MRP / Trib. 2024 MRP Lotto thread II

[Devington]

Butters actually intentionally strikes 3 players and gets 3 fines. You can argue Heeney's was not intentional yet gets done for 1 week.

It's pretty funny tbh.

The AFL rules, as always, are cooked.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I’d like to see him tag that traitor Blakey

Na wilphil has to go to warner

 

[giantroo]

Reasons:

The swing of Heeney's arm was forceful, and it was more than a swatting motion. Having looked carefully at the vision, we find that it falls comfortably within the language of clause 4.3(b), the guidelines, in that he was intending to forcefully push or fend off Webster to gain separation for the purpose of contesting the ball.

The guidelines distinguish between push and fend in a way that makes clear that a fend means something different to or at least more than a push, bearing in mind the obvious purpose of the rule to reduce the incidence of blows such as this would be illogical to capture pushes, but not capture forceful swings of the arm.

Clause 4.3(b) states that if the effect of such an action is that the reportable offense of striking is committed, the strike will usually be graded as intentional. We find that this was the effect. It was a forceful blow to Webster's face.

This part of clause 4.3 is only engaged if a player is not intending to strike, only intending to push or fend.

As a player whose conduct is captured by this provision will always be in a position of saying they did not actually intend to strike their opponent.

The provision makes clear it will usually be so graded. We do not find that there is anything about the circumstances of this offence that would reasonably characterize it as other than usual, given the natural language of the provision and the evident purpose of the provision.

As we have said, Heeney's swing of the arm was a forceful blow, and he intended that blow to make contact with Webster, albeit not to his face. We are not satisfied that he intended only to make contact with Webster's hands.

Then a submission that the act attracts the operation of regulation 19.6(a) two, in that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances which would make it inappropriate to apply the consequences of appendix one to the classification that's been determined by the tribunal for an offence.

We do not find that the circumstances of this strike that has been graded as intentional render it appropriate to apply the appendix A classification.

Mr Heeney has a good record, and his immediate and genuine concern for the consequence of his strike were apparent.

This was an intentional strike resulting in injury, and accordingly, we consider a one-match sanction is appropriate.

 

[nelroo]

I’m gobsmacked TBH. 1. Because it’s the AFL love child Sydney and 2. The AFL don’t like * winning the thing on Brownlow night.

 

[JGreezy]

I reckon it deserved a week. But I also don't think it was intentional high contact.

 

[Ashley B]

I don’t believe it ,knock me down with a feather . He misses against us and can’t win the Brownlow.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It's pretty funny tbh.

The AFL rules, as always, are cooked.

All about the head so the perception is they’re doing everything to lessen concussions.

It’s all about future court proceedings and money.

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

As a lawyer, I would have made the case that webster was bending over so impact was low, and because the person who was struck was jimmy Webster

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Jimmy Webster

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

, nobody could care less.

Low and careless.

Easiest job in the world.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

I am disgusted by this decision. What has this league become?

 

[the big lebowski]

I hope he ends up with the most votes now

 

[RossHenshaw]

I reckon it deserved a week. But I also don't think it was intentional high contact.

 

[Zebrah]

Really harsh call I reckon. Looked totally accidental. Not a dirty player.

 

[Ashley B]

Funny thing is imo I thought it was an accident or not intentional, very odd. What do they have in store for us on the weekend?

 

[Liam Boy]

Doesn't really matter if it was accidental, he swung his arm hard enough to draw blood and if you do it at that height you know you might catch a guy in the face and hurt him.

But I don't really think it was accidental. I've seen the things Isaac Heeney

5

Isaac Heeney

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.8

3star

can do on a footy field, his awareness, his quick decision making. The idea that he's just some big clumsy buffoon who couldn't possibly have intended to slam a guy in the nose is a bit ridiculous.

 

[Ashley B]

Really harsh call I reckon. Looked totally accidental. Not a dirty player.

I agree but stuff him anyway lol

 

[The Nostradamus]

Funny thing is imo I thought it was an accident or not intentional, very odd. What do they have in store for us on the weekend?

Tbh I thought that about gaff on brayshaw

Trying to get him in the chest but got head

 

[RossHenshaw]

 

[Ashley B]

Tbh I thought that about gaff on brayshaw

Now that definitely was accidental lol

 

[RossHenshaw]

Really harsh call I reckon. Looked totally accidental. Not a dirty player.

 

[Ashley B]

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One would think the AFL are trying to help us win like they do with some of their favourite teams. The cynic in me thinks what’s their angle ?

 

[RossHenshaw]

I’m gobsmacked TBH. 1. Because it’s the AFL love child Sydney and 2. The AFL don’t like * winning the thing on Brownlow night.

It’s all part of the plan of getting the AFL’s number one love child Dick Daicos his first Brownlow

 

[Ashley B]

It’s all part of the plan of getting the AFL’s number one love child Dick Daicos his first Brownlow

Aaaah I see

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

Reasons:

Rankine forcefully bumped Brandon Starcevich a considerable distance from where the ball was trapped in a stoppage.

Both players were running in the same direction, and Starcevich was not expecting forceful contact. He had no reason to expect that he would be bumped.

The issue is whether Rankine intended to commit the reportable offence of rough conduct. In our opinion, it is clear that Rankine intended to engage in conduct which was unreasonable in the circumstances.

It was not reasonable to stop and forcefully bump Starcevich when Rankine must have known Starcevich was not expecting to be bumped.

Play had stopped, and although the bump was almost simultaneous with the umpire's whistle, the Crows fairly accepted that neither player could reasonably have expected that the ball was about to come their way.

Rankine moved low and bumped in an upward motion. Starcevich was running at the time, he didn't expect the bump and did not have the opportunity to protect himself.

Rankine must have known all of these matters, and it follows He intended to engage in conduct that was unreasonable in the circumstances. We were satisfied that this was intentional, rough conduct

 

[hsquid]

UPHELD!

Mildly elated