List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[stallon]

Langford could be an option

If we split pick 3 hes the guy id really like to try to get. Dunno where exactly he will end up but if its possible then I want him

 

[Godfather32]

If Smillie is no flight risk I think hed be a good fit.
Ginbey moving to half back opens up another spot for a big contested inside mid. If he can be something remotely like Patrick Cripps thatd be a huge win.

I dont think we need a Draper type necessarily, once we start winning more clearances and get better at holding the ball the possession numbers will rise.
If we could have Reid, Smillie and Hall for example all averaging mid 20s touches in 3 years time as our 3 top mids thatd be completely fine.

Draper then Smillie are who I want, I think one of those guys will still be there at our pick

 

[random260]

If Smillie is no flight risk I think hed be a good fit.
Ginbey moving to half back opens up another spot for a big contested inside mid. If he can be something remotely like Patrick Cripps thatd be a huge win.

I dont think we need a Draper type necessarily, once we start winning more clearances and get better at holding the ball the possession numbers will rise.
If we could have Reid, Smillie and Hall for example all averaging mid 20s touches in 3 years time as our 3 top mids thatd be completely fine.

No absolutely not. Smillie has zero runs on the board. He dropped his bundle in national champs and hasn't played VFL.

Jagga and draper are so far ahead of smillie its not funny. Smillie is too risky.

 

[stallon]

No absolutely not. Smillie has zero runs on the board. He dropped his bundle in national champs and hasn't played VFL.

Jagga and draper are so far ahead of smillie its not funny. Smillie is too risky

Its not inconceivable that Jagga and Draper arent available at our pick...

Just because I said hes a good fit doesnt mean I want him as my first choice. Just chill a bit mate

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Lets not kid ourselves either also. Levi Ashcroft is the number 1 draft pick and probably as clear a number 1 pick as Harley was

 

[random260]

Its not inconceivable that Jagga and Draper arent available at our pick...

Just because I said hes a good fit doesnt mean I want him as my first choice

Then FOS. They have similar runs on the board.

Fos under-age performance is between the smillie bottom and draft year performance.

Or split. But preference is FOS then Split (Murphy Reid pending testing)

 

[stallon]

Then FOS.

His under-age performance is between the smillie bottom and draft year performance.

Or split. But preference is FOS then Split (Murphy Reid)

Im seeing this talk that FOS seems to project more as a half back than a mid.
Smillie fills a similar role as a full time mid that Draper does, a bit less accumulation but better at the contest

 

[ArdentEagle]

Langford could be an option

For me - 100% yes.
Especially if we can split or first and double down.


Pendles and Mundy wouldn't have tested that well either...He has that same poetry in slow motion ability

 

[random260]

The reality is all the tier 2 mids: Lindsay, Lalor, Christian Moraes, Murphy reid and Harvey Langford placement is decided based on combine results

Out of the lot not knowing their combine I have Murphy Reid at the top due to class. But again its dependent on combine.

The tier 2 mids all have the same run on the boards. Exceptional Nat champs no men's games. And playing in league with other kids (coats and private school footy)

 

[TerryFilk]

If Smillie is no flight risk I think hed be a good fit.
Ginbey moving to half back opens up another spot for a big contested inside mid. If he can be something remotely like Patrick Cripps

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Patrick Cripps

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29

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21.0

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10.1

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10.9

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2.5

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6.3

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12.6

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thatd be a huge win.

I dont think we need a Draper type necessarily, once we start winning more clearances and get better at holding the ball the possession numbers will rise.
If we could have Reid, Smillie and Hall for example all averaging mid 20s touches in 3 years time as our 3 top mids thatd be completely fine.

I disagree

We absolutely need a Draper type and several of them, none of our guys can get to contest after contest, nor do they run both ways.

Smillie emphasises everything wrong with our current midfielders, he’s a poor kick albeit a penetrating one, he’s incredibly lazy off the ball, he doesn’t get involved in link up plays and the idea of him is a lot better than what he actually is.

Mids who have that inside / outside blend with good foot skills and adequate pace are exactly what we need.

 

[southcoast]

Caught a brief snippet of Crows v Doggies on ABC this arvo.

One commentator claiming English to Crows is ‘on’


On iPad using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[stallon]

I disagree

We absolutely need a Draper type and several of them, none of our guys can get to contest after contest, nor do they run both ways.

Smillie emphasises everything wrong with our current midfielders, he’s a poor kick albeit a penetrating one, he’s incredibly lazy off the ball, he doesn’t get involved in link up plays and the idea of him is a lot better than what he actually is.

Mids who have that inside / outside blend with good foot skills and adequate pace are exactly what we need.

My first preference isnt to get Smillie. I just said hed be a decent fit, hes different to what we have. If we ended up with Smillie id be ok with it.

My first choice is to trade pick 3 back for 2 picks, even if we get pick 10 for Barrass. 3 picks in the 8-14 area would be my choice. Get Travaglia, Lindsay and Langford in and cover all bases. 2 blokes who can sit on a wing/half back and a mid.

 

[bzparkes]

English doing his best impersonation of a statue against ruck god O'Brien...

 

[eaglespremiers]

Towards the end of the last quarter here and Adelaide is beating the Bulldogs 18 HOs-to-advantage to 3 HOs-to-advantage.

 

[bzparkes]

Caught a brief snippet of Crows v Doggies on ABC this arvo.

One commentator claiming English to Crows is ‘on’


On iPad using BigFooty.com mobile app

Yes, English giving the ball to the Crows is indeed on. having a mare.

 

[bzparkes]

Towards the end of the last quarter here and Adelaide is beating the Bulldogs 18 HOs-to-advantage to 3 HOs-to-advantage.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Pretty much how I see it, we might go FOS instead but flip a coin.

Crows finish the job here against the Dogs and win the Showdown, I reckon the trade won’t happen. Not sure North would want to slide down to 5 and maybe even 6 from pick 2. Would have to be juicy offer

If that happens, it’s likely we would get a juicy offer. And, I would like to make them pay for it.

If Smillie is no flight risk I think hed be a good fit.
Ginbey moving to half back opens up another spot for a big contested inside mid. If he can be something remotely like Patrick Cripps thatd be a huge win.

I dont think we need a Draper type necessarily, once we start winning more clearances and get better at holding the ball the possession numbers will rise.
If we could have Reid, Smillie and Hall for example all averaging mid 20s touches in 3 years time as our 3 top mids thatd be completely fine.

My only knock on Smilie is, he is a man amongst boys.

Unsure if he has played seniors in the VFL and how well he stacked up. But against his own draft class. He just seems to big too strong.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Lets not kid ourselves either also. Levi Ashcroft is the number 1 draft pick and probably as clear a number 1 pick as Harley was

Absolute nonsense. The kid is consistent but doesn't have half the tricks that Harley has.

 

[THE A5]

Curtin with a decent game 2 goals 2 contested grabs and 11 touches.

 

[Cuzz09]

I could've kicked 2 v dogs today. garbage

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[random260]

Curtin with a decent game 2 goals 2 contested grabs and 11 touches.

Curtin got clowned in mid so hard they chucked in HFF where he got 2 goals

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Absolute nonsense. The kid is consistent but doesn't have half the tricks that Harley has.

Umm think you read that wrong. I said Levi is as obvious as a pick 1 as Harley Reid was last year.... Not comparing them to each other

Ashcroft is miles ahead of Smith/FOS/Draper im afraid

 

[eaglespremiers]

FOS will be a HB at the next level.

Smith is well ahead of his development in comparison to others in this draft class. Do not want. Slim frame, short, poor kick.

Smith is 1cm shorter than O'Sullivan and Hotton, the same height as Gross, 1cm taller than Reid and Draper, 2cm taller than Ashcroft and 3cm taller than Lombard.
I get that 181cm may not be particularly tall, however, compared to his cohort (save for Smillie and Langford) they are all about the same height and the same concern must be levelled at them as well.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Umm think you read that wrong. I said Levi is as obvious as a pick 1 as Harley Reid was last year.... Not comparing them to each other

Ashcroft is miles ahead of Smith/FOS/Draper im afraid

Either way I disagree. He is a safe option, but I don't think he is the best option.
Besides opinions are varying regularly on here. Last week everyone was decrying Draper as the "obvious" no. 1 pick.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Noone can still seriously want to pay Tim English big money on a long contract surely