List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
  29

  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I'd like to see JD get to 300.

If he can contribute like last Friday he's valuable



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I think JD is more valuable to us than what any other club can offer even if that’s playing the majority of the year in the 2s.

 

[Obeanie1]

So based on media reports across various platforms -

WCE players linked to opposition clubs :
• Liam Ryan
• Jake Waterman
• Jack Darling
• Tom Barrass
• Harry Edwards

Opposition players linked to WCE :
• Tom Clurey
• Liam Baker
• Jack Graham
• Tim English
• Riley Garcia

Might have missed some but these are who I recall off the top of my head

Who is Darling linked to?

Melbourne?

I could see him leaving for a longer contract to squeeze out a final year or two.

 

[Obeanie1]

I realise context is everything but man this looks depressing when you put it like that

Jack Carroll is another

Why is it depressing?

 

[the harry]

Who is Darling linked to?

Melbourne?

I could see him leaving for a longer contract to squeeze out a final year or two.

Melbourne should absolutely go for him. One more chance with Gawn still going well. Darling would fit so well with them for one more crack.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If Freo interested to unlock Bolton, the following might work

Eagles
Out 3 23 Ryan
In 9 12 14 Knobel Baker Graham (as FA trigger band 3 ie pick 22 generated)

Freo
Out 9 12 14 Knobel
In Bolton Ryan 41 54

Tigers
Out Bolton Baker Graham 41 54
In 3 22 23

Eagles and Hawks
10 and F3 for Barrass

We go to the draft with 9 10 12 14 late pick for Champion having nabbed F3 with Hawks plus adding Knobel Baker Graham (and possibly English)

Depends on English - Williams is a possible trade option.
Crows might want to use R4 for Rotham to preserve their FA compo if lose Walker and Himmelburg.
I would be open to offers for Petch

WTF is that

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I realise context is everything but man this looks depressing when you put it like that

Jack Carroll is another

It will get worse before it gets better...

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

If Freo interested to unlock Bolton, the following might work

Eagles
Out 3 23 Ryan
In 9 12 14 Knobel Baker Graham (as FA trigger band 3 ie pick 22 generated)

Freo
Out 9 12 14 Knobel
In Bolton Ryan 41 54

Tigers
Out Bolton Baker Graham 41 54
In 3 22 23

Eagles and Hawks
10 and F3 for Barrass

We go to the draft with 9 10 12 14 late pick for Champion having nabbed F3 with Hawks plus adding Knobel Baker Graham (and possibly English)

Depends on English - Williams is a possible trade option.
Crows might want to use R4 for Rotham to preserve their FA compo if lose Walker and Himmelburg.
I would be open to offers for Petch

 

[Obeanie1]

WTF is that

It's a mega trade.

Duh.

 

[Obeanie1]

If Freo interested to unlock Bolton, the following might work

Eagles
Out 3 23 Ryan
In 9 12 14 Knobel Baker Graham (as FA trigger band 3 ie pick 22 generated)

Freo
Out 9 12 14 Knobel
In Bolton Ryan 41 54

Tigers
Out Bolton Baker Graham 41 54
In 3 22 23

Eagles and Hawks
10 and F3 for Barrass

We go to the draft with 9 10 12 14 late pick for Champion having nabbed F3 with Hawks plus adding Knobel Baker Graham (and possibly English)

Depends on English - Williams is a possible trade option.
Crows might want to use R4 for Rotham to preserve their FA compo if lose Walker and Himmelburg.
I would be open to offers for Petch

Well that mega trade period would certainly spin the wheels.

4 1sts in this draft would be list defining. Comments about the best draftee maybe come from later picks it's that even.

Lalor
Travagalia
Bo Allen
Moreas or a tall

Plus Champion

Baker and Graham.

English still a long shot.

 

[Obeanie1]

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Why?

It's a pretty massive draft hand.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Why?

It's a pretty massive draft hand.

We lose ryan and the chance to draft one of FOS or draiper and help both Richmond and Freo .

All for 3 teen picks and and 3 player 2 of which are probably not best 22 in a decent side

The barrass trade is fine 10 and a F3 is about right

 

[Obeanie1]

So Lukosius may be on the move and Crows want to retain their picks this draft.

Eagles F 1st

For Curtin and Crows F2nd?

Crows send our F1st to Suns.

And I don't agree that Curtin is a bust like some knee jerk opinions posted here recently. We were keen for a reason. So was Clarkson. And the Crows knocked back our offer for a reason.

He picked up a knee grumble early in the season and the Crows have been in damage control all season so playing the kids hasn't been high on the coaches agenda.

 

[Obeanie1]

We lose ryan and the chance to draft one of FOS or draiper and help both Richmond and Freo .

All for 3 teen picks and and 3 player 2 of which are probably not best 22 in a decent side

The barrass trade is fine 10 and a F3 is about right

Which players are probably not best 22?

That's just a throw away line when you don't have an argument.

 

[eaglevision]

So Lukosius may be on the move and Crows want to retain their picks this draft.

Eagles F 1st

For Curtin and Crows F2nd?

Crows send our F1st to Suns.

And I don't agree that Curtin is a bust like some knee jerk opinions posted here recently. We were keen for a reason. So was Clarkson. And the Crows knocked back our offer for a reason.

He picked up a knee grumble early in the season and the Crows have been in damage control all season so playing the kids hasn't been high on the coaches agenda.

I agree that Curtin cops a bit of undue heat on here but likely top 3 pick for Curtin and a mid 20s pick at best is not a good deal.

 

[random260]

So Lukosius may be on the move and Crows want to retain their picks this draft.

Eagles F 1st

For Curtin and Crows F2nd?

Crows send our F1st to Suns.

And I don't agree that Curtin is a bust like some knee jerk opinions posted here recently. We were keen for a reason. So was Clarkson. And the Crows knocked back our offer for a reason.

He picked up a knee grumble early in the season and the Crows have been in damage control all season so playing the kids hasn't been high on the coaches agenda.

No.if you want Curtin then get smillie Christ let it go.

How would you rate Curtin if he had the same year next year? I bet you would still give the same amount.

No offence we would not develop Curtin any differently. We are worse developer of talent.

Let Curtin go!!

 

[shooshka]

I think JD is more valuable to us than what any other club can offer even if that’s playing the majority of the year in the 2s.

I agree - however I think it is also fair to say 2025 is his last year of AFL if he stays.

Others may offer him 2 or possibly 3 years. He knows the lay of the land at WC and the list build being a priority.

So no hard feelings if he chooses to go and get more certainty of a longer career. Not going to be a huge return (pick around 40 would probably be a decent result for us and tbf a bargain for the other team).

Or he can stay and play his 300th game for the club next year and get a champions send off like Gaff.


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[Get_The_Gaff]

Well that mega trade period would certainly spin the wheels.

4 1sts in this draft would be list defining. Comments about the best draftee maybe come from later picks it's that even.

Lalor
Travagalia
Bo Allen
Moreas or a tall

Plus Champion

Baker and Graham.

English still a long shot.

Lalor and Travaglia will both be gone before pick 10 maybe even earlier

Travaglia to be the bont/Oliver late riser going top 5 .

I would rather pick Fos/Draiper at 3 then a polished balanced mid with barrass compo if we get it . I like the look of xavier Lindsay.

Bo Allen for mine is very much like Ginbey . A HBF who they used as a mid at U18s level because of his size but its not his natural role and he doesn't rack it up on ball .

Do we need another HBF ?

I have a feeling chesser will move back too

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I think JD is more valuable to us than what any other club can offer even if that’s playing the majority of the year in the 2s.

100% would love darling to want to stay . We get him to 300 games and he mentors our young group of key forward .

Any late pick we get for darling would get eaten up by malakai compo .

 

[CountryLad]

Travaglia will be a very Ross Lyon type of pick. He loves players that can run.

 

[shooshka]

So based on media reports across various platforms -

WCE players linked to opposition clubs :
• Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

• Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

• Jack Darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

• Tom Barrass

37

Tom Barrass

Age

28

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

• Harry Edwards

Opposition players linked to WCE :
• Tom Clurey

17

Tom Clurey

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

156.0

2star

D

10.9

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

156.0

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

6.0

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

• Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

• Jack Graham

34

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

• Tim English
• Riley Garcia

Might have missed some but these are who I recall off the top of my head

Waterman sounding like an extension is agreed in principle thankfully.

Edwards - hoping it is as simple as him or Barrass goes, and obviously he gets more $ than signing now (more with us if TB leaves, more by leaving if TB stays). I think TB goes so Edwards stays.

Ryan/Darling - provided a fair trade is able to be negotiated then it probably makes sense for all to get it done. Let them chase further premierships and turn over parts of our list who won’t be here when we are next contending.


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[Get_The_Gaff]

Which players are probably not best 22?

That's just a throw away line when you don't have an argument.

Knobel and Graham would not be best 22 in a decent team .

It is an opinion but a good one i believe

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

It's a mega trade.

Duh.

They happen ALLL the time of course. And of course we need another ruck in that mega trade cos why not

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Travaglia will be a very Ross Lyon type of pick. He loves players that can run.

Ha ! That's who Travaglia reminds of .

Brendan Goddard ! Its the long flailing limbs and pasty white skin

 

[Obeanie1]

Lalor and Travaglia will both be gone before pick 10 maybe even earlier

Travaglia to be the bont/Oliver late riser going top 5 .

I would rather pick Fos/Draiper at 3 then a polished balanced mid with barrass compo if we get it . I like the look of xavier Lindsay.

Bo Allen for mine is very much like Ginbey . A HBF who they used as a mid at U18s level because of his size but its not his natural role and he doesn't rack it up on ball .

Do we need another HBF ?

I have a feeling chesser will move back too

4 live picks between 10 and 16 is a big haul.

Likely one of Lalor or Travaglia will still be there. If not there are several similar types.

Langford
Lindsay
Berry
M Reid
O'Farrell
Whitlock for a tall defender
Moraes for a wing

 

[Obeanie1]

They happen ALLL the time of course. And of course we need another ruck in that mega trade cos why not

So you are happy with our rucks are you.

Nothing to improve on there?