List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[crow2crow]

Will be interesting to see who the Pies chase to replace Murphy.

Sam Frost? He not getting a game a hawks if battle and barrass arrive.

 

[Redline]

What I mean is were the Berry/Keane to Collingwood rumours BS and there were actually no suitors

I think there was some interest but going by the length of the contracts maybe not as much as their Managers were leaking to the media.

With the strength of this year's draft it seems unless its for a real quality player, Victorian clubs seem reluctant to part with picks like they normally would.

 

[MRB37]

Keane - North, Saints and Pies

Berry - Im not sure there was any real interest or we would have traded him I'm sure

Heard Richmond were tracking Keane too until they grabbed Jacob Blight in the MSD.

 

[Crow till I die]

Heard Richmond were tracking Keane too until they grabbed Jacob Blight in the MSD.

Grandson of Malcolm

 

[Mostyn]

Did we get schooled by Berry and Keane's managers?

Are you taking the position of "whatever happened, it must have been wrong because we did it"?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Are you taking the position of "whatever happened, it must have been wrong because we did it"?

The talk of Keane pining for the strong Irish community of Melbourne could all have been legit, sure.

But my money would be on BS all along

Not saying I called it at the time mind you. I thought Keane would leave at our urging because Butts, Murray, Worrell, Keane is one too many first choice talls.

 

[Vader]

Are you taking the position of "whatever happened, it must have been wrong because we did it"?

That's DABM's standard position on almost everything.

 

[MRB37]

The talk of Keane pining for the strong Irish community of Melbourne could all have been legit, sure.

But my money would be on BS all along

Not saying I called it at the time mind you. I thought Keane would leave at our urging because Butts, Murray, Worrell, Keane is one too many first choice talls.

There is a chance we took that position, found out he wanted Collingwood, heard from Collingwood "this is all we're gonna give you" and figured it was more valuable to keep him than trade him for unders.

Given his preference seemed to be to get a long-term deal, I think if we later had an offer from a Victorian team and they offered fair compensation we can still go to Keane and say "any interest?". At least now we stay in control over the next 3-4 years. He's a good player at the end of the day, if it just works out he plays for us in that time then it's still a win IMO. One of the more creative offensive players we have back there.

 

[bigman]

Bonds non recontacting is interesting. Got rave reviews from coaches each week. Nicksy hyperbole about his performances and attitude. He surprised me i must say, even though Bicks was always strong on him.

His selection above Ryan surprised me but he did well and although largely defensive in nature he quelled a number of very good players in his time in defence and occasionally on the ball. Saw a real future for him as a shut down defender and in time a midfield tagger.

I thought he would have been given a 12 month extension or two year contract by now and certainly after the season finished.

 

[whattagun07]

Trade bell on SEN with Edmund

Harry Perryman

36

Harry Perryman

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

216.2

3star

D

18.5

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

7.9

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

301.3

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

83.2

2star

- certain to leave according to Edmund. Destination unknown. Port, Hawks, Coll in the mix. 6 year offer on the table from GWS who believe they've been priced out.

Isaac Cumming

13

Isaac Cumming

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

MG

158.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

158.0

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.6

4star

- Adelaide chasing. GWS max offer is 4 years.

Luko - no trade request or desire to leave. Crows 'really keen', has also got interest from Vic.

Caleb Daniel

35

Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

- now preferring to stay.

So pretty much nothing new.

 

[1990crow]

Trade bell on SEN with Edmund

Harry Perryman - certain to leave according to Edmund. Destination unknown. Port, Hawks, Coll in the mix. 6 year offer on the table from GWS who believe they've been priced out.

Isaac Cumming - Adelaide chasing. GWS max offer is 4 years.

Luko - no trade request or desire to leave. Crows 'really keen', has also got interest from Vic.

Caleb Daniel - now preferring to stay.

So pretty much nothing new.

Lukosius situation is very weird.

 

[crow2crow]

Trade bell on SEN with Edmund

Harry Perryman - certain to leave according to Edmund. Destination unknown. Port, Hawks, Coll in the mix. 6 year offer on the table from GWS who believe they've been priced out.

Isaac Cumming - Adelaide chasing. GWS max offer is 4 years.

Luko - no trade request or desire to leave. Crows 'really keen', has also got interest from Vic.

Caleb Daniel - now preferring to stay.

So pretty much nothing new.

so with luko given what GC have said they must be pushing him out.

 

[crow2crow]

Lukosius situation is very weird.

is it? he has a contract and doesnt want to leave. they want him to go

 

[1990crow]

is it? he has a contract and doesnt want to leave. they want him to go

By that I mean Lukosius has no real incentive to leave, GC is boxed into a corner and if the offer is second round and Jack agrees to go they aren't going to turn around and say 1st rounder or no deal.

 

[jackster83]

Lukosius situation is very weird.

I think it might end up a "wait 12 months and try again" scenario for both us and Port.

 

[Peter Doherty]

I caught Cal Twomey say this morning very matter of factly, 'Adelaide will offer pick 25 for ANB and Melbourne will accept'.

That's so ****ed.

 

[MRB37]

I caught Cal Twomey say this morning very matter of factly, 'Adelaide will offer pick 25 for ANB and Melbourne will accept'.

That's so ****ed.

That's a very David Noble trade. "Sometimes you gotta overpay to keep trade relations on good terms"

 

[DJ75]

I caught Cal Twomey say this morning very matter of factly, 'Adelaide will offer pick 25 for ANB and Melbourne will accept'.

That's so ****ed.

That would be utterly insane. A 3rd rounder would be generous. There is absolutely no need to offer anything more. None.

 

[PeterSalt]

By that I mean Lukosius has no real incentive to leave, GC is boxed into a corner and if the offer is second round and Jack agrees to go they aren't going to turn around and say 1st rounder or no deal.

TBH - I don't know that I care that much 1 way or the other if we land Luko

I think the incentive to leave is to play regular footy in the 1's

 

[crow2crow]

That would be utterly insane. A 3rd rounder would be generous. There is absolutely no need to offer anything more. None.

makes no difference seriously that pick will get swallowed in an early welsh bid anyway. might get something back.

 

[Redline]

If you were Luko why would you leave to join us. The big money and length of contract will still be on offer in 12 months.

Hardwick will pick him at some stage and the Suns look to have the best ever chance of playing finals next year.

Port makes a bit more sense as they will most likely play finals.

At the end of day I don't think either us or Port want to give up the draft capital the Suns currently want. Maybe in 12 months.

 

[crow2crow]

If you were Luko why would you leave to join us. The big money and length of contract will still be on offer in 12 months.

Hardwick will pick him at some stage and the Suns look to have the best ever chance of playing finals next year.

Port makes a bit more sense as they will most likely play finals.

At the end of day I don't think either us or Port want to give up the draft capital the Suns currently want. Maybe in 12 months.

no guarantee port or GC better than us next year

the reason to go to port is they will play him fwd. suns and adelaide wont lets face it.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Trade bell on SEN with Edmund

Harry Perryman - certain to leave according to Edmund. Destination unknown. Port, Hawks, Coll in the mix. 6 year offer on the table from GWS who believe they've been priced out.

Isaac Cumming - Adelaide chasing. GWS max offer is 4 years.

Luko - no trade request or desire to leave. Crows 'really keen', has also got interest from Vic.

Caleb Daniel - now preferring to stay.

So pretty much nothing new.

Mmmm .....don't the ITK posters reckon Luko to Port ......strange, Edmund is normally all over these things, must have got his Luko predictions wrong

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I caught Cal Twomey say this morning very matter of factly, 'Adelaide will offer pick 25 for ANB and Melbourne will accept'.

That's so ****ed.

It's probably fair, given what pick MELB gave us for McAdam ....there'll be steak knives attached to the deal, you'd think

 

[Crow till I die]

It's probably fair, given what pick MELB gave us for McAdam ....there'll be steak knives attached to the deal, you'd think

Yeah at that price, the steak knives better be Melbourne F1 to us and our F2 to them