Round 3:- Changes against Essendon? Merged threads.

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

That's the advantage of having Jacobs in our side. He is hard to just push out of the way, and he will make the other rucks earn every tap out. Not to mention he is pretty handy as well in the ruck, even if he breaks even it's a win for us.

 

[Gibba]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

The upside of Jacobs is enormous, probably even more than Hampson.

 

[Ryan Dixon Webb]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

The upside of Jacobs is enormous, probably even more than Hampson.

Hampson's upside is much more exciting than Jacobs, having said that though at the moment Jacobs is the superior option as Hampson has yet to show his potential as an elite ruckman.

 

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Hampson's upside is much more exciting than Jacobs, having said that though at the moment Jacobs is the superior option as Hampson has yet to show his potential as an elite ruckman.

Jacobs>>>>Hampson.

 

[bluekidjoe]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

I haven't given it too much thought but off the top I reckon Grigg, Stevo and Carlos should all come in..

Grigg for Joseph - I understand the AJ has not done a lot wrong and he's a lil hard nut, but i feel that grigg can negate players just as efficiently and the run and experience out of defence is more valuable.

Stevens for Johnson - Stevens has a good boot, and did most of our kicking out before Johnson, i just feel that having stevo coming out of the back half will give us a little more and with scotland back there too the dons will have no chance.

Carlos for Jamison - with the injury to jammo i think setanta is the best option as he is tall and athletic, he can cover lloyd, and also if they decide to rest hille forward (which could be dangerous) setanta is of the best size to cover him.

Just thoughts..

 

[Jellycup_84]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

I haven't given it too much thought but off the top I reckon Grigg, Stevo and Carlos should all come in..

Grigg for Joseph - I understand the AJ has not done a lot wrong and he's a lil hard nut, but i feel that grigg can negate players just as efficiently and the run and experience out of defence is more valuable.

Stevens for Johnson - Stevens has a good boot, and did most of our kicking out before Johnson, i just feel that having stevo coming out of the back half will give us a little more and with scotland back there too the dons will have no chance.

Carlos for Jamison - with the injury to jammo i think setanta is the best option as he is tall and athletic, he can cover lloyd, and also if they decide to rest hille forward (which could be dangerous) setanta is of the best size to cover him.

Just thoughts..

i think aj will retain his position he has done everything asked of him the past few weeks not sure about carlos coming in could be touch and go there.

my opinion

in: grigg, stevens

out: jamo, gartlett

garlett just looked scared for me as a result some poor decisions in the forward line, i think once he hits the weights and increases the his disposal effiiency will be a huge asset for us

 

[Cruiser23]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

i think aj will retain his position he has done everything asked of him the past few weeks not sure about carlos coming in could be touch and go there.

my opinion

in: grigg, stevens

out: jamo, gartlett

garlett just looked scared for me as a result some poor decisions in the forward line, i think once he hits the weights and increases the his disposal effiiency will be a huge asset for us

So we replace a key defender and a small forward for two midfielders/half backmen, that won't happen.

 

[Blue since 72]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Irish for Jamo
Stevens for Garlett
AJ to play on Lovett or maybe Davey, if so Russell to cover Lovett.
No way Jacobs will be dropped and Ratts will stick to minimal changes until somebody plays an obvious shocker.

 

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Yarran in 3 weeks if he keeps performing in the reserves.

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

So we replace a key defender and a small forward for two midfielders/half backmen, that won't happen.

\\Grigg and Strevens

Bolster up the midfield and smash them between the arcs and they will be absolutely crushed!!!!


Why bring in another tall??????

 

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Because we might need another tall?

 

[Cruiser23]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

\\Grigg and Strevens

Bolster up the midfield and smash them between the arcs and they will be absolutely crushed!!!!


Why bring in another tall??????

Give me players to play on these without adding Irish or Austin:

Lloyd -->
Lucas -->
Neagle (will be picked now McPhee is out) -->
Hille (when he ventures forward) -->
Ryder (when he is give a run up forward -->

Obviously they won't be playing all 5 down there at one time but Waite has been fantastic in that attacking role off half back, if another tall doesn't come in he'll have to play tight on one of their talls. This totally disrupts the game plan and structure we have been using.

 

[BlueYoss]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Obviously they won't be playing all 5 down there at one time but Waite has been fantastic in that attacking role off half back, if another tall doesn't come in he'll have to play tight on one of their talls. This totally disrupts the game plan and structure we have been using.

Not to mention that defensive 1-on-1 work close to goal does is nowhere near Waite's strongest suit.

He's awesome coming in as third man up to help our other defenders spoil.
He's awesome reading the play and marking opposition kicks into their attack.
He's awesome at breaking tackles and lines providing run out of defence.
He's awesome at creating scoring opportunities running forward.
He's awesome at 'tagging' the big men with freakish endurance who push up the wings all day.

And he is capable as a negating 1-on-1 KPD player.

Ratten's reluctance move Waite onto a red hot Bradshaw last week after Jamison went off injured should be enough indication that Waite being 'wasted' as a negating 1-on-1 KPD player is very much a last resort.

I'd therefore say that Setanta (or possibly Bannister) will come in for Jamo so that Waite continues in his current role.

Stevens is said to be an automatic inclusion, which I accept, but who will make way for him is anyone's guess, and will no doubt be unlucky.

Having said that, I can't see Garlett being the unlucky one when Ratts seems to see him as being one of the players setting the chasing and tackling benchmark which has been our biggest asset so far this season.

And please, enough with the baseless claims about his poor fragile body needing a rest. The kid played 20 senior games against men last year (his second season) for Swan Districts on the back of some very compromising living conditions. Read up on some of his background and the adversary he has survived before questioning his resilience.

In: Stevens, O'hAilpin/Bannister
Out: Jamison, Anyone'sGuess/IdoubtGarlett

 

[Cruiser23]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Not to mention that defensive 1-on-1 work close to goal does is nowhere near Waite's strongest suit.

He's awesome coming in as third man up to help our other defenders spoil.
He's awesome reading the play and marking opposition kicks into their attack.
He's awesome at breaking tackles and lines providing run out of defence.
He's awesome at creating scoring opportunities running forward.
He's awesome at 'tagging' the big men with freakish endurance who push up the wings all day.

And he is capable as a negating 1-on-1 KPD player.

Ratten's reluctance move Waite onto a red hot Bradshaw last week after Jamison went off injured should be enough indication that Waite being 'wasted' as a negating 1-on-1 KPD player is very much a last resort.

I'd therefore say that Setanta (or possibly Bannister) will come in for Jamo so that Waite continues in his current role.

Stevens is said to be an automatic inclusion, which I accept, but who will make way for him is anyone's guess, and will no doubt be unlucky.

Having said that, I can't see Garlett being the unlucky one when Ratts seems to see him as being one of the players setting the chasing and tackling benchmark which has been our biggest asset so far this season.

And please, enough with the baseless claims about his poor fragile body needing a rest. The kid played 20 senior games against men last year (his second season) for Swan Districts on the back of some very compromising living conditions. Read up on some of his background and the adversary he has survived before questioning his resilience.

In: Stevens, O'hAilpin/Bannister
Out: Jamison, Anyone'sGuess/IdoubtGarlett

Absolutely spot on Yossy, very well said.

The changes will be very interesting. I think we'll be reluctant to make too many but the temptation may be too great. A tall should/will come in for Jamo and Setanta/Bannister/Austin will likely get the call up. For me Scotland looked lost on Saturday night, not sure whether he needs to have a spell in the 2's as he had a very interrupted pre-season. Bring Stevens/Grigg in could also mean Chris Johnson is expendable, while he hasn't been horrible, i don't think there is any argument that the two mention above provide more than Johnson across half back/midfield.

 

[BLue_Bloys]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Give me players to play on these without adding Irish or Austin:

Lloyd -->
Lucas -->
Neagle (will be picked now McPhee is out) -->
Hille (when he ventures forward) -->
Ryder (when he is give a run up forward -->

Obviously they won't be playing all 5 down there at one time but Waite has been fantastic in that attacking role off half back, if another tall doesn't come in he'll have to play tight on one of their talls. This totally disrupts the game plan and structure we have been using.

Whilst I think Setanta should come in.....if Lloyd plays up the ground once again Waite should play an attacking role on him until he eventually gets moved forward ala Richo, then I'd play Setanta on him.

Thornton - Neagle
Bower - Lucas
Waite - Lloyd
Setanta - Hille / Ryder

As BlueYoss has pointed out Waites strength isn't 1on1 like Setanta, play the boy to his strength If we are pro active we can help dictate the match ups

 

[true_blue_69]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

sorry if this has been posted already but this from CFC website.


http://www.carltonfc.com.au/season2008/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/74497/default.aspx


CARLTON has plenty of options when it comes to replacing injured defender Michael Jamison this week, according to Northern Bullants coach David Teague.

With Jamison set to miss at least a fortnight with the shoulder ailment he picked up against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night, the Blues need to find another key defensive post to replace the 22-year-old.

Teague said there were plenty of encouraging performances in the Bullants' final practice match last weekend, and believed Brett Ratten had a number of alternatives when naming a replacement for this Saturday night's clash with Essendon.

"Nick Stevens played with us, and he's obviously a quality footballer and will probably go back into the team this week," he told carltonfc.com.au on Monday.

"He won't go back to fullback where Jamison plays, but he'll be putting his hand up. Shaun Grigg will definitely be putting his hand up, and Dennis Armfield, Brad Fisher and Steven Browne are the other three who have played solid footy the last couple of weeks.

"None of them play the sale role as Jamison, but they might be able to rotate around and find a different role."

Teague said Fisher and Adam Hartlett kicked three goals apiece in the Bullants' Saturday hit-out, while Browne was "reliable" for the second week running.

Teague added that versatile midfielder Jordan Bannister played his "best game this year" following an unlucky run with injuries in 2008.

"He played at centre-half back and played pretty well. He was very strong and took some overhead contested marks," he said.

"He's missed a lot of footy and missed a lot of the games over the pre-season. He's getting better with each game. He started the game really well and he's starting to feel like he's getting back to 100 per cent fitness."

He said the potentially season-ending injury sustained by Andrew Walker was an innocuous incident that was simply unlucky.

"That was the very first contest of the day and it was very disappointing for him," he said.

"It wasn't even hard contact – he just reached for the ball, got bumped, and it was the right angle at the right time.

"He's done a lot of work to get back in and he'd played really good team football the week before, and he'll be missed."

The Bullants will play their first game of the VFL season this Sunday at Visy Park against the Bendigo Bombers.

 

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

It's good to have depth like the ocean.

 

[Lance]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Irish for Jamo
Stevens for Garlett
AJ to play on Lovett or maybe Davey, if so Russell to cover Lovett.
No way Jacobs will be dropped and Ratts will stick to minimal changes until somebody plays an obvious shocker.

I agree, but they have to make a change for Grigg to come in as well. I would probably think Wiggo might go for Grigg?

 

[Cruiser23]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Alright had a chance to watch the replay twice today and we did drop of the boil a fair bit in the second half. Jamison was/is a big loss, we really struggled to contain Bradshaw and Waite's influence was not as great as it was early in the game. These are the changes i'd be looking at for the game against the Bombers:

OUT: Jamison
IN: O'hAlpin

Pretty straight forward if you ask me. Will be able to release Waite a little more and hopefully will mean having in less 1-on-1 situation and more 3rd man up situations. We need his attacking flare, really has been influential this year. I'd probably give Setanta the nod and i think the coach staff will too. Was earmarked for important roles early in the year before that incident with Cloke, i think they'll give him a shot.

OUT: Scotland
IN: Stevens

This could shock you but i think it could be a real possibility. Stevens apparently will come straight back in and for it needs to be a like-for-like. Seemed Heath was playing across half back a fair bit last week and looked really lost. He really struggled with the tempo of the game and i'm thinking a game or 2 in the two's will give him a bit more confidence. He had a very interrupted pre-season and was somewhat rushed back against the Tigers, get his fitness base up and he'll be back into the side very soon. Important part of the puzzle for us but just seems a little underdone for mine.

OUT Johnson
IN: Grigg

Johnson has been pretty good in the first two games, really does use the ball well but still lacks defensively. Grigg is fairly effective both ways and i think there in no doubt Shaun gives us a boost. Again, similar type positions though Johnson probably plays a little more deep, we just need to keep the balance right and i think this change adds a better player with changing that.

 

[Alpha1]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Maybe Johnson is not a defensive player? But he does have good skill in delivering the ball.

 

[Silvagnis]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

McPhee out for one

I was hoping McPhee would get off that soft charge , but I'll take it.

 

[true blue boy]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

in: grigg,stevens,yarran
out: jamo, gartlett, joseph

 

[The Grover]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Why would having a forward out suspended force us to play another forward in the backline???
If anything, Ryder would be playing more of the game in the forward line

Agree with that, Daniher & Pears played well in defence last week ,so Ryder likely to play forward.

 

[BlueYoss]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

OUT: Jamison
IN: O'hAlpin/Austin

Austin has just come back from a groin strain and is only having his first hit-out with the Ants this week so will not come into consideration for senior a call-up.

 

[Cruiser23]

Re: Round 3:- Changes against Essendon?

Austin has just come back from a groin strain and is only having his first hit-out with the Ants this week so will not come into consideration for senior a call-up.

Oh, ok, well Setanta it is then.