Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 3

[1970crow]

He wasn't offered the opportunity to cross examine the witness on some text messages about her state of mind earlier in the evening.

Well, that's not a technicality, that's deliberate withholding of evidence that should be made available to the defence . Not surprising with these kinds of prosecutions though, thwe saw with Drumgold how little modern DPP care for rules of justice. Shameful.

 

[El Doederino]

Just glad The AFC is not the front-page AFL story so far this year.

Give it time

 

[El Doederino]

Disappointed there was no one dressed as Bruce Lehrmann

 

[LoBu]

Yep & he can be playing coach in the sanfl.

Can captain the team too.

Is that right? Definitely then, Smith is apparently very good with the younger kids, he did that under 18s coaching when he did his knee didn't he?

 

[1970crow]

You think she went all the way to trial on a tape accusation, including exposing herself to cross examination, on an event that didn't have a negative impact on her?

I'll ask again, how was it "obviously traumatic"? And was she fully exposed to cross examination, given we know the prosecution deliberately and illegally protected aspects of the event that would harm her accusation?

 

[jamesclean]

Good leadership

I don't follow AFLW anything (bc patriarchy) but the first comment is pretty dope "but she’s ok with a teammates stance to not participate in Pride Round"

being ok with people sitting out of the pride round (and not sitting out of their entire career) is pissweak leadership

people are so complicated!!!!!!!!

 

[MarcusP2]

Well, that's not a technicality, that's deliberate withholding of evidence that should be made available to the defence . Not surprising with these kinds of prosecutions though, thwe saw with Drumgold how little modern DPP care for rules of justice. Shameful.

It was nothing to do with the DPP, it was argued in court. The defence were aware of it.

"As NSWCCA Justice Stephen Rothman explained last week, the trial judge had refused to give Hayne the opportunity to examine the woman regarding the new material and her failure to disclose these communications with Smiles and Page."

A retrial was ordered because the appeal court thought he could still have been found guilty even if that cross was allowed (though this was not unanimous). The DPP elected not to proceed.

 

[MarcusP2]

I'll ask again, how was it "obviously traumatic"? And was she fully exposed to cross examination, given we know the prosecution deliberately and illegally protected aspects of the event that would harm her accusation?

Yeah you made the last part up. There's no suggestion of misconduct on the prosecutors part.

 

[El Doederino]

The Wooly Bay Hotel already getting slammed with 1 star Google reviews.

 

[Crow till I die]

It was nothing to do with the DPP, it was argued in court. The defence were aware of it.

"As NSWCCA Justice Stephen Rothman explained last week, the trial judge had refused to give Hayne the opportunity to examine the woman regarding the new material and her failure to disclose these communications with Smiles and Page."

A retrial was ordered because the appeal court thought he could still have been found guilty even if that cross was allowed (though this was not unanimous). The DPP elected not to proceed.

Why? (bolded bit)

 

[MarcusP2]

Why? (bolded bit)

Typically after 3 trials they don't try again, though their reasons were not disclosed.

 

[feenix67]

Ponder this.

Connor Idun

39

Connor Idun

Age

24

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

74.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

74.0

1star

, a black man, was fined for depicting a scene in a movie depicting black slavery. His penalty was administered by... a white man.

Seriously, you cant make this shit up.

 

[jamesclean]

feenix69 bout to start a petition for a black judge #woke #dei

 

[MrBarry]

Ponder this.

Connor Idun, a black man, was fined for depicting a scene in a movie depicting black slavery. His penalty was administered by... a white man.

Seriously, you cant make this shit up.

His ethnicity shouldn't get him off tbh.

 

[feenix67]

His ethnicity shouldn't get him off tbh.

Yeah imagine having the nerve to mock your own ancestors.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Did Chris Judd cop a penalty for that fishing trip where some draftee got hazed and ended up paralytic?

 

[crow2crow]

AFL went with the old "suspend the duds and fine the good players" move

theyre so predictable

 

[feenix67]

Did Chris Judd cop a penalty for that fishing trip where some draftee got hazed and ended up paralytic?

I can't recall any post season fines. None from various Las Vegas drug binges, none from any similar " dress up" themed pub crawls. Nada.

 

[cmndstab]

Chris Judd retired a decade ago. Not exactly relevant.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yeah imagine having the nerve to mock your own ancestors.

I dont know the details other than this arose on the back of a complaint of the pub owner but it reads like the AFL have way more information than just the complaint. Did they post it to social media? surely has camera footage.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I can't recall any post season fines. None from various Las Vegas drug binges, none from any similar " dress up" themed pub crawls. Nada.

AFL are now run by lawyers who love to litigate...

 

[spenze]

Anyways, back onto rumours, we are not done with delistings

 

[cleanhands]

Anyways, back onto rumours, we are not done with delistings

So there is still hope?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Anyways, back onto rumours, we are not done with delistings

Is this hope or rumour

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Chris Judd retired a decade ago. Not exactly relevant.

?

Wasn't trying to make a point that Greene shouldn't have been penalised

My recollection is that Judd did get penalised, or at the very least that Caro & others absolutely teed off on him