Autopsy Round 9 = Collingwood 51-99 Western Bulldogs

[McOrist]

Let St Kilda take De Goey. He doesn't do enough. If we can get a couple of decent draft picks for him, we should take them. We'll finish in the bottom 5 this year, so this could be the draft that sets us up for the future.

 

[domus]

One thing I look at is tackles and disposals, they had 100 more disposals and one more tackle.

That’s not good.

I try to look at positives especially this year. Henry was in the right place a lot, just didn’t kick the goal. They can work on that.

Didn't kick five goals he should have kicked

 

[domus]

Put Cox at full back.

So long as we get him back on the ground, I'll be satisfied.

 

[barrackers]

Missed Ginnivan’s confidence in front of goal. Felt we just needed one to gain some inside 50 composure. Unfortunately it came too late.

Macrae and Poulter looked like they’d played VFL for two months. That’s on the selection panel. Poulter was better late I’d give them another run.

Tyler Brown

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Tyler Brown

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

3star

CL

0.6

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.6

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

7.0

5star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

’s best senior game?

 

[Mollythedolly]

I hated what I saw from Henry. That missed kick to stationary Degoey in the first quarter had C Brown Written all over it.

I know he’ll come good but was a momentum killer tonight.

Yeah. Had an off night. Could potentially have had 5-6 goals for the night. If we'd gone into 1/4 time a lot more even I reckon its a different game. Cest la vie.

 

[adge0001]

This game was a reality check, It shows what the new coaching group and administration have inherited if they did do something this year (they won’t ) they would be able to write and open cheque for themselves (Geez we pay the guy who won the medal tonight, tells you a lot about state of club in 2020/2021)



Our problem is where are we at we are not young, so players like Roughead (31), Jamie Elliot (30) next year), WHE(28), Sidebottom(31), Adams(28) and even Howe (31) do we keep in my opinion, only if we think we can win a flag in next 2 yrs which we can’t. It seems like we are even a step back from Hawthorn as they are genuinely younger team. And Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

lots of natural talent is he a key Defender? Seems to me we wasted or mismanaged from 2012 to 2021 (2018 being the only standout) and now unless the current coaching or admin group work a miracle this year it is going to be a tough few years. I for one back the new guys for a few years to see what they can do. If we were willing to give the last group(a club legend and his mates) 8-10 and end up in a mess these guys deserve a few years.



Henry shows something, Ginnivan, Beau Mccreary all seem like they might be ok but have to find more, but this is first year of rebuild of and old side.

Need to find that balance of young and old though. Brad Scott gutted north and they’ve been floundering for years…. I don’t know if I want to do that big a stint at the bottom.


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[Looney]

How will we structure up in defense next week with Kelly still out for a few weeks and no height left to draw upon?

Throw Begg in defence or bring back Wilson.

 

[jmac70]

So long as we get him back on the ground, I'll be satisfied.

Does he need to touch the ball for you to remain satisfied?

 

[ksardog]

How will we structure up in defense next week with Kelly still out for a few weeks and no height left to draw upon?

put Mihocek back, go mainly small in the forward line, not sure if Elliott available
drop Begg, bring in Cox to play ruck, Cameron to the forward line
deGoey forward, N Daicos centre, Sidebottom in the middle, Adams to half back

just something different

 

[cwoodgal]

Can't see us winning too many more games this year but hope I'm wrong.

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[jmac70]

We only have our first this year, no second rounders, and then picks in the 40’s… yikes

Well, we could do some trades.

 

[parano1a]

Playing a home game at Etihad against the Bulldogs. Seriously WTF?!?

This is nothing new. Happens almost every year (home game v WB/NM/StK at Marvel) due to contractual requirements.

 

[lenny20]

It is the 1997 game plan that worked for 6 weeks until it was worked out and then there was nothing.

All out attack at any cost is just infantile and stupid.

The coaching panel from hell.

We attacked at all costs for about five minutes in the last quarter and actually looked half decent.

We chipped it around slowly and kept spare men behind the ball for 95% of the game and looked like flaming garbage.

I think you have a bit of an agenda against this coaching group.

 

[Maggie Greg]

This is nothing new. Happens almost every year (home game v WB/NM/StK at Marvel) due to contractual requirements.

Been happening every year since 2000.

 

[Stripes B and W]

How will we structure up in defense next week with Kelly still out for a few weeks and no height left to draw upon?

Maybe debut McMahon? The likely change is that Ruscoe comes in a plays a third tall role, hope he does well tomorrow.
From memory the Freo side has a couple of smaller quicker type plus Walters, hope we try something.

 

[Maggie Greg]

We attacked at all costs for about five minutes in the last quarter and actually looked half decent.

We chipped it around slowly and kept spare men behind the ball for 95% of the game and looked like flaming garbage.

I think you have a bit of an agenda against this coaching group.

But that is why it is a stupid game plan.

 

[adge0001]

We attacked at all costs for about five minutes in the last quarter and actually looked half decent.

We chipped it around slowly and kept spare men behind the ball for 95% of the game and looked like flaming garbage.

I think you have a bit of an agenda against this coaching group.

Tough balance to find. The doggies ate us up early when we moved the ball fast.


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[domus]

Missed Ginnivan’s confidence in front of goal. Felt we just needed one to gain some inside 50 composure. Unfortunately it came too late.

Macrae and Poulter looked like they’d played VFL for two months. That’s on the selection panel. Poulter was better late I’d give them another run.

Tyler Brown’s best senior game?

That passage late in the game when he ran too far was truly staggering given he had no pressure coming from behind

 

[domus]

put Mihocek back, go mainly small in the forward line, not sure if Elliott available
drop Begg, bring in Cox to play ruck, Cameron to the forward line
deGoey forward, N Daicos centre, Sidebottom in the middle, Adams to half back

just something different

Couldn't be any worse than tonight.

 

[adge0001]

That passage late in the game when he ran too far was truly staggering given he had no pressure coming from behind

Omg that was painful. I was yelling at the tv for him to bounce it. We all saw it coming from a mile away.


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[Vicky Park]

Really angry tonight - at the footy gods who keep hitting us with injuries and illness, at Treloar for playing well against us, for our ‘champions’ who keep dishing up shitty games, at the trams that were too packed to get on after the game, at the next three or four games for being impossible to win.

I’m not angry at Lippa, in fact I’ve come around and am very pleased we have him. I’m also not angry at Johnny Noble or N Daicos.

But I’m just really flipping angry tonight.

 

[Mollythedolly]

We need to retire players like Cox and Sidebottom, and use the cash to target some free agents who can actually improve the list.

You think Cox and Sidey are taking up a lot of TPP?

 

[76woodenspooners]

This is nothing new. Happens almost every year (home game v WB/NM/StK at Marvel) due to contractual requirements.

I understand (but don’t agree with) contractual requirements to play 2 home games there a year …

… but does it need to be against Marvel tenants?

 

[barrackers]

That passage late in the game when he ran too far was truly staggering given he had no pressure coming from behind

Seemed his only focus was the goals.

 

[lenny20]

Tough balance to find. The doggies ate us up early when we moved the ball fast.


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True, but the doggies just destroyed our mids at the contest early, I'm not sure any game plan could have saved us. We lost every centre clearance, had fewer than half the contested possessions in Q1, and refused to lay a tackle.

It's what we were doing (or more accurately, failing to do) when we didn't have the ball that was killing us. Painful to watch.