Freo’s midfield & ball movement can only be described as pedestrian, Carlton won’t get that luxury this week.
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I was there.
I was in awe. Carlton fans around me didn’t know what had hit them, they were just stunned. Most were laughing by 3qt.
Then I was in despair.
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Before the start of the season, we supposedly had the toughest draw in the competition - nobody in their wildest dreams could have imagined 14-2 after 16 games. So yeah: the last 7 games aren't easy, but this group clearly believes they can beat anyone, anywhere, any time. That sort of belief is tough to conquer, as Carlton will hopefully find out on Saturday.
That for a team that was struggling for Ruck and KPD options even without injuries.
Posted this in today's game thread but fits here.
Against Carlton at Docklands next week - and they have no (recognised) ruck with both Marc Pittonet and De Koning out due to injury. So no need for a tap ruckman with no mobility as it will leave our mids exposed to a smaller faster centre bounce set up.
So Hayes out. (sorry Schulzy).
Give Dixon and his peg leg a well earned rest before Collingwood.
Bring in Ollie Lord (who's back from suspension) to rotate with Finlayson in the ruck
And I'm not sure what we do to replace McKenzie if his ankle is something serious but the SANFL form of a couple of players looks pretty good and surely Duursma has done enough to get a spot back in the As.
Narkle stays in. And maybe Burgoyne gets another look with Rioli out for personal reasons.
Oh the burn.
We’ve won 13 in a row so I doesn’t appear to be an issue right now and predicting our bubble bursting and laugh reacting to it is a bit of a red flag to me.
The post history is questionable to say the least.
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Surprised to note that the suns game was actually our highest contested possession count for the year.
They made us earn it and they were clearly up for the fight to make amends for the previous week.
Which begs the question was the game as bad as many have suggested. Is not enough credit been given to the suns for their string response?
Expecting champagne footy like the 3rd quarter for the whole game is probably a little unrealistic.
We shifted gears when we needed to. And it’s actually quite impressive that we’ve got the ability to kill a side with an avalanche in such a short space of time.
3rd quarter has become a bit of a thing, particularly at home. Brisbane, Geelong and suns have been completely left for dead on the 3rd quarters.
We really shouldn’t be worried about Carlton.
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They made us earn it and they were clearly up for the fight to make amends for the previous week.
Which begs the question was the game as bad as many have suggested. Is not enough credit been given to the suns for their string response?
Expecting champagne footy like the 3rd quarter for the whole game is probably a little unrealistic.
We shifted gears when we needed to. And it’s actually quite impressive that we’ve got the ability to kill a side with an avalanche in such a short space of time.
3rd quarter has become a bit of a thing, particularly at home. Brisbane, Geelong and suns have been completely left for dead on the 3rd quarters.
We really shouldn’t be worried about Carlton.
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The options are selecting Jonas or shifting a current player in the 22 to cover McKenzie. Unless they consider moving Burton to Mackenzie's spot. Carlton's tall forwards stretch us regardless.
I keep saying it - none of our current defenders have the body size or strength to go with Curnow or McKay. Burton is tall, but he's built like a stick, and would get bullied. Bergman is a bit stronger, but gives up extra height, as does Jones.
Jonas has the experience playing on a bigger body - he has to be selected. It may not work out, and then we draw a line through him. If he can do a serviceable job, then that's great. Better we find out now rather than later.
Jonas has magerly struggled in the SANFL, did you watch the Maggies game on the weekend? What from that game makes you think Jonas can come in and play a role on either McKay or Cunow?
The reality is, Jonas isn't up to it anymore. He looks slow and gets too easily out-bodied playing against SANFL players, let a low either of Curnow or McKay.
You'd be inviting a big bag of goals + from who ever you put him on.
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Sorry, I thought you were joking. Have to admit it's a pretty stupid idea. Maybe we could put jed into ruck and butters full back?
Jonas was playing ok and wasn't dropped. I just don't really see a need to bring him back in. Jones can do just as good a job.
Bergman dropping back to replace McKenzie opens a spot for Duursma on the wing.
Bergman dropping back to replace McKenzie opens a spot for Duursma on the wing.
I have to admit, that is terrible defending - but I will note that it's an extremely poor defensive structure there. It's a one on one and the other bloke has the entire 50. That kick could have been short to a lead, over the top or anywhere else really. It's not a good place for any defender to be in.
I haven't watched the game so won't pass comment on his form, though my point is based on his last few AFL games which were OK.
He started the season horribly yes - but was OK before the two suspensions. Not great, but OK.
Bit harsh Ross.
Woodville Oval on Saturday was like the La Brea tarpits.
Judging old end of life warriors like Jonas on a pitch like that in a single side by side marking contest against a young mobile 6'4" guy is not the best measure of whether he is a suitable match up on Marvel.
Not saying Jonas should come in. Just saying that is by no means a fair example of whether he should.
That to me suggests a big lack of knowledge. Burton and Williams would get towelled up. Bergman and Jones may be able to do a job IF the midfield pressure is good, AND he gets a tonne of support from the other defenders coming across.
It wouldn't surprise me if we start Bergman or Jones on him, and have Jonas coming across to help.
Yeah, I reckon Aliir on McKay and Bergman on Curnow and let the rest of the backline and midfield work.
This but had the bizarre option of Finlayson back and lord forward
You might well be right. Aliir takes McKay no doubt and is a good match. Bergs definitely starts in defence.
But remember Bergs is giving up 10 kegs and a couple of inches on Curnow and Curnow is as mobile as any forward. Will take a super effort to make that work.
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