Australia vs India First Test - Adelaide Oval - Dec 9 - Dec 13

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Maybe, but if we had a bigger lead from the first innings, wouldn't have batted as long...

Doesn't matter too much now considering we won and it more importantly wasn't a draw

Personally would rather it have been a draw but I see your point lol.
 

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A draw wouldn't have been good in my opinion. The game deserved a result. A draw just kinda cheapens it.

I don't get that thinking, a draw is a result. It isn't as exciting granted, but it is a result.
 
I don't get that thinking, a draw is a result. It isn't as exciting granted, but it is a result.
I get that it is a result but it's unsatisfying. Everyone would've liked to have seen either Lyon spinning out India or Kohli batting India to victory. There is more satisfaction there. Beats not getting a result due to rain.
 
I get that it is a result but it's unsatisfying. Everyone would've liked to have seen either Lyon spinning out India or Kohli batting India to victory. There is more satisfaction there. Beats not getting a result due to rain.

Don't mind it if a team is 8 down. Takes some skill batting out the last day to be fair, regardless of conditions
 
As an art yes it does take some serious kill and talent to do but it's also boring to watch. Playing for a win I think is the best thing for sport in general.

Don't mind it, scoring rates are not that important to me especially on the last day. Great teams have the ability to go for the win, yes...BUT to defend and escape with a draw. Both are positive results.
 
Found this haha

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Nope. Averages over 64 outside of India.

All but 12 of his 107 test wickets are in India. Relies on the assistance he gets from Indian pitches.
looking at his stats, I'd argue he has been under utilised overseas. How you can make a statement based on 6 overseas tests, which included Clarke's 300, and 200 (along with Hussey and Ponting's scores). How is he going to improve that if he doesn't get the chance? Its like saying S. Marsh is never going to make it because he currently averages under 30 in test cricket.

plus he averages 38 with the bat at no. 8.
I didn't see enough from Karn Sharma to suggest that Ravi Ashwin couldn't have done just as good in this test with the ball...India look way more threatening with the batting when he plays.
 
Well he made a very easy catch look very hard...most good fielders would get there!
Yes it was a simple catch, yes he dropped it...

but as my father always keeps telling me when I get upset over team mates dropping catches, no one means to drop them.

He usually has safe hands, I'd put that one down as an aberration.
 

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looking at his stats, I'd argue he has been under utilised overseas. How you can make a statement based on 6 overseas tests, which included Clarke's 300, and 200 (along with Hussey and Ponting's scores). How is he going to improve that if he doesn't get the chance? Its like saying S. Marsh is never going to make it because he currently averages under 30 in test cricket.

plus he averages 38 with the bat at no. 8.
I didn't see enough from Karn Sharma to suggest that Ravi Ashwin couldn't have done just as good in this test with the ball...India look way more threatening with the batting when he plays.
Maybe that's all true. He probably is still better than other options available to India.

On reflection I didn't really word it too well. From watching him I don't think he'll be overly threatening in our conditions.

As for S.Marsh he averages 32 in tests and 36 in FC cricket for a reason, he nothing more than an honest trier....
 
Maybe that's all true. He probably is still better than other options available to India.

On reflection I didn't really word it too well. From watching him I don't think he'll be overly threatening in our conditions.

As for S.Marsh he averages 32 in tests and 36 in FC cricket for a reason, he nothing more than an honest trier....
tbh, I'm not sure he would either, but all spinners have that same issue - even Lyon...think he deserves the chance. Most countries would kill for an All rounder with his averages.
 
For the extra 5 runs an innings wade would get with the bat, he'd cost us many times more with his shit keeping compared to hartley.
and this exactly illustrates my point....

1) A lot on here have it ingrained in their minds that he's awful as a keeper. His keeping has improved in the last 12 months. Evidenced by his appearance in the ODI side within 3 months of the WC despite ordinary batting form in the Matador cup. If his keeping was so awful combined with the lack of runs he would have been overlooked. After all he's got to be trusted to wk sufficiently as not to cost us a wc match.

2) Wade's Test average is higher than Hartley's FC average, so the difference would be more than 5...

In the end there's not much point arguing given Haddin for whatever reason looks unlikely to be unseated for the near future.
 
5, 7, 9 runs whatever. it doesn't matter. wade behind the stumps cost us **** knows how many runs in his 12 tests. even if he averaged 50 we still would have come out behind compared to a good keeper with a batting average of 30. and his keeping has not improved enough.

hads is in there for the time being but don't think it'll be a whole lot longer. maybe till the end of the ashes.

overlooking missed simple stumpings for the sake a few extra runs has killed teams - including us - over the years.
 
I think Wade's keeping issues are growing in the memory of the public the longer they don't see him. Not saying he was or is a great keeper, but there's a lot of mythologising about how bad he was.

Marsh was the obvious replacement for Clarke, has been the best performing of the middle order candidates this year. Cowan for Rogers would have been an interesting call, but I think we'd need to wait another test or two before making such a conclusive decision.
 
Surely you can't carry both Sids and an underdone Harris into the next test.

Our bowling attack looked incompetent and if it wasn't for Lyon we'd have not even come close.

Yes I realise the pitch played a part in this, but the best bowlers find ways to get breakthroughs on even the toughest of pitches.

FYI, definitely not saying we should drop Ryano, he just needs to get more cricket into him. Sids should be the one to go.
 
I won't be surprised or unhappy if Siddle is dropped because he is not in his best form at the moment. Has played very well for us in the past though and will hopefully do so again. No need to get nasty about him just because he's a bit off pace at the moment.

There won't be too many changes, Marsh for Clarke and Hazelwood for Siddle will be it I think.
 
I won't be surprised or unhappy if Siddle is dropped because he is not in his best form at the moment. Has played very well for us in the past though and will hopefully do so again. No need to get nasty about him just because he's a bit off pace at the moment.

There won't be too many changes, Marsh for Clarke and Hazelwood for Siddle will be it I think.

He has lost his pace, which was one of his major weapons. Never been a big swinger of the ball, so as soon as his pace has declined, so too have his returns.

Reminds me of how Jason Gillespie fell away at the end of his career.
 
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