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Our captains lost us the game. Both gave away stupid free kicks which resulted in goals
Infuriated me. A captain does what Cotchin did when Franklin smashed him, not the bullshit those two pulled.
 
Technically a 50m penalty. Myself personally, I would like to see this black and white stuff you are talking about. Problem is our rules at times can be subjective and each person’s interpretation can be different.

I suppose in the end we have a great game and that is its flaw. I think us as supporters pray something like that doesnt happen in one of our matches.

in the end how would we feel if a granny was decided on an event exactly like last night?

Would it really be fair to award a 50, for a player celebrating winning a premiership by kicking the ball away after not hearing the free but hearing the siren? What if that meant his team lost?

I don’t know, I really don’t. It’s why I think the 50m should be reduced to 25m.

Ill leave u guys be … I’ve given myself a headache thinking about what I’ve written and imagining cfc on both sides of that question.
I didn't sée the free for Prestia. I have no problems how it ended although inconsistent based on other decisions where 50 MTS was paid.
 

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Thought Gibcus was pretty good …certainly in the first half…he won that battle v Buddy

Remember Buddy got a couple of soft frees in the 3rd…that helped Buddy and the swans moment

It’s a massive challenge for Gibbo to defend when the ball was on constant entry in the last quarter

gibbo also not as tall (196 v 199cm) and strength …(86 kg v 106 kg) …fair task


Gibbo can hold his head up
Finally a sensible comment on the matter.
 
Yep both Captains have been underwhelming this year as leaders.
Both not leading by example.

Nank in particular just isn't the man for the job at all. Too hot blooded.
wat. They've both been sensational.

Also Cotchin was the exact same. You say its not leading my example, but maybe that is the example. We play on the edge, sometimes it ****s us, but overall its our style of play and it won us 3 flags.
 
If you watched how Cotchin played the game and his manner with the group as they went off at half time - he is the true captain when they play. The other two are great players, but they can't lead like him.
 
wat. They've both been sensational.

Also Cotchin was the exact same. You say its not leading my example, but maybe that is the example. We play on the edge, sometimes it ducks us, but overall its our style of play and it won us 3 flags.
We had the side to back it up, we were like Brazil in soccer, you can score goals we'll just score more. We were nearly unstoppable. We're not that side anymore and we can't afford to gift goals to average sides like Sydney.
 
wat. They've both been sensational.

Also Cotchin was the exact same. You say its not leading my example, but maybe that is the example. We play on the edge, sometimes it ducks us, but overall its our style of play and it won us 3 flags.
Beg to differ.
The team has had discipline issues all year and its costing us big time.
Dimma talks about it after every game.
 
I get your points and it’s a well constructed argument. As a neutral who admittedly wanted the Swans to win I can’t stand here with my head on my heart thinking if this happened to my team I wouldn’t be up in arms either.

I think to a degree you are right that something needs to be done about umpiring but that also there is a reason behind the AFL commission bringing in the 50m dissent rule.

We are facing a crisis in our umpiring stocks.

I really think the AFL should look to train youngish but with at least 4-5 years AFL experience delisted AFL players as umpires. Give them a decent wedge and see if that works.

I agree we need to do more for umpiring, honestly could you do such a thankless, everyone hating and throwing insults at you job … not me!
The AFL should educate. They might in their education, teach that even though officiating itself is a competitive sport, not too many cheers are for you. The earlier the better. You do not participate in the sport of officiating for accolades from crowd, media, club coaches or players.

Greater than any sport, the whole of life is about reaction to rules and regulation. Expect dissent if you are an official. As in life, protect against and penalize strongly those who become violent.

Good officials get recognition for game sense and flow. This should be the both the teaching and the application of the sport of officiating. Several new rules with penalties introduced this century have poorly addressed the intent of a flowing game. The result is more whistles, greater penalties, more stops with opportunity for dissent and thus more more chance for another whistle with another penalty. Ineffective cycle.

I contend that the increased complexity of the rules, has resulted in the game of officiating being more demanding to play. No one wants harder to play and therefore there will be fewer officials.
 

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I didn't sée the free for Prestia. I have no problems how it ended although inconsistent based on other decisions where 50 MTS was paid.
Yeah, I used to get really riled up by the umpires, someone then made me really look at it and in all honesty, 99% of the time the better team wins so it’s just easier to go with the flow …. Swings and round abouts sorta thing.

Still last night would have been a toughie for me even with my new approach.

I also think when you cough up a winning lead that also can make it so much worse. I thought your coach took the high road quite well after the loss.
 
Yeah, I used to get really riled up by the umpires, someone then made me really look at it and in all honesty, 99% of the time the better team wins so it’s just easier to go with the flow …. Swings and round abouts sorta thing.

Still last night would have been a toughie for me even with my new approach.

I also think when you cough up a winning lead that also can make it so much worse. I thought your coach took the high road quite well after the loss.
99% of the time the better team wins you say despite blatant umpiring inadecuacy. You come into our forum to tell me that? I tell you what - **** off with your woke agenda umpire bullshit and stick to talk to your own about 99%.
 
it’s crazy to think that was payed … but it won’t be called out ..the media are to piss weak …. That’s just wrong … AFLX here we come …
 
If you watched how Cotchin played the game and his manner with the group as they went off at half time - he is the true captain when they play. The other two are great players, but they can't lead like him.
Cotchin in his first year of captaincy couldn't lead like him. Or his 2nd. 3rd. 4th. It wasn't to year 5 where he found his style.

Obviously Cotchin was also a younger player and Nank and Grimes won't take as long as they already know who they are as players, but they are 11 and 7 games into it. Give them a chance to learn.
 
That’s for sure. It really amazes me the amount of people that are saying top4. We have not won a game vs anyone in the 8. Sadly we will be a bottom 8 club this season.
As the siren went at the end of rd1 last year, thought to myself....we're in for a bad year. We won, but we didn't look like reigning premiers. We had lost confidence and connection. We were fumbly, second guessed ourselves, didn't run in numbers, went backwards and sideways.
 
Cotchin in his first year of captaincy couldn't lead like him. Or his 2nd. 3rd. 4th. It wasn't to year 5 where he found his style.

Obviously Cotchin was also a younger player and Nank and Grimes won't take as long as they already know who they are as players, but they are 11 and 7 games into it. Give them a chance to learn.
Cotchin is our onfield Captain currently, pure and simple. I don't know who you are referring to, but both Captains last night didn't act like Captains with ridiculous give away frees.
 

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