He's a big boy, physically hasn't changed a bit..
All the ex Saints train hard, Burkey's boss played at the Saints but there's no need to divulge his name..
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All the ex Saints train hard, Burkey's boss played at the Saints but there's no need to divulge his name..
Mate he's not worth all that
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Excuse me god its me again. Ive had a good hard think about it for 2 minutes.
How about i just cut out the swearing??? Do we still have a deal??
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Every single indication points to a ruckman being traded; paying big time for Hickey (with massive wraps on him within and outside of the club), highly rating Pierce internally, and now picking up Holmes. So who could be traded?
The former is a genuine possibility, especially since GWS have nabbed Mumford, whilst the latter seems possible, but I think the (superficial) breakdown of our ruck stocks suggests that leadership alone won't cut it; particularly with the 'ruthless' Pelchen at the helm. I would like to think that there will be some form of offloading of unused value in the ruck department, and everything I can see suggests that, if anyone is to be traded, it will be Big Mac.
As for where he could be headed, and for what; who knows? Perhaps, if these Patton rumours are true, something involving Collingwood that would send Mac there, Shaw to GWS, and Patton to us (with pick exchanges/other player movement occurring as well).
- Hickey? Isn't going anywhere since we only just got him.
- Pierce? As above, plus would have no value whatsoever.
- Holmes? Of course not; as above, and can't be traded, anyway.
- Stanley? Perhaps, but is of a different mould and would have little value (hasn't shown much other than injuries!)
- McEvoy?......
The former is a genuine possibility, especially since GWS have nabbed Mumford, whilst the latter seems possible, but I think the (superficial) breakdown of our ruck stocks suggests that leadership alone won't cut it; particularly with the 'ruthless' Pelchen at the helm. I would like to think that there will be some form of offloading of unused value in the ruck department, and everything I can see suggests that, if anyone is to be traded, it will be Big Mac.
As for where he could be headed, and for what; who knows? Perhaps, if these Patton rumours are true, something involving Collingwood that would send Mac there, Shaw to GWS, and Patton to us (with pick exchanges/other player movement occurring as well).
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Melbourne are in every position to negotiate. They have a sought after asset in pick 2. They can float it under the noses of every other club and take the best deal (wouldn't be hard to trump Armo + 22) or they can keep it and take the best mid in the draft.
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And take Freeman with #10....
So Holmes, Bruce, Patton and Freeman before we start reaching in the draft.
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He wasat the saints today but was at whitten oval last week....
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Thanks for that. Any take on how eager GWS are to trade him?
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I'm a bit on the fence about whether we're considering to trade Mac. On one hand SW was screaming out for ruck depth in 2012 when we had Blake rucking half the season. On the other hand Pierce will be another 18 months developed and we've acquired Hickey and Holmes in that time. I'm sure we'd be open to enquiries and there's no use Mac dwelling in the ressies if he's overtaken by Hickey, as I expect. I see longterm Hickey and Stanley a better combination than a combination involving Ben.
Even with GWS getting Mummy there's still some suiters. If Hawthorn miss out on Longer there's an option. Freo and WC come to mind with Sandi and Cox not getting any younger. Mac could pair up with Zac Clarke or Nic Nat. Sydney losing Mummy may be interested....Mac for Parker straight swap?
Even with GWS getting Mummy there's still some suiters. If Hawthorn miss out on Longer there's an option. Freo and WC come to mind with Sandi and Cox not getting any younger. Mac could pair up with Zac Clarke or Nic Nat. Sydney losing Mummy may be interested....Mac for Parker straight swap?
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From what I have heard they will trade him and pick 4 will get the job done....think Patton will decide on who he wants to go to then gws will do the deal with that club. The ox said tonight his mail is Patton is close to agreeing on coming to the dogs but ox also said over the weekend buddy was 100% signing with gws so who knows
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If we get rid of Armo, Del and Joey who will Bruce and Delaney kick it to and how will White, Lee and Patton get it.
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In all the Patton-phoria, I had a think about how we'd manage to fit Riewoldt, Hickey, Stanley (again, IMO he's a ruck/fwd) and Lee - with Sipposs, Markworth, Maister and White all in calculations in differing roles - into the team... And what I came up with was:
RK: Hickey - ****** - ******
HF: Curren - Riewoldt - Markworth
FF: Lee - Patton - ******
Int: Stanley - **** - **** - ****
Patton, Lee, Hickey and Stanley all in a round robin swap.
1. When Hickey is gassed, Stanley comes on to ruck, with whichever forward still there.
2. When said forward is gassed, Stanley roams forward and Hickey comes back into the ruck.
3. Rinse, lather and repeat.
RK: Hickey - ****** - ******
HF: Curren - Riewoldt - Markworth
FF: Lee - Patton - ******
Int: Stanley - **** - **** - ****
Patton, Lee, Hickey and Stanley all in a round robin swap.
1. When Hickey is gassed, Stanley comes on to ruck, with whichever forward still there.
2. When said forward is gassed, Stanley roams forward and Hickey comes back into the ruck.
3. Rinse, lather and repeat.
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Will probably go to the Dogs though, he'd get more opportunity and they'd be willing to give up more if push came to shove.
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Yeah, they're further along in their rebuild as well. Curse their good finish to the year!!Saints supporter
Will probably go to the Dogs though, he'd get more opportunity and they'd be willing to give up more if push came to shove.
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Just get his mum, sister etc to talk him into picking the Saints.
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The fact we've traded with GWS over their first two years in the competition and look likely to again with Bruce and potentially Fisher gives me hope we can negotiate a deal more effectively than the Dogs. Just need to satisfy Patton. I'm very much against losing pick 3 tho. Somehow we would need pick 9 coming back our way.
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Thought he barracked for the pies.....but I could be getting him mixed up with BoydJust get his mum, sister etc to talk him into picking the Saints.
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