List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

Quick links:
Player contract status
Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)
AFL retirements and delistings

---

Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
  29

  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[eaglevision]

For me I'm happy for one of them to provide the experience. Just taking 18yo resigns us to 3 more years on the bottom. We need 22-26yo players.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

But what would you be happy to pay? The cost would be our 1R for Bolton or our 2R for Baker at the very least.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Disappointing that the U18's game is on the same time as the Eagles game.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Great goal for Bo Allan.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Bo Allan with another goal running outside of 50 after combining with Urquhart through the middle.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

100% we go after baker and play him 100% in our back line. He can take Cole witherden spot today.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Champion with 3 goals in the first half.

 

[Obeanie1]

Besides Bolton being under contract for another four years, pick 7 should still get us a decent mid that will grow with Reid, Ginbey and Hewett. The only reason we would consider bringing in anyone aged 25 or over is if they fill a hole until the 19-21 year olds can fill it. The hole Bolton fills is already filled.

Filled by who?

Long and Brockman? Neither who are established quality players. Brockman yet to kick a goal in Eagles colours.

Just naming a couple of fringe players does not mean we dont trade for quality in that area.

 

[Barrybran]

Filled by who?

Long and Brockman? Neither who are established quality players. Brockman yet to kick a goal in Eagles colours.

Just naming a couple of fringe players does not mean we dont trade for quality in that area.

But what are you trading for Bolton? And what else can you get with those players/picks? I'm not arguing that Bolton doesn't improve our side. I'm arguing that there are better uses of our assets given the state of our list.

 

[WA footy mad]

We could Yeo he has a similar contract.

 

[Obeanie1]

But what are you trading for Bolton? And what else can you get with those players/picks? I'm not arguing that Bolton doesn't improve our side. I'm arguing that there are better uses of our assets given the state of our list.

No, you said we already have younger players to play the role Bolton fills.

So we should use our draft capital on other types.

We certainly have loaded up on big bodied mids and talls. But quality outside goal kicking mids we are very light on. Which is what Bolton is.

Im not saying we go all in on Bolton, I dont like his inconsistency and he is a " cherry on the cake" outside goal kicking mid. But we still need to invest picks in either drafting or trading in some quality outside goal kicking mids.

 

[Barrybran]

No, you said we already have younger players to play the role Bolton fills.

So we should use our draft capital on other types.

We certainly have loaded up on big bodied mids and talls. But quality outside goal kicking mids we are very light on. Which is what Bolton is.

Im not saying we go all in on Bolton, I dont like his inconsistency and he is a " cherry on the cake" outside goal kicking mid. But we still need to invest picks in either drafting or trading in some quality outside goal kicking mids.

I'd rather back Hewett in and try to find a similar type this year and develop him. Look at the game we're currently playing and finding replacements for the likes of Rotham and Witherden are higher up the priority list than Long and Brockman. Cherry on the cake is an excellent phrase and why I mentioned Freo above. We're not at the stage yet where we should be looking to bring in Bolton types. Focus on drafting and development, fill holes where they can be filled economically, round out the list when the foundation is in place.

 

[stylish]

I'd rather back Hewett in and try to find a similar type this year and develop him. Look at the game we're currently playing and finding replacements for the likes of Rotham and Witherden are higher up the priority list than Long and Brockman. Cherry on the cake is an excellent phrase and why I mentioned Freo above. We're not at the stage yet where we should be looking to bring in Bolton types. Focus on drafting and development, fill holes where they can be filled economically, round out the list when the foundation is in place.

Bolton's stats this year are very similar to Warner's whom we all believe is in the best couple midfielders going around and who possess elite speed and foot skills.

One is playing pivot for a team that's head and shoulders above the rest whilst the other is in a team sitting 2nd bottom.

Don't downplay Bolton's impact ina poor team. And he is just 26 - were not talking about a 29 year old.

 

[Barrybran]

Bolton's stats this year are very similar to Warner's whom we all believe is in the best couple midfielders going around and who possess elite speed and foot skills.

One is playing pivot for a team that's head and shoulders above the rest whilst the other is in a team sitting 2nd bottom.

Don't downplay Bolton's impact ina poor team. And he is just 26 - were not talking about a 29 year old.

I don't disagree with you. Both Bolton and Warner are in similar positions in the pecking order with their respective teams and they're at opposite ends of the ladder from one another. Overlay the stats with the eye test and Bolton is a very good player that will improve our side but when you overlay that with what it will cost to get him and how he'll add to our side, it's not worth it... yet. Warner will complement our side as it currently stands better than Bolton will. And he's two years younger.

 

[stylish]

I don't disagree with you. Both Bolton and Warner are in similar positions in the pecking order with their respective teams and they're at opposite ends of the ladder from one another. Overlay the stats with the eye test and Bolton is a very good player that will improve our side but when you overlay that with what it will cost to get him and how he'll add to our side, it's not worth it... yet. Warner will complement our side as it currently stands better than Bolton will. And he's two years younger.

Be a nice position to be able to choose either & WC should be creative.

Split this years first for say 7 and 14. Use 7 & our second this year on Bolton and Baker asking for Richmond's future 3rd back. Then offer that pick for Busslinger.

Go to Sydney with our 1st and 2nd from 2025 for Warner getting their future second back.

 

[UseR2006]

Why are we not interested in Jagga?

 

[noobermensch]

Jagga was comfortably BOG for a victorious Metro side in a tough game against a valiant WA. He was outstanding through the first three quarters when the game was in the balance. No matter whether he was playing in the midfield, on a wing or in the forward line he was prolific at finding the footy as well as clean and creative when he had it in hand. His standout quality on the day (as always) was his movement through traffic and ability to find those pockets of space to pick out the right option.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Sure, it's very light on. But expecting a bunch of kids to dominate the WAFL and get 35 disposals a game in order to get a call up is ridiculous.

That's exactly what we should be expecting from anyone we have drafted.

Like this.

Talented Tiger shines at VFL level, Zebras and Suns fight out a draw

The latest from Round 11 of the VFL.

www.sen.com.au

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Godfather32]

That's exactly what we should be expecting from anyone we have drafted.

Like this.

Talented Tiger shines at VFL level, Zebras and Suns fight out a draw

The latest from Round 11 of the VFL.

www.sen.com.au

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

So you expect us to wait to play our young blokes until they can literally lead the league in disposals per game?

 

[mitchzz]

Jagga was comfortably BOG for a victorious Metro side in a tough game against a valiant WA. He was outstanding through the first three quarters when the game was in the balance. No matter whether he was playing in the midfield, on a wing or in the forward line he was prolific at finding the footy as well as clean and creative when he had it in hand. His standout quality on the day (as always) was his movement through traffic and ability to find those pockets of space to pick out the right option.

At this stage, I'm much more interested Smith at 3 than Draper

My only worry with Smith is his slight frame. Worry he'd be one of those guys who can never seem to add the size required to excel at AFL

His pure ball-winning ability would pair well with the X-factor of Reid and Hewett and the strength of Ginbey

 

[eaglevision]

At this stage, I'm much more interested Smith at 3 than Draper

My only worry with Smith is his slight frame. Worry he'd be one of those guys who can never seem to add the size required to excel at AFL

His pure ball-winning ability would pair well with the X-factor of Reid and Hewett and the strength of Ginbey

I think Draper has the higher ceiling, but to date (and acknowledging off a limited season) he does go missing at times but it feels like you always know what you’re going to get with Jagga. Whilst perhaps not a game breaker, he’s highly reliable and as you say an elite accumulator and distributor would be a good foil for impact mids like Hewett and Harley who only need to touch it 18-20 times to really hurt you. Very happy to see him and Trainor pushing themselves up the draft order.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

At this stage, I'm much more interested Smith at 3 than Draper

My only worry with Smith is his slight frame. Worry he'd be one of those guys who can never seem to add the size required to excel at AFL

His pure ball-winning ability would pair well with the X-factor of Reid and Hewett and the strength of Ginbey

YEA I am the total opposite Jagga movement and decision making is good his kicking is poor even when he hits a target its a loopy slow kick, when he get physical pressure on him its worst

If he makes it, its as a outside winger or small forward, could not play him in the middle at AFL level

Draper on the other hand stands up to physical pressure much better

Urquhart fixes his kicking efficiency will be one of the best in this draft, that hip operation has effected
his kicking action WA academy believe it can be fixed with time
The operation effected his ball drop and he is still adjusting to his new kicking style

Bo Allan just want us to draft him he fills a need and is underrated

Gerryn was disappointing

Malaki just not sure on him i would not use a top pick 40 on him if someone else wants him earlier let them have him

Hamish Davis going to be a very good pick up who ever gets him

 

[random260]

Smillie was dissaponting according to the posts. Sad!! He's sliding ****.

The only good thing is Jagga is putting some sort of carnival so I'm longer throwing toys out of the cot if he goes as I expect

1. FOS
2. Draper
3. Jagga

Jagga at worst will be a solid winger not a centre square player

 

[bzparkes]

At this stage, I'm much more interested Smith at 3 than Draper

My only worry with Smith is his slight frame. Worry he'd be one of those guys who can never seem to add the size required to excel at AFL

His pure ball-winning ability would pair well with the X-factor of Reid and Hewett and the strength of Ginbey

Mates with Reid as well, apparently.

 

[TerryFilk]

Jagga is a weird prospect or at least he’s viewed weirdly (by myself included)

It seems we give others a lot more lenience with their flaws but with Jagga, we give nothing.

His resume is flawless, he has constantly proved people wrong, he has been Vic Metros best player in both of their games despite them having star studded options in the midfield and across the ground, he’s one of the best accumulators at junior level the sport has ever seen and he’s not getting all cheap footy either, he’s genuinely a very good extractor and clearance player, his field kicking is above average although I wouldn’t say it’s elite and he has a decent set of wheels.

I just can’t see how Jagga’s game doesn’t translate to the next level, I think he can be our McKercher (not saying they are exactly the same, but think their roles can be similar).

Not sure what else he can do to make people be convinced by him, but I’m fully aboard the Jagga train now, still prefer O’Sullivan over him but I’ll take whatever one is left at 2 or 3 happily.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

So you expect us to wait to play our young blokes until they can literally lead the league in disposals per game?

No I expect them to show something relative to their position and what they're drafted for. for example Hutchinson has great form in the VFL, we take him MSD and a week later he kicks 5 in the WAFL.


Meanwhile a 17yo yr 12 potential draftee keeps racking them up in one of the strongest VFL sides while still at school.

AFL Draft: Top five draft chance adds to promising campaign with strong VFL outing, kicks stunning goal

The 17-year-old was one of several Suns Academy players to feature against Essendon’s reserves on Saturday.

www.zerohanger.com

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app