List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[Hoskin300]

As unscientific as it is, reading the comments on the board of the player’s existing club is a better way of getting an idea of their role and importance than the views of the receiving club’s supporters.

Overall they seem pretty happy that he’s leaving. Not Rotham leaving via FA happy, but happy all the same.

Yeah this is always the biggest red flag for me. At a worse team as well :/.

 

[Farang83150]

Gonna suck loosing Barrass, needs to happen though, short term pain long term gain etc...
Hope we don't split, just take draper.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

As unscientific as it is, reading the comments on the board of the player’s existing club is a better way of getting an idea of their role and importance than the views of the receiving club’s supporters.

Overall they seem pretty happy that he’s leaving. Not Rotham leaving via FA happy, but happy all the same.

Have you visited some of the other boards on this site?

 

[noobermensch]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

 

[Elite Pete]

Any chance a desperate Sydney make another Tom Barass attempt? They 100% need another tall defender.

In this draft the whole pick 19,20 and then say Sheldrick looks good to me

Yeah doubt TB agrees now his sister has moved

 

[Elite Pete]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

We’ve got one here.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Duggan has played his best games this year as an inside mid. His kicking is way too trash nowadays to be a half back flanker. Just let him play the role when we need it.

Also Yeo should be able to play that role. His attributes are actually best suited to that role.

We have far far greater needs than a defensive mid.

No we don't. Defensive mid is exactly what we need. Graham and even baker will provide much needed flexibility in our midfield mix, protecting what will likely be 4/5 kids under 20.

Yeo can help down back if we're under the pump or when travaglia needs rest.
Reid can rest down forward and kick a couple.
Hall, hewett, Draper, Hotton can be integrated into the mid rotations.
Duggan can play inside nugget

It also negates a need for the 'simmo' era gimp wing allowing Chesser, Johnsonn, Maric to move more freely.

Look at the best midfeilds and they have flexibility and options.




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[Elite Pete]

Pick 10 plus a 2nd rounder from the Hawks would be better

Might not be pick 10 by end of September.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Nah we take Draper this year.
Next year take Cody Curtin
2026 we take Daniel Curtin in a trade from Adelaide using our future R2 2027

EFA

I don't see Curtin getting into their midfield and by 2026 comes around I think he will be sub 40 games. Adelaide can develop him as a Mid and move him as KPP if it doesn't workout.

Although Eagles should be speaking with his management every couple of months and 18 months from his contract ends get the deal done. We dont do this part well, and need to learn from Sydney, Geelong, Hawks, Collingwood of the world.

Is Sheeds foot/ankle issue bad enough that they will medically retire him this year?

This makes sense. Dom unfortunately is done and will only play WAFL from this point on.

 

[3agles87]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

Kicked a couple, involved in a couple more scoring opportunities and looks like a little pest in the forward half. Just what we need.

Thanks for your work.

 

[stallon]

hawks pick pick may be enough. I get that we don’t want to overpay but if we rate him whilst he is under contract, we may need to give that up. For a pick 23, or slightly higher, I’d keep him if I was crows.

Thats reality.

I wonder if a trade of pick 2 + Pies 2nd + our 2nd for 4 and Curtin would satisfy the Crows(assuming we trade Barrass to the Hawks for 10 + pies 2nd). Or even trad those 2 2nd rounders into the 1st round and use that.

Essentially still getting one of those mids under the blanket of a possible 1-5 selection and trading 2 2nd rounders for Curtin.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

VFL watch.

Carrol 24 2 tackles 3 clearances
Dev 36 7 tackles 12 clearances
Buss 20 8 marks
Jack MacRae 43 touches
Boyd woodcock 32 11 tackles


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[stallon]

Duggan has played his best games this year as an inside mid. His kicking is way too trash nowadays to be a half back flanker. Just let him play the role when we need it.

Also Yeo should be able to play that role. His attributes are actually best suited to that role.

We have far far greater needs than a defensive mid.

With Ginbey and Hough playing more aggressive down back id argue we could make Duggan play more accountable. Coles been playing higher up the ground too.

Put Duggan in a back pocket and he can be a leader of the backline alongside Gov, If we lose Barrass we lose some of that leadership back there.

Ginbey, Hough, HEdwards, plus a Johnston/Travaglia type with Gov and Duggan isnt a bad backline imo

 

[stallon]

As unscientific as it is, reading the comments on the board of the player’s existing club is a better way of getting an idea of their role and importance than the views of the receiving club’s supporters.

Overall they seem pretty happy that he’s leaving. Not Rotham leaving via FA happy, but happy all the same.

They expect theyre getting overs for him, band 2 or 3 compo. If it was only band 5 compo theyd probably be less excited about it.

 

[Obeanie1]

Is Sheeds foot/ankle issue bad enough that they will medically retire him this year?

Who knows?

Its posible. It wouldnt surprise.

 

[eaglevision]

They expect theyre getting overs for him, band 2 or 3 compo. If it was only band 5 compo theyd probably be less excited about it.

Don’t want either of them but if some numpty in charge insists we get them both then getting Graham to band 2 and paying less in draft capital for Baker is the way to do it.

Whilst I understand the list build strategy, I don’t like it all and especially not this year.

 

[Cuzz09]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

please don't let another good kid be nicked off us

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[Godfather32]

please don't let another good kid be nicked off us

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We can match a bid on him now though right?

 

[neng]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

Definite signs he’s above WAFL level of talent. Exciting. Rules have changed back at the right time for us.


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[1Bally1]

This performance is an example of how basic stats can be misleading. Malakai was super impactful in his second WAFL outing, prowling the ground level of the Subiaco forward line and causing chaos, often to the advantage of his team. He kicked a couple of goals, and could have contributed more if the territory battle hadn't been so significantly in Swan Districts favour which starved him of opportunities.

Get him on the team

 

[Elite Pete]

Hawks lose….. Can the weekend get any better? Plus Hogan kicked 5….. price just went up

 

[TerryFilk]

I’m still really high on Moraes if we split or get another first in or if we want to move up with our 2nd rounder

27 disposals and FIVE goals yesterday, he runs hard all day, is very outside but we also need outside class desperately. He reminds me a lot of someone like Rozee.

Smillie only had 10 touches, I’m unsure if he went off injured though?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Hawks lose….. Can the weekend get any better? Plus Hogan kicked 5….. price just went up

We just need St Blunders to announce that Battle has re-signed

 

[Hoskin300]

With Ginbey and Hough playing more aggressive down back id argue we could make Duggan play more accountable. Coles been playing higher up the ground too.

Put Duggan in a back pocket and he can be a leader of the backline alongside Gov, If we lose Barrass we lose some of that leadership back there.

Ginbey, Hough, HEdwards, plus a Johnston/Travaglia type with Gov and Duggan isnt a bad backline imo

Hough has shown his best position is lock down small defender. Ginbey will be third tall defender. The rest have to be elite rebounders which Duggan is not.

Why are we bending over backwards to fit graham into the team hahaha. Just play Duggan as defensive mid if that’s what we want. It’s the perfect way to hide his deficiencies.

 

[Elite Pete]

We just need St Blunders to announce that Battle has re-signed

Yeah would be ideal but positive thinking with this. Might be useful if they fall in love with someone at pick 2/3 and our draft board has our target at 5.

2 + 10
For
5 + 6 (Trainor + Reid/Langford ect)