List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

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  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[Peptide Pig]

We desperately...DESPERATELY need a player who can go to contest to contest and get their hands on the pill. Far too many times this year am I seeing McGovern or Barrass at the top of our disposal list. McGovern had 25 today, next best was Kelly with 19. McKercher 37, Sheezel 30, hell even their ruckman had 30.

I wonder the last time a team got a win with only one player above 20 disposals. I guarantee that player would not have been their full back either. We really need some high production mids that can accumulate the footy and complement our attacking on-ballers

 

[bzparkes]

I wonder the last time a team got a win with only one player above 20 disposals. I guarantee that player would not have been their full back either. We really need some high production mids that can accumulate the footy and complement our attacking on-ballers

Also just shows how overrated possessions are if you dick around with them.

It's like early season Freo. Mids were getting huge numbers but most of the game was spent between the arcs, as they couldn't push the ball forward.

 

[noobermensch]

With the Talent League taking a break there are plenty of draft prospects making their VFL debuts this week giving us a chance to see how they step up to a higher level of competition. Playing off a half back flank, Travaglia looked comfortable and confident, displaying his usual intense competitive drive in contested situations as well as his run and carry to launch attacking moves.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Also just shows how overrated possessions are if you dick around with them.

It's like early season Freo. Mids were getting huge numbers but most of the game was spent between the arcs, as they couldn't push the ball forward.

Agreed, hate seeing teams play kick-to-kick across half back, much prefer playing direct. But the reality is we won in the last 20 seconds against the second worst team in the comp. The game we played likely wouldn’t have beaten any other side except Richmond.

 

[CountryLad]

Ashcroft with 26 disposals and a Goal at 3/4 time in VFL

Smith with 19 disposals at 3/4 time

Fos quiet with 9 touches but a really good goal.

 

[mitchzz]

Jaggaa, whilst somewhat vanilla, could be the accumulator we're missing

Wouldn't be unhapy with him for our pick

The Gaff, death by 1000 cuts replacement

 

[pantskyle]

I was high on FOS but I'm at avoid him now.

 

[mitchzz]

I was high on FOS but I'm at avoid him now.

He was a hard pass for me after his 6 disposal game at the Champs where he looked lost

 

[random260]

Holy **** Tigers are doing whatever they can to convince themselves to pick fos.

He has 9 posseion while jagga has 21 and trying to convince themselves fos is God

 

[random260]

Ugh nvm. Fos with a second goal. Tigers are creaming themselves

 

[CountryLad]

 

[CountryLad]

Ashcroft finishes with 35 disposals and a goal. Would have to be the clear number one now if he wasn’t already.

Jagga 21 disposals. Wasn’t his best game today but worked pretty hard.

FOS 11 disposals and kicked 2.1.
Goals were nice moments in an underwhelming performance otherwise.

 

[eaglevision]

Didn’t mind that from FOS. Spent a lot of time forward when the ball was up the other end for most of the first half and took his chances with some classy finishes. If we keep the pick I think he’s more likely than not to be an Eagle.

 

[ronpingwins]

Hawks making finals now, Barrass pick probably 12-15

 

[CountryLad]

Didn’t mind that from FOS. Spent a lot of time forward when the ball was up the other end for most of the first half and took his chances with some classy finishes. If we keep the pick I think he’s more likely than not to be an Eagle.

Yeah he’s got class, I’m not convinced that’s his best, I think there is still more there. However I think we need to go with some safer options if we retain pick 3 at this point.

He’s very good when given a bit of space but I’m a little bit concerned with how often he’s beaten this year in contested situations.

He’s going to be one of those picks where our recruiting staff are potentially dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

While I had Trew as a delist come October, I think that is less likely given the last month. He is very solid depth when played in his position

100% should stay. Was always being held back by simmo. Still only 22.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Wooshaaaa]

He was a hard pass for me after his 6 disposal game at the Champs where he looked lost

Bookmark this post mate and revisit it in 2 yrs. A lot on here will be eating humble pie. You're all gonna kick yourself if we pass him up.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[random260]

Hawks making finals now, Barrass pick probably 12-15

If Hawks move up ladder doesn't that mean they are more likely to trade for barrass?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Ashcroft finishes with 35 disposals and a goal. Would have to be the clear number one now if he wasn’t already.

Jagga 21 disposals. Wasn’t his best game today but worked pretty hard.

FOS 11 disposals and kicked 2.1.
Goals were nice moments in an underwhelming performance otherwise.

First game at that level coming off a very interrupted year, still carrying a couple of niggles. Calm the farm. If Jagar and Draper are gone at 3, FOS is next best.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

While I had Trew as a delist come October, I think that is less likely given the last month. He is very solid depth when played in his position

We would have to upgrade him to the senior list because under the new rules to get a 4th/5th year on the rookie list you have to play under 10 games .

Interesting as I would 100% keep him on the rookie list but senior spots will be at.a premium .

I would say trew's form has stamped cully's papers

 

[Elite Pete]

Ashcroft finishes with 35 disposals and a goal. Would have to be the clear number one now if he wasn’t already.

Jagga 21 disposals. Wasn’t his best game today but worked pretty hard.

FOS 11 disposals and kicked 2.1.
Goals were nice moments in an underwhelming performance otherwise.

Dev another nice stat game too.

Geez need these Hawks to go out first final now. Pick is really blowing out or Freo to win out (or Blues but we will put them to the sword next week)

 

[random260]

Dev another nice stat game too.

Geez need these Hawks to go out first final now. Pick is really blowing out or Freo to win out (or Blues but we will put them to the sword next week)

I just want a first rounder. If the pick is too high Hawks won't give it.

 

[Elite Pete]

If Hawks move up ladder doesn't that mean they are more likely to trade for barrass?

If TB is in, they will trade for him no matter where they finish

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah he’s got class, I’m not convinced that’s his best, I think there is still more there. However I think we need to go with some safer options if we retain pick 3 at this point.

He’s very good when given a bit of space but I’m a little bit concerned with how often he’s beaten this year in contested situations.

He’s going to be one of those picks where our recruiting staff are potentially dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t.

Good post. There’s strong arguments for selecting and not selecting him. We don’t have a great record with recruiting based on underage years/performance. Despite being IMO the most complete footballer of the draft class, using a top 3 pick on him as you rightly point out is risky. Can’t believe I’m even writing that after his champs a year ago. If he’d played the whole season and this is what he’s producing I’d take Draper but if the draft was tomorrow and he’s available I’d still take FOS.

Both of these kids have an outstanding attitude and we can’t really go wrong with one or the other. If they are both gone I’d take Smillie who by all accounts seems to also be a great kid from a good family.

1. FOS
2. Draper
3. Smillie

There’s a chance the decision is already made for us in the unlikely event of the Tigers not taking Jagga at #1.

 

[Elite Pete]

I just want a first rounder. If the pick is too high Hawks won't give it.

They were always giving it around where they were projected to finish. It was just if a 2nd came with it.

I really like Langford if Draper is gone. Anyone know if he is planning on playing VFL this year?