Autopsy Roast & Toast vs GWS, Rd 3 2019, & changes for Port

[Sir_Loin]

nice write up. I think that is pretty accurte.

Good games by Lambert and Prestia. That should be their minimum output from now.

Like you i'd definitely drop Butler and also drop Ellis. His panicked bumbbling has gone on for long enough. I'd bring in Moore ahead of CCJ.

I don't think it's all grim. the endeavour and pressure was way up this week.

We’ll have approximately half our salary cap out next week and probably not improving much for the next three weeks. It ain’t looking great when you add that with how bad our form is.

 

[tora tora tora]

how on gods earthdoes castanga stay in the side?

Butler was way worse. Has to be the first of fwds OUT. And Caddy IN adds much needed height. So INs would be Bolton, (mid) Caddy,(fwd) Grimes, Houli (if fit) Ross.
Martin(susp) Short(inj) Cotchin(inj) Ellis/Markov(omit) Butler(omit)

 

[Bolly]

Yeah absolutely. That was one of the harder things to take today. We have absolutely no mongrel in us at all. It's quite pathetic actually. You'd get more objection and fire from a local 2s side. I can't for the life of me work out why players weren't banging into Cameron all day either after he was clearly sore. Our coaches have absolutely no sense of the occasion. How that wasn't a directive after he's already bloody kicked 3 goals and was running around with one arm limp is beyond me...

We need Townsend and Caddy into the team ASAP. They are the only players in the side I trust to actually show some ticker. Maybe Nank as well.

I was having this exact chat to a mate of mine. We have no enforcers in this side. Who's going to fly the flag?
I liked that Tom got involved in some push and shove. Maybe we've been told to be cautious because of the new rules?
Caddy and Towner is exactly what we need because we are on the slide to old school tiges unless we show a bit of fight. Remember that quarter time melee against the dees in "17? Something akin to that to get the boys grinding their teeth.

 

[peternorth]

We are rebuilding
premierships aren't won in april/may/june/july/august
no one expected us to win

 

[evo]

We’ll have approximately half our salary cap out next week and probably not improving much for the next three weeks. It ain’t looking great when you add that with how bad our form is.

Cotch out is a massive blow. Hopefully it's not too bad.

 

[Tigerish09]

We are rebuilding
premierships aren't won in april/may/june/july/august
no one expected us to win

We’re flag favourites before season started and won 18 out of 22 last year, would have thought this was going to be a year of retribution. Only consoling thought so far is that Colonwood are 1 from 3 as well. For mine Eagles and Geelong a level above the rest.

 

[THE_GUN]

If we end up with 2-5 by round 7 and get back our main players apart from Rance and get games into the likes of Stack / Garth / Balta then im confident we still make finals.

 

[Ashman OG]

Get towna back in ffs, has got the grunt we need at the moment

 

[Shazza_]

We’re flag favourites before season started and won 18 out of 22 last year, would have thought this was going to be a year of retribution. Only consoling thought so far is that Colonwood are 1 from 3 as well. For mine Eagles and Geelong a level above the rest.

geelol cos they had 2 geelol fans change the rules for them

should we get KB and Wally Ally to change the rules for us next year ?

 

[Shazza_]

If we end up with 2-5 by round 7 and get back our main players apart from Rance and get games into the likes of Stack / Garth / Balta then im confident we still make finals.

whats the point of making finals in 6-8th ? cant win the flag

better to miss get a better pick and be back next year to win it all

 

[CASEYS9420]

This is my side to take on PA (Worst case scenario and Martin gets suspended) Players in bold are the only likely changes.

Broad, Astbury, Garthwaite
Vlastuin, Grimes, Houli
Edwards, Prestia, McIntosh
Higgins, Lynch, Rioli
Towner, Caddy, Baker
Nank, Ross, Lambert
Graham, Stack, Balta, Coleman-Jones

OUT: Martin (Sup), Cotchin (Inj), Short (Inj), Markov, B.Ellis, Butler, George
IN: Caddy, Grimes, Houli, Ross, Townsend, Baker, CCJ

 

[THE_GUN]

whats the point of making finals in 6-8th ? cant win the flag

better to miss get a better pick and be back next year to win it all

Who won the flag in 2016 ?

 

[Shazza_]

Who won the flag in 2016 ?

ha ha ha ha

yeah with being able to win interstate (which we cant do) and umpires assistance every week (especially in the grand final)

 

[THE_GUN]

OUT: Martin (Sup), Cotchin (Inj), Short (Inj), Markov, B.Ellis, Butler, George
IN: Caddy, Grimes, Houli, Ross, Townsend, Baker, CCJ

OUT: Martin (Sup), Cotchin (Inj), Short (Inj), Markov, B.Ellis, Butler, George
IN: Caddy, Grimes, Houli, Ross, Baker , Bolton , Naish

 

[tigerisland]

 

[THE_GUN]

ha ha ha ha

yeah with being able to win interstate (which we cant do) and umpires assistance every week (especially in the grand final)

Doggies couldnt win interstate either prior to the 2016 finals series.

With the week off for all clubs prior to finals now its not as impossible as it used to be just means you need to win 4 in a row

 

[cairo tiger]

Butler was way worse. Has to be the first of fwds OUT. And Caddy IN adds much needed height. So INs would be Bolton, (mid) Caddy,(fwd) Grimes, Houli (if fit) Ross.
Martin(susp) Short(inj) Cotchin(inj) Ellis/Markov(omit) Butler(omit)

Butler shocking didn’t want it

 

[Morro]

Season is over. Meh. We had a blessed run

Outs

Cotch
Dusty
Short
Markov
Bellis


Ins

Ross
Bolton
Moore
Grimes
Caddy

 

[Shazza_]

disappointed that #lolbrowne has not stalked Cotch outside the scanning place this morning to update us on the injury

 

[Shazza_]

Doggies couldnt win interstate either prior to the 2016 finals series.

With the week off for all clubs prior to finals now its not as impossible as it used to be just means you need to win 4 in a row

home town umpiring / Richmond being hated by the umps = we wont win interstate especially in finals

if we scrape into the 8 we need vic games to win 4 in a row . maybe rance will come back too

 

[tony__montana]

Watch Hardwicks press conference to get a gauge on who will (or wont) be dropped.

Pretty much said he was very happy with the endeavour and effort just execution wasnt there and in the end thats what killed us. Obviously referring to fumbles and bad kicks which cost us turnover goals looking at Castagna, Graham, Butler, Prestia, Ellis and Markov on multiple occasions. His next comment is key "we control that and will get better through training and building confidence". So for those who want/expect them to be dropped will be disappointed. Doubt he'll drop any of them for form or errors, will only be about team balance with whose coming in and whose out(cotch, dusty? out, Grimes, Caddy Houli? in).

Forget about wholesale changes, not going to happen

 

[theflea]

I know we're struggling so no point having a melt but what I can't forgive is Dimma's stubbornness and refusal to tag players. I mean, Graham and Ellis are absolute workhorses with serious limitations with the ball yet we don't use them to tag opponents when they get 40+ touches?

Last week we see WCE tag Coniglio and another player (can't remember who) and they totally shut down GWS.... But we are above that? We'd rather let them rack em up and get slaughtered?

Staggering.

I think its because they actually cant do well.

 

[CASEYS9420]

OUT: Martin (Sup), Cotchin (Inj), Short (Inj), Markov, B.Ellis, Butler, George
IN: Caddy, Grimes, Houli, Ross, Baker , Bolton , Naish

Too many smalls going up against PA

 

[theflea]

I reckon you can say off the 25 or so players we have used in three rounds only 3 of those have a good seasons:
- Edwards
- Nankervis
- McIntosh

Lynch?

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

I think there is some sort of stat where if a team makes 5 or more changes it only has a 5% chance of winning or something but I just can’t see how we don’t make at least that many this week

Isn't that logical? You don't make 5 changes if you're travelling well