List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[Spooky17]

Why wouldnt Tholstrup leave?

Apart from Melbourne are ok and we are rebuilding.

I think he was a Dees fan growing up.

 

[eaglevision]

Why wouldnt Tholstrup leave?

Apart from Melbourne are ok and we are rebuilding.

He’s very settled and happy there.

 

[1Bally1]

I hope the Burgeil news is true, I rate him, just hasn’t had the best run with injuries.

Potential to be the pacy rebounding defender with elite kicking that we lack.

From this wafl game he has 2 goals give him that contract

 

[Obeanie1]

He’s very settled and happy there.

So was JK before he got caught up in the Judd trade.

Do you know the family?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Hamish Davis 40 touches in the colts. Looming as a massive riser

Just what we need. A hard running pig.

 

[eaglevision]

So was JK before he got caught up in the Judd trade.

Do you know the family?

Yes.

 

[Keys]

I believe Burgiel has been extended and the source is an immediate family member.

A Hawthorn supporter in the WAFL thread was also saying Burgiel had signed a contract after hearing it mentioned at some underage basketball tournament

Was hesitant to take too much notice of it as it didn’t sound particularly reliable

Maybe it was on the money

 

[Spooky17]

Out of the remaining uncontracted players, I do hope we keep Culley next year. Had a great season at WAFL level after a major injury. Hope he gets some senior games in the next few weeks.

 

[stallon]

With Archer coming along nicely, does that just tick another box for trading out Waterman?

We will lose Archer when he asks for a trade home at the end of next year if he doesnt see a world where he can push into the main side, and with Allen, Waterman and JWilliams there is some competition.

We still have Darling to play as the 3rd tall next year if we lose Waterman before Archer is ready.

Is it better to trade out Waterman for a fortune or to trade out Archer a year later for a 2nd round pick?

Always a risk that Archer asks to go home anyway, and we get left with no Waterman or Archer, but thats for the club to decide

 

[eaglevision]

A Hawthorn supporter in the WAFL thread was also saying Burgiel had signed a contract after hearing it mentioned at some underage basketball tournament

Was hesitant to take too much notice of it as it didn’t sound particularly reliable

Maybe it was on the money

Yep, wouldn’t be betting my house on it just yet but I believe it’s been done.

 

[eaglevision]

With Archer coming along nicely, does that just tick another box for trading out Waterman?

We will lose Archer when he asks for a trade home at the end of next year if he doesnt see a world where he can push into the main side, and with Allen, Waterman and JWilliams there is some competition.

We still have Darling to play as the 3rd tall next year if we lose Waterman before Archer is ready.

Is it better to trade out Waterman for a fortune or to trade out Archer a year later for a 2nd round pick?

Always a risk that Archer asks to go home anyway, and we get left with no Waterman or Archer, but thats for the club to decide

If a club offers Waterman big $$$ for next year and top 5 pick (or equivalent) it’s certainly an area of the ground we can cover.

 

[random260]

With Archer coming along nicely, does that just tick another box for trading out Waterman?

We will lose Archer when he asks for a trade home at the end of next year if he doesnt see a world where he can push into the main side, and with Allen, Waterman and JWilliams there is some competition.

We still have Darling to play as the 3rd tall next year if we lose Waterman before Archer is ready.

Is it better to trade out Waterman for a fortune or to trade out Archer a year later for a 2nd round pick?

Always a risk that Archer asks to go home anyway, and we get left with no Waterman or Archer, but thats for the club to decide

Oscar is worth more in trade value. He will net us a top 3 pick. Waterman will not

I prefer to trade him. We will not lose much in terms of performance. Waterman can make up the ground

Spare me the oh but he is the captain talk. We need a top 5 at worst pick for one of them and most likely is Oscar Allen

 

[stallon]

Oscar is worth more in trade value. He will net us a top 3 pick. Waterman will not

I prefer to trade him. We will not lose much in terms of performance. Waterman can make up the ground

Spare me the oh but he is the captain talk. We need a top 5 at worst pick for one of them and most likely is Oscar Allen

Id rather have Allen leading a young forward line than Waterman.
Allen would get more in a trade, but thats because hes a better player lol, and hes a year younger.

We dont need a top 5 pick necessarily, we just need good picks, the pick we receive will depend on the club thats doing the trading, cant see either of Allen or Waterman getting us a top 5 pick this year tbh. The clubs with top 5 picks wont be in the market

 

[kerrazy]

Oscar is worth more in trade value. He will net us a top 3 pick. Waterman will not

I prefer to trade him. We will not lose much in terms of performance. Waterman can make up the ground

Spare me the oh but he is the captain talk. We need a top 5 at worst pick for one of them and most likely is Oscar Allen

Allen who is from WA, loyal and a captain of the team. Tell me exactly how you see him either requesting a trade or us telling him to go?

 

[Matera92]

I swear this thread is the most unhinged place on the board.

Thank Christ most of you won't ever get near a list management job in any capacity let alone an AFL team.

 

[eaglevision]

Sid Draper 14K 13H 9T and 9 clearances in the league today. Got a feeling he’ll stack up better than Jagga as a mid at AFL level.

 

[Footfalcon]

I'd hate to trade waterman. He's of the age bracket that we are lacking. He bleeds for us. And easily the hardest worker in the group.

 

[random260]

Sid Draper 14K 13H 9T and 9 clearances in the league today. Got a feeling he’ll stack up better than Jagga as a mid at AFL level.

Holy **** 27 possesion against men. That comes after his 23 possession game against men

The race is over. Anyone that puts Sid draper below Smillie or Jagga are clowns.

Undisputed number 2 mid behind FOS. Straight up. Over.

Actually I go as far as saying FOS is neck and neck with Draper with pick 1 IMO.

 

[Elite Pete]

Holy **** 27 possesion against men. That comes after his 23 possession game against men

The race is over. Anyone that puts Sid draper below Smillie or Jagga are clowns.

Undisputed number 2 mid behind FOS. Straight up. Over.

Actually I go as far as saying FOS is neck and neck with Draper with pick 1 IMO.

For our team I agree. If the Crows trade there pick for petty and a later pick and we get FOS and Sid. That could get me on the Waterman trade wagon

 

[kobe0824]

Keep Allen, keep Waterman, keep AReid (who looked great today in the WAFL), trade out Barrass for first round pick this year. Draft KPD with early second round pick.

Push Allen to the backline if Waterman keeps performing at high level and we can’t fit them all forward.

 

[eaglevision]

Holy **** 27 possesion against men. That comes after his 23 possession game against men

The race is over. Anyone that puts Sid draper below Smillie or Jagga are clowns.

Undisputed number 2 mid behind FOS. Straight up. Over.

Actually I go as far as saying FOS is neck and neck with Draper with pick 1 IMO.

If I told you that 19 of them were contested you might have enough ammo to go round 2 with yourself.

 

[eaglevision]

For our team I agree. If the Crows trade there pick for petty and a later pick and we get FOS and Sid. That could get me on the Waterman trade wagon

The chance of the Crows trading pick 4 for Petty is precisely zero. Maybe less.

 

[Elite Pete]

The chance of the Crows trading pick 4 for Petty is precisely zero. Maybe less.

Agreed they will wait until he is an FA now inn 2025 and especially if the draft intel is Sid will fall to them at 4.

Crows - Petty
Eagles - Curtin (very good game today as a mid)
Dees - Waterman

With picks going out to balance it out. Unlikely so keep the snake

 

[WCE_Phill]

Wonder if the crows would be silly or desperate enough to come after pick 2

Pick 6 and Curtin for 2?

 

[Elite Pete]

Wonder if the crows would be silly or desperate enough to come after pick 2

Pick 6 and Curtin for 2?

Maybe if they jump the Saints and if the Saints get band 1 for Battle