Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 16 - Lions v Demons Fri June 28th 7:40pm AEST (Gabba)

[EagleMan87]

Also Eagles fans: "boooo!"

See you Sunday

 

[BringFevBack2021]

This is bottom 6 footy

 

[Chism]

Do you think umpires actually measure how far a player runs?

How do you think they come to the conclusion that a player has run 15m?

I had this debate when Rankine was done for it.

Ok 15 steps may not be exactly 15m but it is the easiest and most fool proof way for an Ump to adjudicate it and it has been this way for decades. Much easier to count steps than actually measure distance and a kick going 15m is hard enough and botched all the time.

 

[Roobs321]

JB: "Hipwood doesn't miss!"

not sure I'd use that phrase personally lol

 

[Chuckie357]

Haha may you moron

 

[bzparkes]

Also Eagles fans: "boooo!"

Watched an Essendon game lately? They boo the ball up ffs.

 

[The King!]

Wowzers Dees

 

[bzparkes]

I had this debate when Rankine was done for it.

Ok 15 steps may not be exactly 15m but it is the easiest and most fool proof way for an Ump to adjudicate it and it has been this way for decades. Much easier to count steps than actually measure distance and a kick going 15m is hard enough and botched all the time.

Except it's 15 metres, not 15 steps. That is the rule.

It's a very shit rule for sure. There needs to be a far better, and easier, way to tell if a player has run too far.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Instead, if people want the rules applied consistently, don't complain about when it's correctly applied for once.

WTF??

The rule is adjudicated poorly, every week - but when it's actually applied to the letter of the law randomly on one occasion, fans should celebrate it??

People want it applied consistently. Consistently means that if you're applying a certain way, keep applying it the same way. That's literally what consistently means.

 

[VinnieB]

Only thing hard about Fritsche is his hair.

 

[hawkman]

I had this debate when Rankine was done for it.

Ok 15 steps may not be exactly 15m but it is the easiest and most fool proof way for an Ump to adjudicate it and it has been this way for decades. Much easier to count steps than actually measure distance and a kick going 15m is hard enough and botched all the time.

Umpires are never going to count steps, they already have enough to think about without having to count steps each time a player goes for a run

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I had this debate when Rankine was done for it.

Ok 15 steps may not be exactly 15m but it is the easiest and most fool proof way for an Ump to adjudicate it and it has been this way for decades. Much easier to count steps than actually measure distance and a kick going 15m is hard enough and botched all the time.

So you think they actually start counting every single time a player takes possession of the ball?

 

[Roobs321]

that Lever mark paid way too late, come on umps

 

[bzparkes]

WTF??

The rule is adjudicated poorly, every week - but when it's actually applied to the letter of the law randomly on one occasion, fans should celebrate it??

People want it applied consistently. Consistently means that if you're applying a certain way, keep applying it the same way. That's literally what consistently means.

So how do you apply it consistently, by pretending it doesn't exist?

That makes zero sense.

If you want a rule applied consistently, don't start complaining when they actually start paying it by whinging that they didn't a few weeks ago.

 

[BG32]

Is the AFL going to give us that River goal?

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Umpires are never going to count steps, they already have enough to think about without having to count steps each time a player goes for a run

Exactly.

That's why it's so absurd when they randomly pluck a 'Too Far' out of their arse unless it's completely and utterly blatantly obvious.

 

[BG32]

How the **** did he pass that test? Lmaoo

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

I had this debate when Rankine was done for it.

Ok 15 steps may not be exactly 15m but it is the easiest and most fool proof way for an Ump to adjudicate it and it has been this way for decades. Much easier to count steps than actually measure distance and a kick going 15m is hard enough and botched all the time.

Of course its eye-balled, but nobody in the league would have 1 metre running stride. Far more likely that 15 metres is closer to 10-11 steps for a lot of players.

 

[Chism]

Except it's 15 metres, not 15 steps. That is the rule.

It's a very shit rule for sure. There needs to be a far better, and easier, way to tell if a player has run too far.

Change the rule from meters to steps or strides for all players.

Easy and the Umps have actually adjudicated it this way since the game began. It is only now with technology and vision of Usain Bolt etc people want to be picky in stating that 15 steps can vary from player to player in actual meters covered and use it to form an argument that suits ones own agenda.

 

[Delisted]

Did BT just say "Swashbuckling ball"?

 

[Chism]

Of course its eye-balled, but nobody in the league would have 1 metre running stride. Far more likely that 15 metres is closer to 10-11 steps for a lot of players.

At full speed a stride does actually cover more distance than say a casual jog.

 

[bzparkes]

Change the rule from meters to steps or strides for all players.

Easy and the Umps have actually adjudicated it this way since the game began. It is only now with technology and vision of Usain Bolt etc people want be not picky in sating that 15 steps can vary from player to player in actual meters covered and use it to form an argument that suits ones own agenda.

Actually, that's still too hard, so just simplify it and make it time in possession. For example, 4 seconds, whether you're moving or not.

 

[danster168]

good effort to get back in the game with the umps murdering us

 

[The King!]

Pickett is running very hard tonight, deserved a reward.

 

[Billy ray]

There should be no minimum distance for a kick to be a kick or a maximum distance a player can run without bouncing. Two rules which cannot be anything but guessed. Its not like the NFL where they have 1 yard notches on screen and stop after every play and have a measuring tool.
Theres no minimum kick length for a goal to be a goal in say soccer - a tap in is a tap in.
Its a good example - two in fact - of where out rules rely on guesses and should be abolished. Unless there are say captains calls and they stop Play and bring out a measuring length of rope

Yes i know people will reply with they are parts of the game. But really would the game suffer if a player didn’t bounce the ball. Or if a short kick was paid a mark?