Autopsy Round 1, 2023: Positives and Negatives vs North Melbourne
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Just caught the replay - not gonna lie, very disappointed that a shit heap of a team like the Roos can get 34 points up and Malarkey looking like a superstar.
Some positive signs but the team just looks absolutely lost as soon as the opposition sets up behind the ball - it needs to be addressed, surely shorter kicks on the 45, run and carry to half forward, do a rain dance - just try something for goodness sake.
Unfortunately if we can't beat that team there's not going to be many wins for the year, will just have to find positives elsewhere.
Ryan and Gov were great, Gaff decent and a lot to like about Ginbey.
Some positive signs but the team just looks absolutely lost as soon as the opposition sets up behind the ball - it needs to be addressed, surely shorter kicks on the 45, run and carry to half forward, do a rain dance - just try something for goodness sake.
Unfortunately if we can't beat that team there's not going to be many wins for the year, will just have to find positives elsewhere.
Ryan and Gov were great, Gaff decent and a lot to like about Ginbey.
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A bit late to the party but there were some good signs and some ugly signs in that game.
All in all, it'll be a better season to watch than last season.
- Ginbey and Hunt are massive additions.
- Oscar looked pretty solid for 18 months out of the game.
- Sheed/Kelly/Shuey combined nicely a few times.
- Not sure what XON's role was. Didn't spud it up but didn't really take his opportunity either.
- Long is going to be a very good player when he figures things out.
- Chesser was a little invisible though.
- Gov almost looked like he couldn't see the ball today. Very strange from him.
- Defense overall was largely below average. We're going to get blown out of the water if we serve that up and lose in the middle.
- Hurn struggled early but did OK
- Gaff offers nothing. Hough HAS to play when fit.
All in all, it'll be a better season to watch than last season.
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Positives, cause the people who lapped up all offseason how shit we are are now incensed that we lost a game of footy.
+ Intention to go aggressive was evident, bursts of handball and carry, Darling consistently aggressive kicking inboard whenever he took a mark further up the ground. Reverted too safe too often, but there’s something there if they actually commit to it.
+ Ginbey a bit of a beast, lots to like. Long very clean in the small bursts he showed.
+/- Hurn and Shuey were essentially our best. I love it, Shuey needs them and I hope Hurn plays until he’s 60, but huge performances like that will always feel a little uneasy from now on. If they’re playing, they might as well carve up.
+ Shuey off the half back. A positive no matter what.
+ Ryan was a big spark, I thought Petch put himself about for absolutely no reward off the bench.
+ Allen had some comical moments of rust, and still stamped himself on several contests. Darling good. A nice enough start to their partnership.
+ Jamaine Jones. A Darling/Allen/Ryan/Jones forward line is more than capable of creating goals if we get it down there.
Predicted we’d win inside a goal, reckon we got screwed by the four North fans that won the raffle to umpire the game, don’t let teams get six goal leads is a pretty easy lesson to learn, but ah well. Let’s see how we build on what is the first of a great many steps we’ll have to take.
+ Intention to go aggressive was evident, bursts of handball and carry, Darling consistently aggressive kicking inboard whenever he took a mark further up the ground. Reverted too safe too often, but there’s something there if they actually commit to it.
+ Ginbey a bit of a beast, lots to like. Long very clean in the small bursts he showed.
+/- Hurn and Shuey were essentially our best. I love it, Shuey needs them and I hope Hurn plays until he’s 60, but huge performances like that will always feel a little uneasy from now on. If they’re playing, they might as well carve up.
+ Shuey off the half back. A positive no matter what.
+ Ryan was a big spark, I thought Petch put himself about for absolutely no reward off the bench.
+ Allen had some comical moments of rust, and still stamped himself on several contests. Darling good. A nice enough start to their partnership.
+ Jamaine Jones. A Darling/Allen/Ryan/Jones forward line is more than capable of creating goals if we get it down there.
Predicted we’d win inside a goal, reckon we got screwed by the four North fans that won the raffle to umpire the game, don’t let teams get six goal leads is a pretty easy lesson to learn, but ah well. Let’s see how we build on what is the first of a great many steps we’ll have to take.
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They pumped up Schofield's tyres here with his experience with Port's transition play and we're still shit. Other teams can slice and dice and can think things through. We just shit the bed.
Other teams seem to be able to learn gameplans quicker too. Unsure if that's the age of our players (teaching an old dog new tricks), a general unwillingness to commit to the new plan (coaches lost the players), or no intent from the coaches to really implement a new one. I can see glimpses, then we just fall back on the dated, slow, kick mark stuff with no real repercussions?
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Would love some insight from the umpire who paid that kicking in danger against Petch.
What a bloody moron.
What a bloody moron.
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Discussion at AFL house earlier this week:
"What colour are the Eagles and North Melbourne again? Trying to decide what colour the umpires are going to wear."
"Well the Eagles wear bule and gold, and North wear blue and white."
"Hmmm, okay. Let's get the umpires in blue then."
****en dickheads.
"What colour are the Eagles and North Melbourne again? Trying to decide what colour the umpires are going to wear."
"Well the Eagles wear bule and gold, and North wear blue and white."
"Hmmm, okay. Let's get the umpires in blue then."
****en dickheads.
Simmos presser.
When is that going up, all I can see and here is a replay of one the 23 pressers.from last year.
Dejection
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When is that going up, all I can see and here is a replay of one the 23 pressers.from last year.
Dejection
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This is going to be a long 5yrs
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Did we see a replay of govs head clash?
Dunstall kept saying it was accidental, but it was a long way off the ball.
think we might have conceded a goal or two while he was off the ground, and we don’t know what happened.
Dunstall kept saying it was accidental, but it was a long way off the ball.
think we might have conceded a goal or two while he was off the ground, and we don’t know what happened.
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Not sure about the timing of it all but we’d gone to sleep so badly in the second I don’t think it changes a thing.
For what it’s worth we didn’t get a replay, did get one of the medicos trying to find one, commentary mentioned there was no clean footage.
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Was it the same one that ruled “not 15“ for the mark at the end of the first?
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Post match presser was totally pathetic from the media. I guess it is not Simpson's fault that the journo's are dumb and can't think of anything intelligent to ask him. You can only answer the questions you are asked. The questions were all big open ended softballs. There was the same journo asking 75% of the questions. Not sure who he is. But he is useless. As was the female journo asking the other 25% of the questions.
I don't expect or want them to be unfair to and attack Simpson (or any other coach in the position Simpson is in). But asking coach's more pointed questions than what they did is totally fair and warranted. For example, Simpson spent most of the presser citing our inability to win the ball as being the biggest problem so ask him the following questions -
You say the teams inability to win the ball in a contest is the main problem you have, but that has been the teams biggest problem for several years. What have you done to try and rectify this in the off season, and given that you have not gotten results from the actions you have taken up until now, what do you plan to do about it going forward?
Are the players in your midfield whose job it is to win those contests, but who are losing a majority of them, in danger of being dropped from the 22? Especially if they are already senior players and have little improvement left in them to gain by investing games in them?
I don't expect or want them to be unfair to and attack Simpson (or any other coach in the position Simpson is in). But asking coach's more pointed questions than what they did is totally fair and warranted. For example, Simpson spent most of the presser citing our inability to win the ball as being the biggest problem so ask him the following questions -
You say the teams inability to win the ball in a contest is the main problem you have, but that has been the teams biggest problem for several years. What have you done to try and rectify this in the off season, and given that you have not gotten results from the actions you have taken up until now, what do you plan to do about it going forward?
Are the players in your midfield whose job it is to win those contests, but who are losing a majority of them, in danger of being dropped from the 22? Especially if they are already senior players and have little improvement left in them to gain by investing games in them?
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Positives:
Negatives:
Hoping to see Hewett, Culley and Hough in the side in the near future and Bazzo when ready.
- Debutants. Ginbey and Long both showed plenty. Liked much of what Hunt did, even though he didn't get a lot of it. Chesser was quiet, but I hope he plays again next week. This season is all about the young players.
- Liam Ryan
- Jamaine Jones
- Oscar Allen back again, even though he may have already taken out the worst missed goal of the season
- Gov, Barrass and Hurn holding back the tide, despite each having some moments they'd prefer to forget
- Some intermittent glimpses of a new gameplan, trying to set up some run and faster ball movement (not sure about the Sheed to the ruck tactic though)
- Darling's goal from the boundary
- Second half comeback to nearly steal a game we definitely didn't deserve to win (but should never have got so far behind in the first place)
Negatives:
- Beaten (for the third consecutive time) by one of the weakest sides in the comp, this time with a near full-strength side, showing just how miserable 2023 is likely to be
- Deplorable second quarter
- Umpiring. Yet to watch the replay, but being at the game there were some real head-scratchers.
- Missing some important shots at goal late in the game (Gaff, Darling) that might have helped us pinch a win
- XON and Williams: been in the system long enough to be showing more by now.
- Williams and Jamieson shown up by pinch-hitting ruckmen. How soon can Harry Barnett be played?
- Plenty of disappointing efforts throughout from senior players
- Contested ball
- V-Line's rail replacement bus dumped us at Wyndham Vale where we had to wait 40 minutes for a train to Geelong after the game.
Hoping to see Hewett, Culley and Hough in the side in the near future and Bazzo when ready.
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Good -
3 debuts. Ginbey looks the goods. Long got better as the game went on, didn't look out of place.
6 tests in England coming up, at least something to look forward to this winter.
Bad -
After last year I thought we had bottomed out. Now I'm not so sure. I'm really worried that the next generation who should be coming into their own now, are mostly busts or C graders at best.
Ugly -
Our rucks.
Same old story with not being able to stop momentum and getting totally outplayed for long periods of time.
3 debuts. Ginbey looks the goods. Long got better as the game went on, didn't look out of place.
6 tests in England coming up, at least something to look forward to this winter.
Bad -
After last year I thought we had bottomed out. Now I'm not so sure. I'm really worried that the next generation who should be coming into their own now, are mostly busts or C graders at best.
Ugly -
Our rucks.
Same old story with not being able to stop momentum and getting totally outplayed for long periods of time.
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Good game today - Ginbey looks a real talent to be excited about!
Good game today - Ginbey looks a real talent to be excited about!
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I think it's going to take a good half season to work out what our best 22 is. Guys like Culley, Hewitt, Hough, Bazzo and Burgiel all to come in at some point. Still Ledwards lurking around. Obviously Yeo and Nic if they're fit.
Have high hopes for Ledwards. Thought he did well in his first year. Hope injuries are behind him
Negative - recorded and watched again.
From that:
OA stays fit and he will be Kennedy like in a season or 2.
Williams is fumble central because he is allergic to straight lining the ball.
Cripps, you can add that 3:40 squib in the last to your growing list of squib highlight.
We have Mr Magoo as our coach.
We are a bottom 4 side in which McGovern plays like a millionaire.
We have somehow managed to put a slow/small bodied squad together - until the last, Nth monstered us physically.
Shuey immense and Sheeds last 1/2 shows he still adds value.
Kelly fwd?
Witho, O’Neil, Jamo not great, probably add Petch too that.
JJ, big tick.
Thank god we have Ginbey (
to Longy).
Looking fwd to having Hough and Bazzo back.
From that:
OA stays fit and he will be Kennedy like in a season or 2.
Williams is fumble central because he is allergic to straight lining the ball.
Cripps, you can add that 3:40 squib in the last to your growing list of squib highlight.
We have Mr Magoo as our coach.
We are a bottom 4 side in which McGovern plays like a millionaire.
We have somehow managed to put a slow/small bodied squad together - until the last, Nth monstered us physically.
Shuey immense and Sheeds last 1/2 shows he still adds value.
Kelly fwd?
Witho, O’Neil, Jamo not great, probably add Petch too that.
JJ, big tick.
Thank god we have Ginbey (
to Longy).Looking fwd to having Hough and Bazzo back.
Only 2 frees against Shuey but I feel like he got pinged at least 4 times for a lingering tackle, most of them dubious calls. Someone else must have taken the L for a couple of those.
I didn't agree with him rolling round again with the C but I love that he chucked the team on his back and applied some physical intent to show the kids what it's all about.
Will go down as one of my favourite players regardless of how I think this year should have played out.
I didn't agree with him rolling round again with the C but I love that he chucked the team on his back and applied some physical intent to show the kids what it's all about.
Will go down as one of my favourite players regardless of how I think this year should have played out.
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