List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[TerryFilk]

If we do get Hawks R1, would it be worth looking at Taj Hotton or would he be too big of a risk of an ACL?

Definitely worth looking at, he’s a top 5-10 talent and was having an incredible start to the season before the injury.

Probably a couple others I’d have ahead of him purely because they are safer picks though.

 

[cacik]

Bit late to the chat but is anyone else relieved the tim english rumours have been put to bed?
Wait for another prime free agent when the list is more developed. Felt like getting him would have been short term decent, long term not so much..

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I have seen him twice live this year at colts and watched his champs games and I just don't see him as lumbering in fact I was surprised how well he moves for a big guy .

He gets separation on the leed and is great below his knees for a 2m unit .

He is great at collecting the ball in tight , knows where to run to link up , great over head and a fierce competitor.

Guess we will see his combine results soon anyway

Eastern is wrong, moves very well has great kicking skills and is a beast
He actually is explosive at times in his movement not sure why he said that think he is getting confused

 

[ArdentEagle]

Loved his work at the start of the year but don’t think we’re in a position to be risking a high pick on a bloke coming off an ACL. If he slipped to 23/28 then might be worth the risk but I’d still rather slide further and gain a F2 and let another team take the risk. A couple have mentioned go home factor but I’m yet to see it in the media or from Hotton himself.

I enjoy your work mate but can't agree with this one - He's worth anything from 10 onwards for mine.
HUGE upside.

 

[WCErevival]

Thoughts on Nathan O'Driscoll from Freo?

Sort of burst onto the scene and then disappeared.
He looked like he had pace and a booming left foot.

From memory he had bad disposal and got dropped quite a few times.

 

[eaglevision]

I enjoy your work mate but can't agree with this one - He's worth anything from 10 onwards for mine.
HUGE upside.

Perfectly reasonable position to take. I rated him top 10 before he did his ACL and if you look back at my posts pre ACL you’ll see how highly I thought of him.

Him and Travaglia absolutely dominated the CTL at the start of the year but I just think there are others in the 10-22 range that are a better chance to work out for us. After TT and Lindsay are off the board I think it’s a great position for us to slide to allow other teams to take some KPP and pay a high cost to us and still get quality list need kids in the late 1R/early 2R.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

AFL Draft 2024: Chris Cavanagh and Dan Batten reveal and rate their top 50 prospects​

It’s not quite being hailed a ‘Super Draft’, but the talent pool for this year’s AFL national draft certainly runs deep.
At the start of the season it was all about the midfielders – and the prized No.1 pick is still expected to come from a group of about six onballers at the pointy end of the order.

However, clubs have been buoyed by the other types of players who have pushed up this year.

There have been intercept defenders, strong marking key forwards, hard running wingmen, livewire small forwards, athletic mobile ruckmen and line-breaking half-backs who have emerged from all over the country.

As a result, early expectations are that more players will be drafted this year than last, with 64 prospects having been picked up in the 2023 national draft.

After consulting a number of recruiters and industry sources, here is the August edition of our Top 50 Draft Prospects for 2024.

Chris Cavanagh and Dan Batten's Top 50 prospects

1. Jagga Smith

2. Levi Ashcroft

3. Finn O'Sullivan

4. Josh Smillie

5. Sid Draper

6. Sam Lalor

7. Luke Trainor

8. Murphy Reid

9. Harry Armstrong

10. Harvey Langford

11. Leo Lombard

12. Bo Allan

13. Isaac Kako

14. Tobie Travaglia

15 Taj Hotton

16. Matt Whitlock

17. Xavier Lindsay

18. Christian Moraes

19. Joe Berry

20. Jack Whitlock

21. Jobe Shanahan

22. Alex Dodson

23. Sam Marshall

24. Cooper Hynes

25. Tom Gross

26. Jonty Faull

27. Logan Smith

28. Harrison Oliver

29. Noah Mraz

30. Alixzander Tauru




31. Jesse Dattoli




32. Tom Sims




33. Harry O'Farrell




34. Ben Camporeale




35. Angus Clarke




36. Adrian Cole




37. Archer Day-Wicks




38. Charlie Nicholls




39. Xavier Ivisic




40. Lachie Jaques




41. Josh Dolan




42. Jasper Alger




43. Joel Cochran




44. Clancy Dennis




45. Lucas Camporeale




46. James Barrat




47. Ollie Warburton




48. Jaxon Artemis




49. Malakai Champion

 

[eaglevision]

Why aren’t we getting statements like this into the media? Some sort of 4D chess?

 

[Obeanie1]

Definitely worth looking at, he’s a top 5-10 talent and was having an incredible start to the season before the injury.

Probably a couple others I’d have ahead of him purely because they are safer picks though.

I don't feel we are in the position to risk a pick on Hotton.

Not at this point.

Not in this draft.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Why aren’t we getting statements like this into the media? Some sort of 4D chess?

Port love a contracted player leaving . It means they can be massive campaigners and the other club can't do anything about it .

 

[Obeanie1]

OK bourbon is in play with this all in 2024 draft heist.

Barrass lands pick 11 plus something ?

We trade 3 and 23 to Freo for 7 and 12 for the Bolton deal.

We trade our F1st to GC for pick 6 and GC F2nd. Maybe grab a 3rd in 2024.

Go to the draft with picks 6, 7, 11 and 12.

6 Lalor
7. Trainor
11. Bo Allan / Lindsy
12. Travaglia
?
39. Champion

 

[Bacchus]

Why aren’t we getting statements like this into the media? Some sort of 4D chess?

How can Port demand two first rounders for Houston and we what for Barrass?

Is Houston a better player than Barrass? I wouldn’t think so.

Why isn’t there a bottom two firsts price tag on Barrass?

 

[DanWCE]

Why aren’t we getting statements like this into the media? Some sort of 4D chess?

We don't play out draft and trade news in the media like a bottom feeding pleb club.

Perhaps if Port had made a GF recently and Houston was a premiership player, they would tread a little more delicately instead of treating players like a pure commodity.

I have no doubt that if a sufficient deal cannot be garnered for TB we would be over the moon to kick him a bit more coin and keep him on our list. However, it is good business to allow the offers to come and see just what we might be able to extract for him, should he wish to finish his career elsewhere.

 

[THE A5]

Barrass will land at Hawks and win an AA. He was more than stiff in 2022. I look forward to how our key forwards will go on him. Think he’ll have have Allen and Waterman in the air but reckon both those lads will work him over with their endurance and work rate and forward smarts

 

[eaglevision]

How can Port demand two first rounders for Houston and we what for Barrass?

Is Houston a better player than Barrass? I wouldn’t think so.

Why isn’t there a bottom two firsts price tag on Barrass?

Barrass is far more valuable than Houston, it’s absurd to think otherwise. If two 1Rs is the precedent then geez we should be asking for a small fortune.

We don't play out draft and trade news in the media like a bottom feeding pleb club.

Perhaps if Port had made a GF recently and Houston was a premiership player, they would tread a little more delicately instead of treating players like a pure commodity.

I have no doubt that if a sufficient deal cannot be garnered for TB we would be over the moon to kick him a bit more coin and keep him on our list. However, it is good business to allow the offers to come and see just what we might be able to extract for him, should he wish to finish his career elsewhere.

We don’t, but we also have a tendency to capitulate at the trade table and for what? We don’t have to be total *s like Essendon or Geelong but you watch Richmond absolutely extort GCS for Rioli and bend Freo over for Bolton. They’ll try the same with Baker (hopefully with Freo).

TB is contracted for a long time, the trade is on our terms or not at all.

 

[twce13]

OK bourbon is in play

We trade our F1st to GC for pick 6 and GC F2nd. Maybe grab a 3rd in 2024.

Bit too much bourbon I think .

We would be lucky to get 6 just for our F1, let alone anything else. Dunno how many examples people need to see of future picks being devalued compared to the present.

 

[Hillsy13]

Media thinking Rioli is worth 2 first rounders and barass isnt actually irritates the fk out of me. It’s insane


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[Obeanie1]

Media thinking Rioli is worth 2 first rounders and barass isnt actually irritates the fk out of me. It’s insane


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Suns have 11 and 20.

Both first round picks.l that will slide.

 

[Obeanie1]

Bit too much bourbon I think .

We would be lucky to get 6 just for our F1, let alone anything else. Dunno how many examples people need to see of future picks being devalued compared to the present.

Suns will always be looking to get ahead of bids in current or future drafts.

We will still finish bottom 5 next year.

So future bottom 5 picks are worth a premium to a clubsl who gets academy access to top 10 picks every year.

 

[Mulldogg]

Kayle Gerreyn named in the ruck for his League debut for West Perth.

 

[eaglevision]

Kayle Gerreyn named in the ruck for his League debut for West Perth.

Would love to see him play in defence.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I have seen him twice live this year at colts and watched his champs games and I just don't see him as lumbering in fact I was surprised how well he moves for a big guy .

He gets separation on the leed and is great below his knees for a 2m unit .

He is great at collecting the ball in tight , knows where to run to link up , great over head and a fierce competitor.

Guess we will see his combine results soon anyway

He's not slow in a straight line but that's about the extent of his athletic prowess. He can't jump and he's way too heavy at the moment.

Competitive sure but he's got no role at AFL as his game currently stands. Closest comparison I can think of a bigger Marcus Adams but he'd need to fix his field kicking and learn how to defend.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

As a fanbase we won't be happy with the Barrass trade outcome.

I'll be happy with Bo Allen.

 

[eaglevision]

I'll be happy with Bo Allen.

If that’s the net result then I’ll happily throw Matthew Clarke in with Barrass for free.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

If that’s the net result then I’ll happily throw Matthew Clarke in with Barrass for free.

I didn't say just Bo Allen. Just think we'll have him around that range of Hawthorns pick.