List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



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What pick would you be happy to use to draft a James Hird?

Toby Green?

Peter Matera?

None of them are inside players.

Would a top 10 pick be a waste on "outside" types those?
I didn't say outsiders were bad players (Hird and Greene aren't outsiders), nor did I say you can never find outside gems in the top 10. I just said the track record taking them in the top 10 is poor, so hold off. It's all about timing.
 
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Carlton really, really want FOS but they simply don't have the currency to get our pick 3.

If Draper is gone by 3 maybe we move back but that'll be on draft night.
 
Big issue with the TB trade now is Hawks got absolutely spanked by Carlton. The Hawks trade is one of the biggest losses in recent memory when it comes to a trade that was simply lost on the day it occured

Hawks are now basically trying to bully us into taking the remainders of that terrible trade... Clarke gotta make sure that doesnt happen

Its 2 F1st and Hawks just accepting the terrible trade they did in losing Pick 14
 
Baker is really hurting my head right now and i wish the club could address these questions

First, he's a fine player but he's the type of player a savvy club gets for no trade cost via FA. See for example Pies getting Perryman, Crows getting Cumming, Saints gettiing Battle. We target a bloke a year before his FA year and get stuck into publically saying he's worth a pick in the teens. Why?

Second, putting aside Baker, we are rebuilding but spending a first rounder on a 27yr old. Why? We have a complete dearth of young players and need as much young talent as possible. If we are not rebuilding why have we pushed Barass out. Trading in Baker and trading out Barass just makes no sense at all if Baker is costing us a first rounder. Are we rebuilding or not? We are not the case of some rebuilding clubs in the past like Blues and Demons who had a bevvy of top picks and could top up.

This is not how you do a rebuild. I feel like we are just meandering and not being savvy nor ruthless. Same issues that got us here.
 

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Baker is really hurting my head right now and i wish the club could address these questions

First, he's a fine player but he's the type of player a savvy club gets for no trade cost via FA. See for example Pies getting Perryman, Crows getting Cumming, Saints gettiing Battle. We target a bloke a year before his FA year and get stuck into publically saying he's worth a pick in the teens. Why?

Second, we are rebuilding but spending a first rounder on a 27yr old. Why? We have a complete dearth of young players and need as much young talent as possible. If we are not rebuilding why have we pushed Barass out. Trading in Baker and trading out Barass just makes no sense at all if Baker is costing us a first rounder. Are we rebuilding or not? I feel like we are just meandering and not being savvy nor ruthless. Same issues that got us here.
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but half of our list in under 21; we have a dearth of players Baker's age, especially leaders, which probably explains our interest.
 
Hey mate, I do enjoy your insights. From your sources, we into Draper or Jagga at pick 3?

Can't confirm entirely but I think we have Draper high. He and Jagga are very confident boys. We'd be lucky with either.
 
Lets keep 3

3 with Saints

Hawks give: F1 x 2
Hawks get: TB, F2 linked to Saints

Saints give: 8, F2
Saints get: F1 x 2 tied to Hawks and Carlton

WC give: TB
WC get: 8

Send Richmond 26 for Baker

Draft FOS and Travaglia

Off season of FOS, Travaglia, Baker, Graham, Champion and Owies
All the talk is the Saints trading their F1 into this year rather than the other way around. Saints and Hawks ain’t doing it
 
Baker is really hurting my head right now and i wish the club could address these questions

First, he's a fine player but he's the type of player a savvy club gets for no trade cost via FA. See for example Pies getting Perryman, Crows getting Cumming, Saints gettiing Battle. We target a bloke a year before his FA year and get stuck into publically saying he's worth a pick in the teens. Why?

Second, putting aside Baker, we are rebuilding but spending a first rounder on a 27yr old. Why? We have a complete dearth of young players and need as much young talent as possible. If we are not rebuilding why have we pushed Barass out. Trading in Baker and trading out Barass just makes no sense at all if Baker is costing us a first rounder. Are we rebuilding or not? We are not the case of some rebuilding clubs in the past like Blues and Demons who had a bevvy of top picks and could top up.

This is not how you do a rebuild. I feel like we are just meandering and not being savvy nor ruthless. Same issues that got us here.
In 4 years who are our senior players who might be best 22? Baker, Allen, Waterman, Duggan, maybe HEdwards? and thats about it, theyll all be 28-31. Rest will be 25 or under
Yes we might get some other players traded in or some free agents, but eve if we bump that mature age bracket to 6-7 players in 4 years time, thats still not a lot.

Need players at Bakers age bracket.
 

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