Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 33!, 1 BIG FISH ALERT last October 4th) (7 confirmed! 11 Busted!)

[adelaidecrows]

Grundy in the tri-colors next year.

I dont think this is a bad idea. We literally have no ruck back up. We have issues with ROB at times and who knows competition in his spot can only be a good thing. Even if he loses out.

 

[Crow till I die]

Gets higher up the ground and creates more than McAdam.
High pressure forward too.

IF we are targeting him - then it would be to replace the time Pedlar and Rankine are spending up forward to allow them more midfield time maybe..could be good then!!!

 

[Bearded Clam]

I’d love us to target Milera-Wanganeen from saints, he will be an amazing get. Would out first this year get it done??


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Re-signed a few months back..

Is also very good mates with some of the powa youngsters.. Mead, Burgoyne..

Little chance in it happening you’d think..

 

[Miss Vanessa]

Would be interesting to compare to thr top ranked key forwards & midfielders.

And the top 15 midfielders in the comp according to the AFL player ranking system, and the draft picks used to get them.

C. Petracca - Pick 2

M. Bontempelli - Pick 4

L. Neale - Pick 6 & 19 (originally Pick 58)

Z. Merrett - Pick 26

Z. Butters - Pick 12

C. Oliver - Pick 4

N. Daicos - Pick 4

J. Sinclair - Rookie

T. Liberatore - Pick 40 (old f/S)

N. Anderson - Pick 2

P. Cripps - Pick 13

J. Newcombe - Mid-season Draft

C. Rozee - Pick 5

C. Serong - Pick 8

S. Bolton - Pick 29

So 10 of the top 15 mids required first round draft picks to get them, with 6 of those requiring a top 5 pick…

 

[Crow till I die]

And the top 15 midfielders in the comp according to the AFL player ranking system, and the draft picks used to get them.

C. Petracca - Pick 2

M. Bontempelli - Pick 4

L. Neale - Pick 6 & 19 (originally Pick 58)

Z. Merrett - Pick 26

Z. Butters - Pick 12

C. Oliver - Pick 4

N. Daicos - Pick 4

J. Sinclair - Rookie

T. Liberatore - Pick 40 (old f/S)

N. Anderson - Pick 2

P. Cripps - Pick 13

J. Newcombe - Mid-season Draft

C. Rozee - Pick 5

C. Serong - Pick 8

S. Bolton - Pick 29

So 10 of the top 15 mids required first round draft picks to get them, with 6 of those requiring a top 5 pick…

interesting Dawson was not there as he will be right up there in the brownlow voting I would think

 

[GROTTO]

And the top 15 midfielders in the comp according to the AFL player ranking system, and the draft picks used to get them.

C. Petracca - Pick 2

M. Bontempelli - Pick 4

L. Neale - Pick 6 & 19 (originally Pick 58)

Z. Merrett - Pick 26

Z. Butters - Pick 12

C. Oliver - Pick 4

N. Daicos - Pick 4

J. Sinclair - Rookie

T. Liberatore - Pick 40 (old f/S)

N. Anderson - Pick 2

P. Cripps - Pick 13

J. Newcombe - Mid-season Draft

C. Rozee - Pick 5

C. Serong - Pick 8

S. Bolton - Pick 29

So 10 of the top 15 mids required first round draft picks to get them, with 6 of those requiring a top 5 pick…

Whats probably the saddest part of this list, we were in a draft position and or had draft capital to have got at least one of these.

 

[Crow till I die]

Whats probably the saddest part of this list, we were in a draft position and or had draft capital to have got at least one of these.

Noah Anderson should have been ours but for the f***ing AFL

 

[bonehilda]

interesting Dawson was not there as he will be right up there in the brownlow voting I would think

I think this is their source, and if it is he’s actually the 7th highest ranked player across all positions, just still registered as a defender. No idea what metrics they use but everyday I thank Jesus Mary and Joseph that Jordy is ours. Tex also appropriately ranked 13th on this list

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And the top 15 midfielders in the comp according to the AFL player ranking system, and the draft picks used to get them.

C. Petracca - Pick 2

M. Bontempelli - Pick 4

L. Neale - Pick 6 & 19 (originally Pick 58)

Z. Merrett - Pick 26

Z. Butters - Pick 12

C. Oliver - Pick 4

N. Daicos - Pick 4

J. Sinclair - Rookie

T. Liberatore - Pick 40 (old f/S)

N. Anderson - Pick 2

P. Cripps - Pick 13

J. Newcombe - Mid-season Draft

C. Rozee - Pick 5

C. Serong - Pick 8

S. Bolton - Pick 29

So 10 of the top 15 mids required first round draft picks to get them, with 6 of those requiring a top 5 pick…

Thanks - I suspected this... so we need to look to use our top Draft picks where possible to improve our midfield.

 

[MrBarry]

For those interested, here’s a list of the top 15 Key Defenders according to the AFL Player Ratings, and also what their current clubs got them for:

D. Moore - Pick 9

H. Andrews - Pick 61

S. Taylor - Pick 28

J. Weitering - Pick 1

S. May - traded for Pick 6

C. Wilkie - Rookie Draft

J. Lever - traded for two late 1sts

A. Aliir - traded for 2nd round pick

N. Balta - Pick 25

T. Barass - Pick 43

B. Cox - Pick 41

C. Ballard - Pick 42

B. Hardwick - Pick 44

J. Buckley - Rookie Draft

J. McGovern - Rookie Draft

So 4 of the top 7 cost their clubs first round picks, but the rest cost the clubs next to nothing really…

Yes this lines up with my thinking that spending top picks on KPD's is just not needed, they can be obtained from elsewhere due to the skillset. A lot of them are failed forwards.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Davis
Talia
Lever

All pretty good

Melbourne premiership side - traded May in for a pick 5 and Lever in for two first rounders.

McAsey was a poor pick. So was Galluci, Jones for a pick 9 mid. Sometimes they get it wrong


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Murray
Keane
Butts

All look pretty good too..

Granted they arent as good as Davis, Lever or talia though!..

But not that far off.. especially Murray.. he was looking close to elite before his knee this year.. was killing it.

But my point is you can grab half decent KPD’s with junk shit picks in the rookie draft!.. and supplimentary period.

But.. What you wont find with those junk rookie draft picks is an elite midfielder like a cripps, bont, Oliver etc… unless you are extremely lucky.. like one in a million lucky!

 

[MRB37]

The AFL banned Sydney from trading after they recruited Buddy

That was only because it specifically went against the AFL's wishes of getting Buddy to GWS. Anything else they'll still favour Sydney over us.

 

[Golumless]

What does he offer McAdam is not currently as a forward.. I suppose less games injured?

Nothing. You could argue that Hayward might be midfielder in the right circumstances, but putting up the cash to get him over to try that is more desperate than smart.

As a forward? nothing. You don't pay for a high-pressure guy, nor someone who is going to sit in the 6-8th slots of a forward line.

 

[Crow till I die]

With the way the free agency talent pool is dwindling each day with players re signing with their clubs..trade radio could be shortened to a once per week 5 minute slot just before the 5.00pm friday news

 

[GROTTO]

That was only because it specifically went against the AFL's wishes of getting Buddy to GWS. Anything else they'll still favour Sydney over us.

So much so at the time with the shock of the announcement, VFL360 that normally shuts up shop all summer, did a special episode about this trade.

 

[dogs105]

Whats probably the saddest part of this list, we were in a draft position and or had draft capital to have got at least one of these.

Can we discuss Trigg and the Tippett fiasco which cost us a chance at Cripps again now?

 

[George Kramer]

With the way the free agency talent pool is dwindling each day with players re signing with their clubs..trade radio could be shortened to a once per week 5 minute slot just before the 5.00pm friday news

Paul Conners said it’s going to be one of the quietest trade periods

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Anything in the rumour that we sign Crouch on a decent contract then trade him and pay his salary?

M.Rucci said Port were looking at something similar for one of their players last week.

This clearly only works when getting a good player back, and serves to reduce the pick required (take on salary instead of a high pick).

Nah ....pretty sure you can't trade a player in year 1 of a new Contract

 

[Crow_68]

Paul Conners said it’s going to be one of the quietest trade periods

Hopefully the catalyst to reduce it to 2-3 days.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

A

Thanks - I suspected this... so we need to look to use our top Draft picks where possible to improve our midfield.

And the top 15 key forwards according to the AFL Player Ratings and their draft cost:

C. Curnow - Pick 12

T. Walker - Pick 75 (NSW Scholarship Pick)

J. Cameron - Picks 13,15,20

T. Hawkins - Pick 41 (old F/S)

J. Daniher - Pick 10 (FA netted Essendon Pick 7)

J. Finlayson - Third Round Pick

A. Naughton - Pick 9

N. Larkey - Pick 73

C. Dixon - Pick 10

D. Fogarty - Pick 12

H. McKay - Pick 10

R. Lobb - Two 2nd round Picks

P. Wright - Pick 8 (Essendon paid 4th round pick)

T. Marshall - Pick 16

M. Lewis - Pick 76

And it should be noted that the next three players are Franklin, Riewoldt and Lynch - all of whom were top end first round draft picks. It seems that top Key Forwards, much like midfielders, require top end draft picks to acquire…

So I think the moral of the story is use top end draft picks on midfielders and key forwards. Using such picks on KPDs is almost certainly a waste…

 

[FR0GGY]

A

And the top 15 key forwards according to the AFL Player Ratings and their draft cost:

C. Curnow - Pick 12

T. Walker - Pick 75 (NSW Scholarship Pick)

J. Cameron - Picks 13,15,20

T. Hawkins - Pick 41 (old F/S)

J. Daniher - Pick 10 (FA netted Essendon Pick 7)

J. Finlayson - Third Round Pick

A. Naughton - Pick 9

N. Larkey - Pick 73

C. Dixon - Pick 10

D. Fogarty - Pick 12

H. McKay - Pick 10

R. Lobb - Two 2nd round Picks

P. Wright - Pick 8 (Essendon paid 4th round pick)

T. Marshall - Pick 16

M. Lewis - Pick 76

And it should be noted that the next three players are Franklin, Riewoldt and Lynch - all of whom were top end first round draft picks. It seems that top Key Forwards, much like midfielders, require top end draft picks to acquire…

So I think the moral of the story is use top end draft picks on midfielders and key forwards. Using such picks on KPDs is almost certainly a waste…

Rucks next

 

[Miss Vanessa]

Rucks next

And the rucks:

M. Gawn - Pick 34

T. English - Pick 19

R. Marshall - Rookie Draft

J. Witts - pick 44

L. Jackson - 2 First round picks

S. Darcy - Pick 38

O. McInerney - Rookie Draft

R. O’Brien - Rookie Draft

T. Nankervis - Pick 46

K. Briggs - Pick 34

And the lesson for this is that you should never use draft capital on a ruck… the fact that Freo spent so much to get Jackson is absurd beyond belief!

 

[FR0GGY]

And the rucks:

M. Gawn - Pick 34

T. English - Pick 19

R. Marshall - Rookie Draft

J. Witts - pick 44

L. Jackson - 2 First round picks

S. Darcy - Pick 38

O. McInerney - Rookie Draft

R. O’Brien - Rookie Draft

T. Nankervis - Pick 46

K. Briggs - Pick 34

And the lesson for this is that you should never use draft capital on a ruck… the fact that Freo spent so much to get Jackson is absurd beyond belief!

Doing gods work there!
Thanks!

 

[BunjiMC]

And the rucks:

M. Gawn - Pick 34

T. English - Pick 19

R. Marshall - Rookie Draft

J. Witts - pick 44

L. Jackson - 2 First round picks

S. Darcy - Pick 38

O. McInerney - Rookie Draft

R. O’Brien - Rookie Draft

T. Nankervis - Pick 46

K. Briggs - Pick 34

And the lesson for this is that you should never use draft capital on a ruck… the fact that Freo spent so much to get Jackson is absurd beyond belief!

However, they do see him as ruck, mid, forward, wing apparently.....

 

[Aussie_boy]

I dont think this is a bad idea. We literally have no ruck back up. We have issues with ROB at times and who knows competition in his spot can only be a good thing. Even if he loses out.

Matt Flynn is the one that I think will prove to be the value pickup to whoever he goes. Think he's shown enough that he'd be an upgrade on Strachan if he was to go elsewhere (as mentioned previously) and challenge ROB. Whilst on the topic of GWS ruckmen, I wonder whether Braydon Preuss will be there next year, would not want but I'd love to see another player go into the 4 club club.