunstan would offer a fair bit to our team, I have always thought he was a pretty decent player.

 

[DanWCE]

For all the comments on NN not going with Goldy, how often do you see Nic on the defensive goal line to mark/spoil? It's not his role. He stays outside of that area so if we turn it over or they score a point we have a marking/bring the ball to ground target up the field.

I feel like it's been this way for some time now. The earlier post highlighted our good representation in the area, they were just poorly positioned and didn't communicate.

 

[West Coast 06]

Darling, Cripps and Gov. All three must be dropped. All three have done SFA recently and dropping them makes a statement to everyone.
Season has been shot since the bye, when we welcomed our “saviours” back from injury. Play the kids, they were doing better than the saviours anyway!

 

[Goroyals22]

For all the comments on NN not going with Goldy, how often do you see Nic on the defensive goal line to mark/spoil? It's not his role. He stays outside of that area so if we turn it over or they score a point we have a marking/bring the ball to ground target up the field.

I feel like it's been this way for some time now. The earlier post highlighted our good representation in the area, they were just poorly positioned and didn't communicate.

That’s garbage.. I could accept that if he did actually do that but he doesn’t, he rarely marks and he often isn’t even good enough to get to the contest.

His last quarter was actually all over the place… two goals up and he hits the next centre bounce to the defensive side and north sweep it forward.. because he cant go more than 5 mins he then is taken off where theres a ball up on our half back line which results in allen getting pantsed and a goal within 5 seconds of him going off. Then their next goal comes from a thro in in the back pocket while he is still on the bench a couple of mins later ..
he went at 30% yes he won clearances but if there is no connection forward what was the point.. .. we wont win a thing with him in the side. We loose just as much by playing him than we win from the things he does well.


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[kaII]

Anyone who focuses on nicnat's game last night has the IQ of a rock

 

[Bacchus]

That’s garbage.. I could accept that if he did actually do that but he doesn’t, he rarely marks and he often isn’t even good enough to get to the contest.

His last quarter was actually all over the place… two goals up and he hits the next centre bounce to the defensive side and north sweep it forward.. because he cant go more than 5 mins he then is taken off where theres a ball up on our half back line which results in allen getting pantsed and a goal within 5 seconds of him going off. Then their next goal comes from a thro in in the back pocket while he is still on the bench a couple of mins later ..
he went at 30% yes he won clearances but if there is no connection forward what was the point.. .. we wont win a thing with him in the side. We loose just as much by playing him than we win from the things he does well.


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Every other ruckman we have gets slaughtered. Our potency at stoppages is chalk and cheese between when Nic Nat is there and when he is not. His effort cannot be questioned, a number of his clearance kicks went to the opposition but where were the forwards reading the quick kicks and contesting?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

-Somebody;anybody; teach Rotham how to kick a short pass.Its like hes chicken shit scared of stuffing up.
-OAllen youve done nothing for weeks now.Stop worrying about the big fly.Youre very good on the ground.Im sick of seeing three forwards flying together for a wet footy.Its not gunna happen!!! We need people on the ground,teams are rebounding too fast out of our forward lone.
-Shuey;your our captain and a fine footballer your not from Rent A Thug.HUNT THE FOOTY!!!
-Gaff,Sheed,Kelly, whats with the one two one two handballs when your a couple of metres apart.Its a wet ball; take the responsibility of disposing of the ball.
-Whats with the plethora of short sharp under pressure sideways passers?? It NEVER ends well!!
-Barass marks some but flies for far too many wet ball pack marks.Go the punch young man.We watch the kick come in and we have two-three fliers and nobody on the ground.Kindagarten stuff.
-Forwards need to be in front on a wet day esp!! and not 60-70m from the kicker.
-Yoey needs to look sideways ala Ryan when charging forward,not bomb it 60m to whoever.
-We seem so scared of losing its like we go into our shells. Start enjoying your footy.
-Shep; surprise me; go forward with one of your kicks.Everytime you get a kick at CHB we call it immediately! "boundary"!!

 

[Gwaihir]

-Somebody;anybody; teach Rotham how to kick a short pass.Its like hes chicken sh*t scared of stuffing up.

Poor guy froze up kicking in to the centre square. Knew he would get a bake for it at the break. Seriously though, after being faux tuff man, he has to make that kick. Can not recall us using the corridor all night. To the wings!

 

[Balls In]

Pavlich's comment after another of our inexplicable chip kicks sideways got intercepted.

"Its dare I say it predictable that westcoast will kick it wide when they get it in the corridor, North Melbourne are just setting up for it"

Can't stand the prick but he is right. Everyone can see it and yet we still do it.

 

[Matera92]

Pavlich's comment after another of our inexplicable chip kicks sideways got intercepted.

"Its dare I say it predictable that westcoast is kick wide when they get it in the corridor, North Melbourne are just setting up for it"

Can't stand the prick but he is right. Everyone can see it and yet we still do it.

The irony being Simpson repeats week after week "Don't get beaten by what you know."

This is showing a startling lack of self awareness when he's unable to critique his own game plan.

 

[KBLT]

come in peace, i don't think the loss is as bad as some will make out. there's still key pillars of a great side here, you just need more help around them.

i think the big one you are missing is an inside bull. kelly is great but he's not a bull and never will be. shuey has dash. gaff is great as an endurance running mid. redden probably was this guy but he's out and Yeo is great in there but is used where the problems are. he can't be everywhere at once. i'd make him captain TBH!

so here's why i am posting. i think Luke Dunstan's emergence could be a cheapish replacement for redden and give you a servicable soldier on the inside who can also do a shut down role. means you can be less reliant on Yeo, free him up a little, playing a more attacking role at the stoppage, whilst luke nullify's the oppos best inside mid.

he's a UFA so it means you don't blow a pick on him. allowing you to hit the draft to start to rebuild some of the midfield and flanks. he'll also come pretty cheap salary wise so he wouldn't break the bank.

Would like to pick him up tbh.

 

[Bacchus]

Would like to pick him up tbh.

We need a player who can get the ball in the packs and distribute it. Sheed is not that player, Kelly is not that player, Redden is not that player, Shuey is not that player, Gaff is not that player. Yeo is a bull but is just regaining fitness and form. Need a player ready to go, not a 19 year old, and the fact he is free trade-wise is attractive.

 

[Spoon_Man]

Poor guy froze up kicking in to the centre square. Knew he would get a bake for it at the break. Seriously though, after being faux tuff man, he has to make that kick. Can not recall us using the corridor all night. To the wings!

All of you that supported Return the Wings have a lot to answer for...

 

[kranky al]

I think it comes back to too many players arent subject to pressure from below.

Too many players come straight back in underdone - and not after dominant displays of 4 quarter efforts in the wafl.

Noone wants to play macgoos.

 

[Bender_]

Seriously though, after being faux tuff man, he has to make that kick.

Not sure he was trying to be a tough guy, got roughed up after a mark and reacted. Rather he did that than roll-over and ask for another beating. Despite that yes his kick was terrible.

 

[Bender_]

Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

: "Eagles are so conservative and scared to use the corridor they just keep going to the wings."

Also Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

: "Great work from the Kangaroos there, recognised there was no way through the corridor and used the wings."

 

[Winky]

Darling, Cripps and Gov. All three must be dropped. All three have done SFA recently and dropping them makes a statement to everyone.
Season has been shot since the bye, when we welcomed our “saviours” back from injury. Play the kids, they were doing better than the saviours anyway!

Don't know why Darling should be dropped. He works his arse off and has been our best forward until the last few weeks and even then has been OK but not as dominant. He does look a lot slower and maybe just needs to back off a bit with the training load. It's the same as people having a go at Redden. People just don't seem to see the workrate and value of Darling and also Redden because they are not always flashy but they bring other players into the game.