List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[DanWCE]

We've seen your hands on the podcast mate, the closest you've come to working under a bonnet is opening the fuel cap.

Im getting real 'that's the joke' vibes but that's never stopped people around here before, so why has no-one else pointed out to you that the fuel cap isn't located under the bonnet?!

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Has Barrat grown at all this year. He’s listed as 193cm?

Hahaha, that's first thing I checked on him too. I really liked him through the champs, until Armstrong got hold of him against Vic Metro.

 

[kerrazy]

I honestly don't get the reference. I know what it's from but I couldn't tell if that means you are happy or not (Google didn't assist me either).

 

[sharps24]

I know people are desperate for one of these top 3 mids but my god I'd die for Adelaide to swap picks with North so they could get Draper and then we take Trainor at 3. North would have to take another mid or trade out of the top 10, so we then offer them Barrass pick and future first for pick 4 and they'd be compelled to take it but pride would prevent them from doing so.

I want a Gov replacement who actually plays as 3rd tall quarterback type and as West Coast tragic I just can't bear to see a top 10 ranked defender ever picked by another club. I'm fine with using the Barrass pick as the midfield options, maybe Bo Allen around there or someone who like Hewitt who isn't seen so much as a ready made. Don't really think we are have set this list up for the sort of game time a top 3 midfield pick is going to want straight off the bat, whereas Trainor can probably play from round one next year and represents something we are truly missing and an early teens mid can do a bit of proper in position WAFL work while we enjoy the twilight of Yeo-Kelly.

 

[Bender_]

Im getting real 'that's the joke' vibes but that's never stopped people around here before, so why has no-one else pointed out to you that the fuel cap isn't located under the bonnet?!

They did, right after I failed that unit in the Tafe mechanics course.

 

[DanWCE]

They did, right after I failed that unit in the Tafe mechanics course.

Right after you topped up the windscreen washing reservoir with unleaded?

 

[eaglevision]

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That is a still from a lot of WCE posters on draft night with your haul eaglespremiers

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

This is my pre combine top 30 standings.
Alot different to others you'll see but that just shows how even the draft is.
1. Finn O'Sullivan 181cm mid
2. Levi Ashcroft 179cm Mid
3. Jagga Smith 181cm Mid
4. Murphy Reid 181cm Mid
5. Luke Trainor 194cm Def
6. Leonardo Lombard 178cm Mid
7. Sid Draper 180cm mid
8. Tobie Travaglia 187cm Util
9. Josh Smillie 194cm Mid
10. Sam Lalor 187cm Mid/fwd
11. Harvey Langford 190cm Fwd/Mid
12. Xavier Lindsay 183cm Mid
13. Christian Moraes 182cm Mid
14. Bo Allan 188cm Def/Mid
15. Isaac Kako 175cm Fwd
16. Alex Dodson 203cm Ruck
17. Joe Berry 180cm Fwd
18. Taj Hotton 182cm Mid
19. Jobe Shanahan 194cm Fwd
20. Harry Armstrong 195cm fwd
21. Matt Whitlock 199cm Util
22. Cooper Hynes 190cm Mid/Fwd
23. Ben Camporeale 184cm Mid
24. Jack Whitlock 200cm Fwd
25. Harry O'Farrell 196cm Def
26. Luke Urquhart 183m Fwd
27. Samual Marshall 185cm Mid
28. Noah Mraz 197cm Def
29. Tyler Welsh 191cm Fwd
30. Jonty Faull 194cm Fwd

Any reason you have FOS number 1? I know he's had his injuries but has put together a pretty mediocre year.

 

[Bennellongtime]

I think he will be.

I suspect Adelaide will trade with North to get Draper or North take Draper. Wouldn't be shocked if they are looking at Armstrong if they trade back.

I think he'll go number 1 to Richmond.

 

[Bennellongtime]

Any reason you have FOS number 1? I know he's had his injuries but has pit together a pretty mediocre year.

From what I've read he's got the highest potential and does some really classy things you can't teach.

 

[Godfather32]

Right after you topped up the windscreen washing reservoir with unleaded?

One of the apprentices at work recently topped up the boss's car's windscreen washer fluid with water.
Or so he thought....what he'd actually topped up was the engine oil with water.
Luckily he realised before the boss started his car and dobbed himself in.

 

[DanWCE]

One of the apprentices at work recently topped up the boss's car's windscreen washer fluid with water.
Or so he thought....what he'd actually topped up was the engine oil with water.
Luckily he realised before the boss started his car and dobbed himself in.

Credit to him for admitting the mistake! Not sure how you could confuse the two but it sounds like he avoided a pretty big drama by raising the flag

 

[THE A5]

I think I speak for everyone when I say:

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Only taller that Joe due to his gigantic head.

Honestly Harry has the tools to be a good defender at this level but still has a ton to prove. If he does a Waterman that puts us in great stead going forward. Thats would creat a somewhat decent spine

 

[eaglespremiers]

Hahaha, that's first thing I checked on him too. I really liked him through the champs, until Armstrong got hold of him against Vic Metro.

So a couple of things on that point:
1. Before this game I'd been chatting to James at a Pioneers game and he confirmed that he'd never played the role of defender prior to midway through this season (i.e. after the first round of the Champs). He was then thrown back for a couple of games for the Pioneers before subsequent Country matches. Therefore, I'm not surprised he's still learning the caper;
2. of the five goals Armstrong kicked he did kick 4 on Barrat (his final goal was on Matt Whitlock), however, of those four goals one was based on a very soft free kick where he simply lost position in the pack and the umpire (IMO) misjudged the contest. Two of the remaining goals Armstrong marked in space due to Barrat's Country teammates turning over the ball just outside their back 50, one of which, after Barrat took a good intercept mark deep in the back 50m (16 minutes into the 2nd quarter) and he kicked to Lindsay in space only for Lindsay to turn the ball over and the Metro boys chip inside to Armstrong. When play is immediately turned over around the 50m arc it is unsurprising that a new defender might be caught out of position.
So whilst this game was not great for Barrat I don't think it is the best indicator of what he can produce down back once settled there. And as indicated before I would think that he is close to the best contested mark at Talent League level (he is 2nd for total marks with 70 marks over 10 matches, one behind McInerney from the Knights who has played 13 games).

 

[eaglevision]

I honestly don't get the reference. I know what it's from but I couldn't tell if that means you are happy or not (Google didn't assist me either). Knowing you I know you are big on Lindsay so I presume that you would be happy with a draft of:
3. O'Sullivan
12. Travaglia
23. Lindsay
27. Mraz
59. Barrat

Lindsay at that pick might be a stretch, however, it wouldn't surprise me if certain teams prioritised talls (i.e. Armstrong, Shanahan, Whitlock x 2, Tauru, Dodson and Faull) and that may push certain midfield options towards our pick (i.e. Lindsay, Moraes or Hynes). So there's a small possibility of this outcome.

I’d be delighted. Agreed Lindsay won’t get to 23. Most of the talls you mentioned will go late 1R/very early 2R IMO so there’s a chance a player like Gross might get to 23 but I think Lindsay is too classy to be left after those talls. Lindsay’s my second choice if Tobie is gone with Barrass 1R or we split pick 3. I’d be very keen to make a play for Freo or GCS pick with Liam Ryan and/or future pick to get another selection there to get both TT and Lindsay. They’d give us a great attacking and penetrating option down the HBF/wing. Would also be very happy with Clancy Dennis at 59 but I know you’re big on Barrat and with good reason.

 

[THE A5]

Credit to him for admitting the mistake! Not sure how you could confuse the two but it sounds like he avoided a pretty big drama by raising the flag

Better than a tradie I had over that skulled half a bottle of terps before he realised it wasn’t water

 

[Godfather32]

Credit to him for admitting the mistake! Not sure how you could confuse the two but it sounds like he avoided a pretty big drama by raising the flag

Yeah, nfi how you would make the mistake unless you were completely unfamiliar with cars (which he wasn't), but he saved his job by admitting to it I reckon.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I’d be delighted. Agreed Lindsay won’t get to 23. Most of the talls you mentioned will go late 1R/very early 2R IMO so there’s a chance a player like Gross might get to 23 but I think Lindsay is too classy to be left after those talls. Lindsay’s my second choice if Tobie is gone with Barrass 1R or we split pick 3. I’d be very keen to make a play for Freo or GCS pick with Liam Ryan and/or future pick to get another selection there to get both TT and Lindsay. They’d give us a great attacking and penetrating option down the HBF/wing. Would also be very happy with Clancy Dennis at 59 but I know you’re big on Barrat and with good reason.

Assuming that we do get a mid at 3 and Tobie at 12, what are your thoughts on either:
1. keeping 23 and 27 (following this hypothetical trade with Hawthorn); or
2. trading them for a mid teens pick.
If (2) what player would be worth doing so for?
That is would you prefer Lindsay or Moraes and Mraz?

 

[Ishmael_]

They did, right after I failed that unit in the Tafe mechanics course.

Maybe it wasn't the joke?

 

[KERRPOW]

Harry edwards resigned till the end of 2027

 

[Bender_]

Maybe it wasn't the joke?

The "Putting Fuel into the Car" unit was the toughest 3 months of my life.

 

[Monocle]

Floored to find out Ruscoe is as tall as 193cm.

Wouldn’t be particularly keen on either playing meaningful KPD minutes at AFL level. Surely better mature aged depth options out there.

Clurey but 198cm would be perfect as a fourth or fifth in line, everyone else is injured option. But 193cm concerns me.

Give me Trey Ruscoe over Josh Rotham as a third tall, any day.

That one move instantly makes our list better.

As for Clurey when I first heard of our interest in him I was disappointed and though WTF ........ and I still think that way.

James Peatling , oh yes please an emerging player that we should dangle some serious coin in front of, I would be stoked if we landed him.

 

[mattyc75]

Does he? Hadn't noticed, bloke needs to get better at telling people what he knows

I guess it's the opposite end from old Bondy. Apparently knows a lot but won't give any information

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[eaglevision]

Assuming that we do get a mid at 3 and Tobie at 12, what are your thoughts on either:
1. keeping 23 and 27 (following this hypothetical trade with Hawthorn); or
2. trading them for a mid teens pick.
If (2) what player would be worth doing so for?

Other than Tobie, Lindsay is the only player I’d take in the mid teens over pick 23 (Hynes/Oliver) and 27 (O’Farrell/Mraz/Gerreyn) that could realistically be available. I just think both can turn into magnificent players and leaders at the club.

I wouldn’t take Allan, Hotton, Moraes, Gross or any of the talls.

Joe Berry comes very, very close but I think we need to address other areas first. There’s huge value in 20s picks this year and I’d rather two picks there than a single pick in the teens in most circumstances. I’d want to be sure we could take a KPD like Dennis later in the draft too if we traded the 20s picks up.

 

[Godfather32]

I guess it's the opposite end from old Bondy. Apparently knows a lot but won't give any information

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Apparently