Game Day Round 5: Collingwood v St Kilda, Sunday 16 April, 4.50pm, AO

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The other bit of the discussion was around Markovs ball use and defensive ability, compounded by our ruck situation where we will likely give up a lot of territory. There's merit in that argument.

My view is that we're replacing WHEs role in the side with the next best runner we have.

I’m willing to give Markov time, he was in the 23 last week, even if just as the sub.

Not sure why people are suggesting Ruscoe over Markov. Not much between them in terms of VFL form imho.
 

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Why? You’re replacing the best user by foot out of defence we have with one of the worst. If you’re looking for the same transition out of defence, being someone who will take, and is able to hit the difficult options by foot that will open up the ground I’d argue Ruscoe is a far superior option.

Huge call. Equally capable of good or poor play, prone to more than his share of brain fades and turnovers. What little I’ve seen of Markov since he’s arrived shows little difference between them other than a few cm’s.
 
I’m willing to give Markov time, he was in the 23 last week, even if just as the sub.

Not sure why people are suggesting Ruscoe over Markov. Not much between them in terms of VFL form imho.
I'd go Ruscoe for his disposal and added height. But my opinion is unpopular with the Markov fans who have emerged from the closet.
 
I'd go Ruscoe for his disposal and added height. But my opinion is unpopular with the Markov fans who have emerged from the closet.
TGG, I don’t think anyone on here doesn’t share your concerns regarding markov, and especially his disposal. It’s a concern for mine too. But the new coaches have added him, and brought him in. They’ve done well so far, our off season trades/draft was excellent. let’s just see how it goes. Johnny noble has grown on us, perhaps markov can. Worst case he’s a bust, and it’s nothing but a rookie spot
 
I think you're forgetting the fact that McRae took a sledge hammer to Dean's foot to create a list space for the favourite that he'd previously passed over.
I don't know why we didn't just fillet his toes and leave them flopping about like attached mussels. Seemed an effective way to terminate a career even if the total degenerative process took several years.
 
TGG, I don’t think anyone on here doesn’t share your concerns regarding markov, and especially his disposal. It’s a concern for mine too. But the new coaches have added him, and brought him in. They’ve done well so far, our off season trades/draft was excellent. let’s just see how it goes. Johnny noble has grown on us, perhaps markov can. Worst case he’s a bust, and it’s nothing but a rookie spot
When he takes the field, I wish him well as I would any Collingwood player.
 
I don't know why we didn't just fillet his toes and leave them flopping about like attached mussels. Seemed an effective way to terminate a career even if the total degenerative process took several years.
I think that's stage two in the creating space for favourites plan.
 
I think most people have got it wrong re Markov v Ruscoe it’s not one or the other as I believe Ryan is better than both of them and would have debuted if he didn’t get injured this week. He came off training early and wasn’t selected in the VFL. Having said that he’s a better version of both Markov and Ruscoe.
 
At what moment did Ruscoe suddenly become James Clement?

At the same time Dean become the next Wakelin in waiting?

I wouldn't have had a problem with Ruscoe getting selected this week ahead of Markov but whether it's Markov over Ruscoe or Ruscoe ahead of Markov if our game against St Kilda is decided by this one selection decision then we have bigger problems to worry about.
 

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At what moment did Ruscoe suddenly become James Clement?

At the same time Dean become the next Wakelin in waiting?

I wouldn't have had a problem with Ruscoe getting selected this week ahead of Markov but whether it's Markov over Ruscoe or Ruscoe ahead of Markov if our game against St Kilda is decided by this one selection decision then we have bigger problems to worry about.
Ruscoe may be many things, but James Clement he is not. At best he is a decent back up defender with good kicking skills. I have always had a soft spot for him since the first game phone call to mum when she responded, 'What happened to the rest of the team? Did they all fall over!' or words to that effect. She became my favourite AFL mum.
 
Hopefully Ginni makes a similar 2023 return tomorrow to his spirit brother Cody Weightman tonight
 
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