List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

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  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[stallon]

We literally have 3 mids in our starting rotation.

Hell, even Schofield and Brayshaw couldn't name more than that tonight.

Too many mids? WTF.

We're playing HBFs/HFFs in there because we don't have enough.

All we currently have is Reid, Yeo and Kelly and Kelly should be playing HFF himself.

We don't have any actual wingers, we have Reid and Yeo doing the heavy lifting and Kelly playing a role he's ultimately not suited for.

How anyone can look at our list and think we don't need top end mids is completely beyond me.

If we were to add in a Peatling/Dev type next year, thats 4. Add Hewett rotating in thats 5. Add Hall who will look for game time more next year is 6. Kelly can still rotate in and out is 7. Hutchinson maybe?? is 8.

yes we arent over stocked but we have numbers IF we trade in someone and get healthy. An extra year into the younger guys means theyre more capable of taking more responsibility too.

If we draft Lindsay thats 1 wing sorted, Maric/Duggan/whoever can be the other

Most teams only bring 3-4 pure mids into any game, the rest all have to have another role

 

[sharps24]

Richmond still need to stagger their kids, otherwise theyll ALL be coming out of their first contracts at the same time, itd be a nightmare to manage their salary cap.

Tassy is 2028 I believe, 2024, 2025, 2026 are the drafts for the Tigers to use, not really a huge rush to do it all this year

I don't think adding 1 more player for them unbalances their list. They probably already plan on getting 2 first rounders from Freo for Bolton and could easily miss that. But in any case they will take a bunch of kids and the higher those kids are drafted the better for them. I'd be more concerned about how they are going to meet the salary cap next year when they have no players, than I'd be in 3 years time if every one of their picks becomes a player that needs to be paid 1 million a season.

 

[random260]

Let's worry about getting talent in before we start worrying about our team having too much talent that we can't fit them all


Rofl just lol. Nearly chocked on water

 

[KERRPOW]

FMD.

I hope that includes sauce.......

I cant confirm.

 

[shooshka]

Yes, we know we have pick 3 this year. we know that Richmond will have pick 1-3 next year. Ergo, calculated risk to even break even or improve our position. The idea that the actual risk is that Richmond rise up the ladder and don't even finish bottom 5 next year, after finishing last then gutting their list of 5+ best 22, retiring veterans and replacing them all with 18 years olds is among the most unlikely things that could ever happen in football. They are taking a historic approach to ensure to virtually guarantee they can't be a competitive side next year.

I think most understand the risk you are proposing, we just don’t like it.

We need talent in now (and next year) - so a big no to trading out of the early parts of this draft.




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[KBLT]

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Well, in all likelihood we'll be worse next year, so welcome to WCE 'Freakin' Dyson Sharpe

So do the crows rate Draper or Sharpe more



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[bzparkes]

If we were to add in a Peatling/Dev type next year, thats 4. Add Hewett rotating in thats 5. Add Hall who will look for game time more next year is 6. Kelly can still rotate in and out is 7. Hutchinson maybe?? is 8.

yes we arent over stocked but we have numbers IF we trade in someone and get healthy. An extra year into the younger guys means theyre more capable of taking more responsibility too.

If we draft Lindsay thats 1 wing sorted, Maric/Duggan/whoever can be the other

Most teams only bring 3-4 pure mids into any game, the rest all have to have another role

While we have picks at the pointy end, I want another elite midfielder.

Hewett's got no guarantees his foot will let him be a top end mid.

Dev is a plodder who may have an impact at AFL level for us(if we even get him). Would play a defensive role, I imagine, like Redden.

Peatling is good, no guarantees he comes to us.

Hutchinson's played half a game as a mid. Looked very good, hope he trains there over summer but it's a very small sample size.

Hall can't kick for shit. Good size to play the extractor role though. Keep him as far from the wing role as possible.

Kelly should be an outside receiver. Disposal is shocking under pressure(shocking under no pressure recently also).

Duggan needs to seriously work on his kicking if he's to play a role on the wing.

Maric looks ok on the wing. Would like to see him base his game off Sicily though. Played back before his draft year, so it's not unfamiliar territory for him.

Yeo - Old.

Need someone elite to pair up with Reid at centre bounces and any of the top 5 rated kids in the draft look likely types, all with different strings to their bows.

 

[bzparkes]

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[Peptide Pig]

Could be Darling looking around if he knows hes only got 1 year left at west coast with almost no chance of an extension.

We would get **** all for him, may as well keep him around as an experienced player in the WAFL. But if he wants to go I wouldnt stop him either.

That is what the situation will be. The club won’t push him out for the sake of a late third rounder, but he won’t be best 22 next year and won’t get another contract so if he wants to extend his career then I doubt anyone would stand in his way.

A late pick for Darling might be enough to land one of the fringe guys we like without having to split or trade down. Or if this draft is as deep as they say perhaps there will be some genuine talent available late.

Darling has been a champion player for us so I’d be happy for him to go and push for some extra games and success elsewhere if that’s what he wants.

 

[bzparkes]

So do the crows rate Draper or Sharpe more



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Well, they could conceivably end up with Draper this year simply by doing nothing.

Highly unlikely they end up with Sharpe next year, unless it all goes to complete shit for them.

 

[shooshka]

While we have picks at the pointy end, I want another elite midfielder.

Hewett's got no guarantees his foot will let him be a top end mid.

Dev is a plodder who may have an impact at AFL level for us(if we even get him). Would play a defensive role, I imagine, like Redden.

Peatling is good, no guarantees he comes to us.

Hutchinson's played half a game as a mid. Looked very good, hope he trains there over summer but it's a very small sample size.

Hall can't kick for shit. Good size to play the extractor role though. Keep him as far from the wing role as possible.

Kelly should be an outside receiver. Disposal is shocking under pressure(shocking under no pressure recently also).

Duggan needs to seriously work on his kicking if he's to play a role on the wing.

Maric looks ok on the wing. Would like to see him base his game off Sicily though. Played back before his draft year, so it's not unfamiliar territory for him.

Yeo - Old.

Need someone elite to pair up with Reid at centre bounces and any of the top 5 rated kids in the draft look likely types, all with different strings to their bows.

Maric surely has to play the Witherden role next year.

Taller, faster, better kick. He’s competitive and keeps trying, hasn’t proven he’ll sit in the hole and be as tough as Witherden has been this year - but hasn’t shown anything to say he wouldn’t or couldn’t do that.

One of his issues is production (welcome to the Eagles!), but HBF distributor improves that a lot.


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[eaglevision]

I see other teams doing announcements already - when do the eagles start the cull?

Last year it was just after the first week of finals, can only assume we’ll follow the same process.

 

[Wight Wolf]

Yeah, maybe at worst it is pick 3. But it could be pick 1 or 2. And there is some chance if it's not pick 1 that means we might of beaten them to the spoon so that's fine. Very low risk of backfiring against a team that finished last and retiring 3 premiership players, selling their best player, selling their probably 2024 club champ and selling to us multiple best 22 players. Just how badly would things have to go for us or North, or any club that finished Adelaide or above, to finish bellow Richmond next year? And the OP was talking about Sharp being a clear #1 prospect in the mould of Harley Reid.

If we take 5 kids in the draft this year and 5 next year, by 2030 does it really matter if we take pick 3 this year of 2 pick in the top 5 next year? It depends entirely on who you drafted not where or when you drafted them. And as I said, good luck to any 18 year old being starting midfield next year competing for a spot with Yeo, Kelly, Reid, Graham [who we are trading in to play defensive mid it seems] and either of Baker or Duggan. Oh and there's a kid by the name of Hewitt wanting into that mix as well.

Simply too much risk of this failing bro. Aint no way recruiters put themselves on the chopping block for this. Aint no way I would. Love the creativity but safe option, get top end talent in now.

 

[eaglevision]

So do the crows rate Draper or Sharpe more



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Sharp comfortably from what I’m told. Also still hearing Tigers would take Jagga if the draft was tomorrow.

 

[KBLT]

Hm, not obvious enough?

 

[WCE_phil]

JFC I take a break from one of the busiest days of the year and roll into this crap.

 

[bzparkes]

JFC I take a break from one of the busiest days of the year and roll into this crap.

We're trading #3 and #23 for Baker and Richmond's F1st apparently, because it's a 60% chance of getting us #1 next year, which is an amazing play, supposedly.

Who needs draftees this year anyway? Certainly not WCE!

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I think we can strike Davies off our shopping list. Bought a house on the Gold coast couple months back.

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[KBLT]

JFC I take a break from one of the busiest days of the year and roll into this crap.

As opposed to the usual premium quality of this thread?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I think we can strike Davies off our shopping list. Bought a house on the Gold coast couple months back.

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But where’s he enrolled his kids?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Sharp comfortably from what I’m told. Also still hearing Tigers would take Jagga if the draft was tomorrow.

You and I haven't different mail in Jagar.

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[bzparkes]

But where’s he enrolled his kids?

Aquinas.

 

[eaglevision]

You and I haven't different mail in Jagar.

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I presume you meant we have different mail? We do, will be interesting to see if the tigers telegraph their pick 1 intentions in the media like 2021 Norf or go full clandestine 2023 ROB despite knowing the plan since May.

 

[sharps24]

JFC I take a break from one of the busiest days of the year and roll into this crap.

Phil if I'm not mistaken haven't you said you are not a fan of all of these kids everyone is frothing on and proposed that there were scenarios where we don't have pick 3 either?

Very simply, do you see us playing pick 3 in their position in the best 22 next year? Just curious. I don't really give a shit who we draft I usually wait and see who we pick and then let confirmation bias allow me to believe we've got the best 5 kids in the whole draft.

What specifically would you hate about taking 1 and 3 next year and 12 and 13 this year? Would there be no worthwhile picks with upside in that 1-15 range?