Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 33!, 1 BIG FISH ALERT last October 4th) (7 confirmed! 11 Busted!)

[FR0GGY]

I'm loving this Murphy for Hayward trade option

I think you misunderstand, it’s trade Haywood play Murphy.

 

[ABAB]

hayward this year stats is murphy have a look

its straight swap three way hayward grundy mcadam or its nothing maybe throw in a late pick but hayward has been rubbish this year

But he doesn't stuff his shot on goal or kick it to the opposition frequently......

 

[1990crow]

I'm loving this Murphy for Hayward trade option

Himmelburg could take Haywards home in Sydney.

 

[LoBu]

Jhf was always a massive risk for them.. too bad for them and lucky for us they turned down our ridiculous offer

Maybe not, we still might have got Dawson and Rankine but have no first this year.

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[Hodgy]

Maybe not, we still might have got Dawson and Rankine but have no first this year.

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Probably would have. The question is whether he would have stayed with us. Again, probably.

this is why I will never be critical of the club for being aggressive with future picks if it doesn’t work. It’s bloody hard to win flags in this league and it won’t happen from being conservative. those gambles won’t always work, but you have to anti up if you want to succeed. Pick 4 for Wayne Carey is a great example. Didn’t work but I have no problem with us trying it considering the side we had at the time.

 

[DaKids]

People here forget the old Swannies are pretty professional. They don’t suffer fools and they don’t gift games.

Whatever you blokes might think of his raw stats, young Hayward has been a constant in a pretty successful system. Would walk into the crows 22. Good recollection of Will from school days. He’ll make your team better

 

[Jirkago75]

Its because he isnt a star mid. So some choose to diminish a career and playing ability. I agree, I think in our forward line he could prove to create a real 7 player threat. Walker, Rankine, Fogarty, Thilthorpe, Pedlar, Rachele and Hayward. Not to mention Gollant on the fringes. It would allow better rotations into the middle with Pedlar, Berry, Rachele etc. I definitely think Hayward would be a massive get.

I’d rather give Gollant a full year in AFL and try get Hayward next year for free


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[GreyCrow]

People here forget the old Swannies are pretty professional. They don’t suffer fools and they don’t gift games.

Whatever you blokes might think of his raw stats, young Hayward has been a constant in a pretty successful system. Would walk into the crows 22. Good recollection of Will from school days. He’ll make your team better

Yep , a look at his stats suggest there is plenty to work with

The only knock could be his numbers have stayed static his whole career - drifting around the 10-12 disposal average . But 159 goals and Inside 50 tackle counts suggests he works hard .

Playing exclusively HFF would contribute to those disposal numbers but he seems to be on par with others

 

[Betts are off]

I have to wonder what Haywards motivation is for leaving the Swans (if indeed this has any validity).

Seems to love Sydney, perfect age bracket in the Swans, plays in a team making finals, still in contract and presumably paid well enough.

What's the driver here? Is there best 22 pressure from underneath at the Swans?

 

[DaKids]

Yep , a look at his stats suggest there is plenty to work with

The only knock could be his numbers have stayed static his whole career - drifting around the 10-12 disposal average . But 159 goals and Inside 50 tackle counts suggests he works hard .

Playing exclusively HFF would contribute to those disposal numbers but he seems to be on par with others

That may also tell you he’s played his role and he’s played it consistently and successfully. Missed very few games since starting in 2017. Would you think swannies are a club that know wheat from chaff? Show no signs of wanting him gone either.

 

[1990crow]

I have to wonder what Haywards motivation is for leaving the Swans (if indeed this has any validity).

Seems to love Sydney, perfect age bracket in the Swans, plays in a team making finals, still in contract and presumably paid well enough.

What's the driver here? Is there best 22 pressure from underneath at the Swans?

Dollars? We missed out on Day.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Thats what a renowned Collingwood supporter would say, Mr Spackler.

Should change his username to DrugsAreBadMcGuire

 

[DJ75]

I have to wonder what Haywards motivation is for leaving the Swans (if indeed this has any validity).

Seems to love Sydney, perfect age bracket in the Swans, plays in a team making finals, still in contract and presumably paid well enough.

What's the driver here? Is there best 22 pressure from underneath at the Swans?

Maybe he wants to live back home in Adelaide?
Maybe he doesn't want to spend his entire career stuck on a HFF and can see he won't play midfield in Sydney. Maybe there is an opportunity at Crows to do that?

 

[Mutineer]

I’d rather give Gollant a full year in AFL and try get Hayward next year for free


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Makes more sense to me too.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I’d rather give Gollant a full year in AFL and try get Hayward next year for free


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Gollant isn't going to succeed at AFL level, until he softens his hands

 

[Crow-eater]

Sydney seemingly out of the race for McKay. Wonder how that will effect any Hayward decisions. (If it's even true, it is Rowey we're talking about here)

 

[croweater 41]

Not necessarily related but McKay choice down to Ess/Haw which may see Sydney re-enter the Doedee race which was the rumour a week or so back.

Bris, Syd, Coll? all potentially jacking the price up to hopefully band 2-ish areas.

 

[Mutineer]

Gollant isn't going to succeed at AFL level, until he softens his hands

He's already done pretty well at AFL level with limited exposure...

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He's already done pretty well at AFL level with limited exposure...

I'll stick by my assessment .....a tall forward with hard hands isn't going to last long

 

[Betts are off]

Maybe he wants to live back home in Adelaide?
Maybe he doesn't want to spend his entire career stuck on a HFF and can see he won't play midfield in Sydney. Maybe there is an opportunity at Crows to do that?

I'm not seeing a midfield move TBH. I watched a lot of Swans footy when I lived in NSW, and Hayward looks every bit the career HFF.

 

[Crow till I die]

I'm not seeing a midfield move TBH. I watched a lot of Swans footy when I lived in NSW, and Hayward looks every bit the career HFF.

Great - he can take the majority of that role and Pedlar, Rankine and Rachele get to be in the midfield more..That works perfectly

 

[Betts are off]

Dollars? We missed out on Day.

About the only thing that makes sense. Feels like a weird list management pivot though.

Maybe we literally need to spend some salary cap $$ this offseason

 

[1990crow]

About the only thing that makes sense. Feels like a weird list management pivot though.

Maybe we literally need to spend some salary cap $$ this offseason

The reality is its likely end of next Sloane, Tex and Smith contracts will come of the books.
Will be cap room you'd think to make a major play for a free agent mid like McCluggage.

Doesn't look possible this year and instead bringing in Petty, Hayward and Chol (whilst losing Doedee, Himmelburg, McAdam and maybe Sholl).
And possibly a top midfield prospect at the draft?

 

[Bearded Clam]

We can’t get a top midfielder if none are available, that’s the issue. You can’t win a flag without one and I they say next year is full of quality midfielders. I don’t think Welsh will be too 5, think closer to 10, plus he hasn’t been able to stay on the park long enough.
Typical Adelaide, wrong draft for needs.

Most gun midfielder play in the first year and will


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If the draft next year is so full if gun mids..

Then who’s gonna want to trade out of it just so we can get in front of any potential bid on tyler?..

Current phantom drafts have him at pick 3..

 

[Betts are off]

The reality is its likely end of next Sloane, Tex and Smith contracts will come of the books.
Will be cap room you'd think to make a major play for a free agent mid like McCluggage.

Doesn't look possible this year and instead bringing in Petty, Hayward and Chol (whilst losing Doedee, Himmelburg, McAdam and maybe Sholl).
And possibly a top midfield prospect at the draft?

Yeah, there is most definately going to be some serious sheckles available soon.

On a separate not I have my fingers crossed Tex stays on the books for 1 more season after this at his current level of play or there abouts.

He needs 116 goals to clip Wayne Carey (727) to enter the top 20 of all time. That's my new target for him.